2024 Election Discussion General

[Raze]

2 minutes ago, Ulax said:

Is it that bad of a message?

I mean this is trump we are talking about. The dude has a laundry list of things that should veto him from presidency. Pretty reasonable campaign strategy to try and focus on not voting for him to be in office.

Yes because people want a reason to vote for someone. It looks like trump didn’t get much more votes than he did in 2020, Kamala just got way less than Biden did, no one is animated by your message being “I will do as I please even if you don’t like it, but you have to pick me because the other guy is evil so ha!”. You cannot blackmail voters.

Edited 15 hours ago by Raze

[Bobby_2021]

Calling Trump a criminal or a rapist isn't going to help. People are okay and would even prefer a brutal leader. Most people know intuitively that survival requires that you do brutal stuff.

Trump is strong dark triad.

To counter him you need strong light triad.

Dems are too weak for that shit. So they half assed it and stuck with weak ass half triad.

[Talinn]

Stop blaming Democrats for heavens sake. 

 

[Raze]

1 minute ago, Raze said:

So even I’m surprised how much men went towards trump, and it looks like women didn’t go for a Kamala in nearly the numbers they expected.

The democrats need to stop their feminist messaging and criticism / ignoring of men. It doesn’t help get women and it alienated men.

I know Dr Warren Farrell and Richard Reeves implored them to take a stand on mens issues and got ignored, I hope next time the learn their lesson but it will be tough as their primary base seems to have a lot of feminists.

Also worth noting it’s clear democrats are losing their advantage with minorities which they always banked on. 

[Sandroew]

Yo Trump won already ?

Im looking at 270towin.com the Dems have 234 votes vs 222 for the Republicans at the moment.

I was looking at the wrong map the whole time or what ? Im confusion

Edited 15 hours ago by Sandroew

[BlueOak]

Going to be a lot of unrest and violence.

Sadly closer to WW3 now as well. Europe and America will certainly split further.

On a personal level we have 4 years of nonsense conspiracy theories and just made-up fairytales to deal with in communication, which is what I hate the most. It filters into everything, even if I never turn on a computer again.

[Ulax]

4 minutes ago, Raze said:

Yes because people want a reason to vote for someone. It looks like trump didn’t get much more votes than he did in 2020, Kamala just got way less than Biden did, no one is animated by your message being “I will do as I please even if you don’t like it, but you have to pick me because the other guy is evil so ha!”. You cannot blackmail voters.

Yeah I guess you need a vision tbf 

[Talinn]

1 minute ago, Raze said:

Also worth noting it’s clear democrats are losing their advantage with minorities which they always banked on. 

A major problem is that Musk bought Twitter and turned it into a propaganda website, and there's so many uneducated people that only vote on the basis of 'male energy' whether consciously or not. Media literacy and historical knowledge is also really low meaning when people say " Trump will ruin everything" they get tired of it and want to just show us the middle finger...there's a big nihilistic undertone to this election that's deeply suppressed in most men most likely..

 

[Raze]

Just now, Talinn said:

A major problem is that Musk bought Twitter and turned it into a propaganda website, and there's so many uneducated people that only vote on the basis of 'male energy' whether consciously or not. Media literacy and historical knowledge is also really low meaning when people say " Trump will ruin everything" they get tired of it and want to just show us the middle finger...there's a big nihilistic undertone to this election that's deeply suppressed in most men most likely..

 

Minorities were trending right even prior to Elon buying Twitter 

[Talinn]

7 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Calling Trump a criminal or a rapist isn't going to help. People are okay and would even prefer a brutal leader. Most people know intuitively that survival requires that you do brutal stuff.

Trump is strong dark triad.

To counter him you need strong light triad.

Dems are too weak for that shit. So they half assed it and stuck with weak ass half triad.

Yeah the stuff about "joy" from Harris' campaign didn't end up checking the boxes for masculine energy...

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, UnbornTao said:

Kind of  a superficial impression, when you think about it. Her fake laugh, presentation or "vibe" vs an actual compulsive liar/child. She's worked for the senate, was a district attorney and a prosecutor vs a convicted criminal. Suggests drinking bleach to combat an airborne virus, spreads misinformation about groups eating pets, and so much more. But Kamala's laugh is so fake; I can't stand her. So instead of choosing the disagreeable, uncharismatic, but reasonably smart student of the class for president, choose the one with the lowest grade that gives off "strong" vibes and is more convincing.

My impression on this matter is quite superficial I agree. But seeing a person completely empty and fake is probably enough to not wanna vote for it. Nothing good can come from such people is my philosophy. Things can only get darker once you're so empty of values. Not that I'm a full Trump supporter either. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

33 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Spiritual Warfare Why are you happy he won?

Since more people will cling to their beliefs in fairy tales, it means that those outside of America who aren’t ignorant can manipulate them or their children as they grow up, potentially creating a new religion. Unfortunately, I can’t say what this religion entails because I would get warnings, but let’s just say it’s not something positive for those who believe in fairy tales.

[Gennadiy1981]

54 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Sincere question, I wonder how much of the results of this election were influenced by Harris’s race and gender.

You raise a good and probably not a very popular question but I have been reading already more than few blogs, people posted in rural America, and from what I can tell they are not so politically motivated because their talk involves a lot of mundane, nonsense stuff, but during this race and actually back with Hillary, many said they are not comfortable to see woman lead the country. I found that in many blogpost and independent opinion pieces. I am not saying it’s reality but I stumbled on quite few of them. From what I can tell they are not racist perse, on the same blogs they were ok with Obama but for some reason they were not ok with women to be in power. 
 

But again it’s rural and its people who says “life is a box of chocolate, you don’t know which one you will open”. Meaning people who are lazy to think and for who optics play a major role and who still stuck with traditional old fashioned mysoginist views.
 

[Average Actualizer]

10 minutes ago, Sandroew said:

Yo Trump won already ?

Im looking at 270towin.com the Dems have 234 votes vs 222 for the Republicans at the moment.

I was looking at the wrong map the whole time or what ? Im confusion

10 minutes ago, Sandroew said:

 

Trump won like 7 hours ago 🤣🤣🤣

[Nemra]

15 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Entirety of Kamala's campaign was "don't vote for Mr Hiter 2.0" 

She is right about him. Although it's not persuasive to say that as people don't know who Trump is.

[Bobby_2021]

9 minutes ago, Ulax said:

Is it that bad of a message?

I mean this is trump we are talking about. The dude has a laundry list of things that should veto him from presidency. Pretty reasonable campaign strategy to try and focus on not voting for him to be in office.

The problem is that the subtext communicates that she is a shitty candidate that doesn't have anything to offer.

Also while acknowledging that Trump has a significance chance of winning.

Why should I vote for you kamala?

"I am a little less shitty than Mr Hiter." 

No, what would you do if you get elected?

She should reply with all the goodies she is going to give people. Free healthcare free bullshit whatever. 

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, UnbornTao said:

Criminal 

vs

reasonably smart student of the class for president

You can only come to this conclusion by reading their status and what the internet says. But when you actually watch them speak in interviews the impression is very different. 

Edited 15 hours ago by Salvijus

[Bobby_2021]

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

Although it's not persuasive to say that as people don't know who Trump is.

I don't think you understand. People know who Trump is. They are electing a strong leader. They feel like they need a strong leader to stand up for themselves and make their enemies bend to their whims.

And how do democrats respond to that in all their arrogance?

By sending a woman. And as if they didn't learn the lesson, they send another woman of colour.

I am not saying sending a woman was a bad choice. But she should resonate strong masculine energy and appear put together. Tulsi Gabbard was perfect for this. 

[QandC]

Lol, Trump won.

Hope he will end the Ukraine BS. Enough already. Having to pay more than half my salary for taxes that goes to that corrupt shithole, no thanks

[Kid A]

Among many other horrible things, this is the ultimate proof of a deep masculinity crisis in the West, considering how popular Trump is among young men, not just in the US. If boys and young men don't have healthy masculine role models, unhealthy ones like Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson or Trump will simply fill that role. This is the recipe for being radicalized. Time has come for our societies to take masculinity much more seriously.

Edited 15 hours ago by Kid A