2024 Election Discussion General

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, DocWatts said:

America chose, and it chose to reject democracy in favor of a vengeful dictator. This is reflective of a broader shift in American culture towards conspiracism and hate.

It's been extremely disappointing that this shift has been reflected in what's supposed to be a Conscious Politics forum as well - as evidenced by the number of people here who are eager to downplay and excuse Trump's monstrous behavior.

This will be my last post in this section of the Forums. The quality of the discourse here has started to be more reflective of a YouTube comments page rather than people who are serious about discussing politics in a mature way.

Absolutely disgusted with my country, and the number of people here, on this Forum, who have been enabled America's shift towards fascism.

How anyone here can have watched Leo's content on epistemology and conscious politics, and come away thinking 'yup, Trump's out guy's is mind boggling.

Are you trying to make people who have a different opinion than you somehow guilty? Lol. Don't be ridiculous. Nobody cares about your tantrums. 

Most you could achieve like that is gather like minded people and whine together in your little private corner while giving each other validation of how right you are and how wrong others are. (because fragile egos need lots of validation you know) 

Edited 21 minutes ago by Salvijus

[BlackPhil]

49 minutes ago, DocWatts said:

America chose, and it chose to reject democracy in favor of a vengeful dictator. This is reflective of a broader shift in American culture towards conspiracism and hate.

It's been extremely disappointing that this shift has been reflected in what's supposed to be a Conscious Politics forum as well - as evidenced by the number of people here who are eager to downplay and excuse Trump's monstrous behavior.

This will be my last post in this section of the Forums. The quality of the discourse here has started to be more reflective of a YouTube comments page rather than a forum for people who are serious about discussing politics in a mature way.

Absolutely disgusted with my country, and the number of people here, on this Forum, who have been enabled America's shift towards fascism.

How anyone here can have watched Leo's content on epistemology and conscious politics, and come away thinking 'yup, Trump is our guy!' is mind boggling.

49 minutes ago, DocWatts said:

 

I think you need to learn the difference between democracy and liberalism. What just happened was literally democracy in action: people voted and got what the majority wanted. Did Trump become a fascist dictator last time he was president? No. Will he now? No, I doubt it.

The rest of your post shines the light on a big problem. You dont want to talk to people with other opinions than your own. That creates echo-chambers and disconnects you from reality. That's what happened this election and that's why so many on the left are surprised by the results.

If you want to actually change politics and peoples minds you need to instead focus on discussing with people of a different opinion, reaching the other side. Not just call them fascist and block them out. People doing just that is one of the bigger reasons Trump won.

That elitist (and actually fascist) behaviour of thinking you are of a "higher consciousness" and people of "lower stages" are not even worth talking to is simply pride in it's purest form. And pride comes before fall.

 

Edited just now by BlackPhil