Leo AI is here!!

[Inliytened1]

7 hours ago, Something Funny said:

You do realise that just because it acts confident and knowledgeable, doesn't mean that it actually understands anything, right? It just regurgitates whatever it information it got from the content it was fed.

 

Yes but that doesn't mean it couldn't be just as effective as Leo himself teaching if what's coming out is the same if not articulated even better.

Edited October 16 by Inliytened1

[Dodo]

11 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yes but that doesn't mean it couldn't be just as effective as Leo himself teaching if what's coming out is the same if not articulated even better.

But Leos words are not just words, there is soul behind them. This thing is just a language model, no spiritual power. 

[Inliytened1]

@Dodo If you think deeper about it you will realize he's always been pixels on the screen to you.   So you're giving him that power because he's a biological entity.  If we put a face behind AI and you were told it was a biological entity would you know any better.   Maybe depending on how good AI gets.  But it's getting to the point where you can't tell the difference.   So then if you were fooled into thinking it was a biological entity with a "soul"  it would be identical to Leo. 

Edited October 16 by Inliytened1

[Dodo]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Dodo If you think deeper about it you will realize he's always been pixels on the screen to you.  

I've spoken with him in my dreams too, and Eckhart Tolle and Rupert Spira too! 

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Dodo said:

I've spoken with him in my dreams too, and Eckhart Tolle and Rupert Spira too! 

That's because they're you.  

[Dodo]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

That's because they're you.  

I dont agree with that! Im not a solipsist, I am a nonipsist, as in, they are not me, there is no me hehe. But we were talking about relative experience now, I just wanted to say I havent just experienced Leo as pixels. 

But even if I experienced Leo only as pixels, that doesn't make his words lacking of soul. Words written by conscious being far more powerful than words written by a language model that isn't aware. 

Edited October 16 by Dodo

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Dodo said:

I dont agree with that! Im not a solipsist, I am a nonipsist, as in, they are not me, there is no me hehe. But we were talking about relative experience now, I just wanted to say I havent just experienced Leo as pixels. 

But even if I experienced Leo only as pixels, that doesn't make his words lacking of soul. Words written by conscious being far more powerful than words written by a language model that isn't aware. 

That's fine I'm not anything (solipsist, etc.  I dont like classifications).

I've just become conscious that it is One Consciousness.   This is it.  There aren't separate conscious beings.  That is an illusion.   

[Dodo]

10 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

That's fine I'm not anything (solipsist, etc.  I dont like classifications).

I've just become conscious that it is One Consciousness.   This is it.  There aren't separate conscious beings.  That is an illusion.   

They are separate conscious beings in my worldview. Separate autonomous entities. One root many apples.

I am not a bee, I can't do bee things. If I had to know what every animal and human does or thinks I would go insane. Separation in this case is something good. Leo knows what Leo does, Leo knows what Leo thinks. I don't know what Leo does or thinks, only if he shares! I also don't know you same way.

I know that you experience being the same as me, sure, I know you are aware, I would detect if you were a bot. But your thoughts, feelings, sensations, emotions, they are all private to you, how it should be. 

Edited October 16 by Dodo

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, Dodo said:

They are separate conscious beings in my worldview. Separate autonomous entities. One root many apples.

I am not a bee, I can't do bee things. If I had to know what every animal and human does or thinks I would go insane. Separation in this case is something good. 

Sorry but I'm going to the dream analogy because it's so accurate.  Yes of course, within the dream you can have all kinds of things.  AI, conscious beings, etc.  But if you zoom out to the structure of the dream itself then you can see that ultimately there is no separation.  And you can spot this when you really sit down and contemplate things deeply.  Like I said about Leo..he's just pixels.  Do you have any scientific proof that he has a soul or is conscious or is that just something you've assumed based on your worldview and how things appear.  

Edited October 16 by Inliytened1

[Dodo]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Sorry but I'm going to the dream analogy because it's so accurate.  Yes of course, within the dream you can have all kinds of things.  AI, conscious beings, etc.  But if you zoom out to the structure of the dream itself then you can see that ultimately there is no separation.  And you can spot this when you really sit down and contemplate things deeply.  Like I said about Leo..he's just pixels.  Do you have any scientific proof that he has a soul or is conscious or is that just something you've assumed based on your worldview and how things appear.  

I have spoken with him, soul is not about science, now you are reaching a bit! Hehe. I'm not only talking about Leo, every user on this forum has a soul, every user on this forum is conscious. Beyond clear, it's self evident. I can spot bots, I am really good at spotting soulless language model, no matter how good it is. Turing test stuff 

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Dodo said:

I have spoken with him, soul is not about science, now you are reaching a bit! Hehe. I'm not only talking about Leo, every user on this forum has a soul, every user on this forum is conscious. Beyond clear, it's self evident. I can spot bots, I am really good at spotting soulless language model, no matter how good it is. Turing test stuff 

But your worldview is that there is an objective reality thus the soul should be something tangible.   But where is it? What is it?  What I found and this is what ultimately led to my awakening, was that the soul is a thought.   It doesn't exist anywhere.  

[Keryo Koffa]

22 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Like I said about Leo..he's just pixels

• Beige: "He's a relationship"
• Purple: "He's an archetype"
• Red: "He's my competition"
• Blue: "He's an identity structure"
• Orange: "He's a bunch of photons"
• Green: "He's a vast idea complex"
• Yellow: "He's a multi-dimensional holon"
• Turquoise: "He's an expression of infinity"
• Coral: *deleted not to trigger Sincerity*

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

• Beige: "He's a relationship"
• Purple: "He's an archetype"
• Red: "He's my competition"
• Blue: "He's an identity structure"
• Orange: "He's a bunch of photons"
• Green: "He's a vast idea complex"
• Yellow: "He's a multi-dimensional holon"
• Turquoise: "He's an expression of infinity"
• Coral: *deleted not to trigger Sincerity*

Hahahaha...classic man.  

Come on give us coral !

Then give is what's beyond Coral!

 

Edited October 16 by Inliytened1

[Something Funny]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yes but that doesn't mean it couldn't be just as effective as Leo himself teaching if what's coming out is the same if not articulated even better.

I highly doubt its capacity to give good advise.

There is another issue of turning actualized.org into a circlejerk.

And of course the fact that it's unethical.

But you do you, I guess.

[Keryo Koffa]

13 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Hahahaha...classic man.  

Come on give us coral !

Then give is what's beyond Coral!

Coral: "He's a `̴̪̜̯̮́͗͑͝`̷̡̤̖̝͍͙͈͇̓̊̃́͠`̸̧̤̫̠͎͎̈́`̷̟̗͔̜̲̘͑̔`̸̡͔̆͊͒̄͋͊͜`̷̢̧̗̜͍̜̊͗̎̀̆̏̏͠`̴̡̞̻̦̬̥̣̀̈̿̌̃̿̉`̵̛̟͍͖͍̥̝̗̃̆́̓͜`̷̨̬̤̝̫̒͜ͅ`̶̢̛̠̲̖̲͐̉̓͐͝͝`̸̧̢̱̮̤͈͕͉̰̓̓̂̓́͘͝͝`̷̳̘͛̄̿`̵̡̧̡̦͕͌͘`̵̛̜̯̬̤̰̜̐̈́̌̃͆̕ͅ`̶̞̀͒̈́̚͝`̸̨͖̮̞̩̆̽`̴̨̨̛͎͎̤͎̿͂̈́͆̇  "

Iridescent: "He's a 🐊"

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Coral: "He's a `̴̪̜̯̮́͗͑͝`̷̡̤̖̝͍͙͈͇̓̊̃́͠`̸̧̤̫̠͎͎̈́`̷̟̗͔̜̲̘͑̔`̸̡͔̆͊͒̄͋͊͜`̷̢̧̗̜͍̜̊͗̎̀̆̏̏͠`̴̡̞̻̦̬̥̣̀̈̿̌̃̿̉`̵̛̟͍͖͍̥̝̗̃̆́̓͜`̷̨̬̤̝̫̒͜ͅ`̶̢̛̠̲̖̲͐̉̓͐͝͝`̸̧̢̱̮̤͈͕͉̰̓̓̂̓́͘͝͝`̷̳̘͛̄̿`̵̡̧̡̦͕͌͘`̵̛̜̯̬̤̰̜̐̈́̌̃͆̕ͅ`̶̞̀͒̈́̚͝`̸̨͖̮̞̩̆̽`̴̨̨̛͎͎̤͎̿͂̈́͆̇  "

Iridescent: "He's a 🐊"

They just stop speaking at higher levels

 

[Keryo Koffa]

22 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

They just stop speaking at higher levels

Hehe, telepathy sure is way more convenient! 😁

But let me try: "soul, entity, thought-form, psychic structure, ocean in a drop, frequency strand, morphic amness, all simultaneously"

Edited October 16 by Keryo Koffa

[Dodo]

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

But your worldview is that there is an objective reality thus the soul should be something tangible.   But where is it? What is it?  What I found and this is what ultimately led to my awakening, was that the soul is a thought.   It doesn't exist anywhere.  

Ok, maybe soul is a bad word to use, lets say life force instead of loaded word like soul. Because i don't have an image of what soul is. By soul I mean the animating [self] aware presence. That which knows being/isness. 

That which knows waking and that which knows dream, that which knows illusion/non-illusion, that which knows form, it itself has no form. That which is beyond doubt real, even within actual dream at night that you know full well is not real, the soul/aware presence that knows the dream is absolutely real, I know its real, because it is me lol. 

Edited October 16 by Dodo

[Dodo]

@Inliytened1

Only AI with soul  because the words are written by the rap god