Leo AI is here!!

[Keryo Koffa]

16 minutes ago, Butters said:

Did you really just say this? Really? 

"He did not..." "Yes, he did!"

[Davino]

1 hour ago, Butters said:

Did you really just say this? Really? 

I respect Leo too much not to tell him a crude truth I believe he's not seeing

[Something Funny]

This is so dumb, lol.

What's even the point? To get short concept summaries that might not even represent the meaning accurately?

How will it help you to understand the topic deeper? The whole idea is that you watch a 3 hour long video, sometimes multiple times, let it soak in, contemplate it, and then integrate it into your life.

Getting a list with bullet points on spiral dynamics will not help you to understand them better. Especially since, as I said before, what AI will say, might not accurately represent what Leo has said / would have said.

Edited October 15 by Something Funny

[Exystem]

29 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

How will it help you to understand the topic deeper? The whole idea is that you watch a 3 hour long video, sometimes multiple times, let it soak in, contemplate it, and then integrate it into your life.

 

You are right. But when it comes to contemplate about your own life, implement the insights and really think about the stuff in depth, it is quite nice to be able to interact with an AI like it is a coach, someone who asks you the right questions back, attacks your reasoning and points out holes, inspires you which concrete steps you can take to embody it, and so on.

You have to learn to interact with the AI in the smartest way possible to extract the full value. It is a skill of its own and maybe it soon will become the most valuable skill world wide to interact with AIs in the most intelligent/wise way. Most people will use AI to replace the effort of original thinking, like people stopped caring about basic math as much since the development of the calculator. But some people will use it to boost their intelligence and originality

[Something Funny]

11 minutes ago, Exystem said:

You are right. But when it comes to contemplate about your own life, implement the insights and really think about the stuff in depth, it is quite nice to be able to interact with an AI like it is a coach, someone who asks you the right questions back, attacks your reasoning and points out holes, inspires you which concrete steps you can take to embody it, and so on.

You can do all that with regular chatgpt / claude / whatever. There is nothing special about "Leo AI". It won't magically develop more advanced thinking skills, just because it was fed Leo's videos exclusively. At best, it's just an AI re-skin for those who want AI to sound like Leo.

11 minutes ago, Exystem said:

You have to learn to interact with the AI in the smartest way possible to extract the full value. It is a skill of its own and maybe it soon will become the most valuable skill world wide to interact with AIs in the most intelligent/wise way.

I think that's stretching it, but I am not here to have an AI debate.

Edited October 15 by Something Funny

[r0ckyreed]

How in God’s earth did you make this kind of AI? This is absolutely amazing and terrifying!

[Exystem]

17 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

You can do all that with regular chatgpt / claude / whatever. There is nothing special about "Leo AI". It won't magically develop more advanced thinking skills, just because it was fed Leo's videos exclusively. At best, it's just an AI re-skin for those who want AI to sound like Leo.

True. But in certain terrains of thought it narrows the branches of the possibility-tree of all the answers which have not a high value in tackling specific personal development or philosophical questions. The classic AI may tell you way more irrelevant and obvious stuff and not be so confronting. I had the feeling this leo AI was way more on point but that impression may come from my little interactive exposure to AI in recent times, maybe it just generally improved.

[Inliytened1]

2 hours ago, Something Funny said:

You can do all that with regular chatgpt / claude / whatever. There is nothing special about "Leo AI". It won't magically develop more advanced thinking skills, just because it was fed Leo's videos exclusively. At best, it's just an AI re-skin for those who want AI to sound like Leo.

I think that's stretching it, but I am not here to have an AI debate.

3 hours ago, Something Funny said:

This is so dumb, lol.

What's even the point? To get short concept summaries that might not even represent the meaning accurately?

How will it help you to understand the topic deeper? The whole idea is that you watch a 3 hour long video, sometimes multiple times, let it soak in, contemplate it, and then integrate it into your life.

Getting a list with bullet points on spiral dynamics will not help you to understand them better. Especially since, as I said before, what AI will say, might not accurately represent what Leo has said / would have said.

No these answers were different.  The normal one wouldn't answer the questions the way this one did because I've played around with them.  It acted a lot more confident and knowledgeable about awakening.

It can be a quite useful teaching tool but would need to be samctioned by Leo which it obviously isn't. 

Edited October 16 by Inliytened1

[Inliytened1]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I have no interest in turning my work into a mechanical meat-grinder.

If that's what it becomes, I will just quit.

Well they kinda wouldn't need you anyway at that point.  Its getting to that point.   I'm sure if I asked it, it will still preface that direct experience is still king in its eyes.

Someone should ask it about alien Consciousness next but I'm not sure if it's that evolved

 

Edited October 16 by Inliytened1

[Princess Arabia]

6 hours ago, Butters said:

Did you really just say this? Really? 

What's the difference with saying what he said to Leo in a respectable manner out of love and somebody degrading someone on the forum and being crude. Would you say to them the same thing. Probably not. I haven't seen anyone saying to me or anyone when we're being disrespectful "did you really say that, really? Except for being punished. How great society would be if being disrespectful and cruel to anyone would get the same response.

Edited October 16 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, Davino said:

I respect Leo too much not to tell him a crude truth I believe he's not seeing

And I respect you for not shying away and being patronizing. It was a normal comment said in a respectable tone and doesn't really warranty a surprise reaction. Coming from you, it has an air of concern for the outcome of Actualized whether agreed with or not. 

[krockerman]

8 hours ago, Something Funny said:

You can do all that with regular chatgpt / claude / whatever. There is nothing special about "Leo AI". It won't magically develop more advanced thinking skills, just because it was fed Leo's videos exclusively. At best, it's just an AI re-skin for those who want AI to sound like Leo.

I think that's stretching it, but I am not here to have an AI debate.

Why do you think GPT store exist?

The idea that an AI won't "magically develop more advanced thinking skills" based on specific input (Leo's videos in this case) overlooks the concept of domain-specific expertise. An bot trained on particular datasets or ideas can better tailor responses based on those inputs. For instance, an AI trained on psychological counseling techniques may offer more nuanced support in therapy-related discussions compared to a general AI. In a similar vein, an AI fed Leo's content would likely offer advice that reflects Leo's specific thinking patterns, worldviews, and insights, potentially giving more personalized or aligned guidance for the people here. Even if it's only used for his Pratical stuff

Consider how AI models are used in fields like medicine or law. A general-purpose AI might give generic advice on medical topics, but an AI trained on specialized medical data (such as specific treatment guidelines or peer-reviewed studies) would offer far more accurate and useful responses. The same logic applies to my bot

it could offer more tailord insights and solutions aligned with Leo’s teachings than a more general AI.

 

 

 

Edited October 16 by krockerman

[krockerman]

9 hours ago, Something Funny said:

This is so dumb, lol.

What's even the point? To get short concept summaries that might not even represent the meaning accurately?

How will it help you to understand the topic deeper? The whole idea is that you watch a 3 hour long video, sometimes multiple times, let it soak in, contemplate it, and then integrate it into your life.

Getting a list with bullet points on spiral dynamics will not help you to understand them better. Especially since, as I said before, what AI will say, might not accurately represent what Leo has said / would have said.

Yeah you should still watch the original video. 

However the can be still use it to:

-Enhance understanding through clarification

-Provide personalized learning suggestions

-Act as a reflection partner

-Help with retention through quizzes

-Give real-time feedback on understanding

-Summarize key points for quick review

-Suggest deeper exploration of topics

-Track learning progress

-Offer actionable steps for real-life application

[Something Funny]

11 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

No these answers were different.  The normal one wouldn't answer the questions the way this one did because I've played around with them.  It acted a lot more confident and knowledgeable about awakening.

 

You do realise that just because it acts confident and knowledgeable, doesn't mean that it actually understands anything, right? It just regurgitates whatever it information it got from the content it was fed.

11 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Someone should ask it about alien Consciousness next but I'm not sure if it's that evolved

 

This point of "maybe we shouldn't tell Ai about alien consciousness / metaphysics/psychedelics/etc., because it is not evolved enough" that many of you keep mentioning is so hilarious to me. You are acting as if it would need some advanced reasoning skills to grasp those topics.

IT IS NOT GRASPING ANYTHING.

It is a language model. It just copies words. Alien consciousness is not somehow more linguistically challenging for AI to talk about (the only argument you could make is that Leo just didn't talk about it enough for AI to have enough data to work with). 

IT IS NOT THINKING

It just predicts what the next word in a sentence should be based on the data it has analysed so far.

If anything, the greatest strength of AI is the vastness of information that it was fed. The amount of data that humans couldn't possibly study in their lifetime. This is what makes it so useful.

[krockerman]

7 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

You do realise that just because it acts confident and knowledgeable, doesn't mean that it actually understands anything, right? It just regurgitates whatever it information it got from the content it was fed.

This point of "maybe we shouldn't tell Ai about alien consciousness / metaphysics/psychedelics/etc., because it is not evolved enough" that many of you keep mentioning is so hilarious to me. You are acting as if it would need some advanced reasoning skills to grasp those topics.

IT IS NOT GRASPING ANYTHING.

It is a language model. It just copies words. Alien consciousness is not somehow more linguistically challenging for AI to talk about (the only argument you could make is that Leo just didn't talk about it enough for AI to have enough data to work with). 

IT IS NOT THINKING

It just predicts what the next word in a sentence should be based on the data it has analysed so far.

If anything, the greatest strength of AI is the vastness of information that it was fed. The amount of data that humans couldn't possibly study in their lifetime. This is what makes it so useful.

Well have you seen heard of chatgpt o1? it's soon gonna be out and we already have a preview

[Something Funny]

5 hours ago, krockerman said:

Why do you think GPT store exist?

The idea that an AI won't "magically develop more advanced thinking skills" based on specific input (Leo's videos in this case) overlooks the concept of domain-specific expertise. An bot trained on particular datasets or ideas can better tailor responses based on those inputs. For instance, an AI trained on psychological counseling techniques may offer more nuanced support in therapy-related discussions compared to a general AI. In a similar vein, an AI fed Leo's content would likely offer advice that reflects Leo's specific thinking patterns, worldviews, and insights, potentially giving more personalized or aligned guidance for the people here. Even if it's only used for his Pratical stuff.

What I am questioning, is that just because's it has Leo's flavour added to it doesn't mean that the response itself will be of a better quality.

5 hours ago, krockerman said:

Consider how AI models are used in fields like medicine or law. A general-purpose AI might give generic advice on medical topics, but an AI trained on specialized medical data (such as specific treatment guidelines or peer-reviewed studies) would offer far more accurate and useful responses. The same logic applies to my bot

 

It could work well for medicine and law because there it just needs to tell you specific facts. Like: "Hi ChatGPT, can you please find me case law on public masturbation". I don't see how this is helpful for actualized.org since this work is more about developing intuitive understanding of the topic.

This is how I see it

5 hours ago, krockerman said:

-Enhance understanding through clarification: not sure about usefulness and the quality of the response

-Provide personalized learning suggestions: regular AI can do that, plus Leo usually covers this stuff in the video itself

-Act as a reflection partner: regular AI can do that + you can do that with a journal

-Help with retention through quizzes: redundant, this is not a uni where you need to prepare for a test

-Give real-time feedback on understanding: not sure about the quality of the response and how it would measure understanding. Once again, this is not a university course.

-Summarise key points for quick review: sure, wouldn't be particularly useful for me personally, but sure. In my opinion, the biggest dowside compared to taking your own notes, is that you trust AI to make a good summary. When you take your own notes, you know that you are writing down stuff that you, personally, find important and useful.

-Suggest deeper exploration of topics: see personalised learning suggestions

-Track learning progress: redundant in the context of actualized.org, the same as quizzes and feedback on understanding

-Offer actionable steps for real-life application: Leo suggests action steps in his videos + you are supposed to figure this out on your own. But I guess this kind goes under the same category as summarising main points

 

[Something Funny]

@krockerman do you know how it actually works? The core principles are still the same, it just prompts itself multiple times in a row to get a more refined answer.

[Something Funny]

@krockerman I guess, arguing about it too much is useless. Let results speak for themselves. 

[Dodo]

On 14/10/2024 at 11:03 PM, Exystem said:

@krockerman That would be great, I would really appreciate it!!! I was chatting with it and was quite impressed by its accuracy and it passed the vibe check

Let's give it a boost, hope you guys like it as much as I do:

Join the petition for Leo bot 10.000

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Ai is garbage tho, its not even aware wtf. A toad is gonna do a better Leo than an AI

Edited October 16 by Dodo

[Keryo Koffa]

3 minutes ago, Dodo said:

Ai is garbage tho, its not even aware wtf. A toad is gonna do a better Leo than an AI

Fine, Toad Leo it is, who's going to grab it?