2024 Election Discussion General

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, before looking deeper, I just asked Claude AI why Bernie lost to Biden.

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Bernie Sanders lost to Biden in 2020 for several key reasons:

1. Democratic establishment support

• The party leadership and infrastructure largely backed Biden, viewing him as a safer choice

2. Obama association

• Biden's connection to the popular Obama presidency resonated with many Democratic voters, especially African Americans

3. "Return to normalcy" message

• Biden's promise of stability and restoration after Trump appealed to voters who were exhausted by political turmoil

4. Coalition differences:

• Biden dominated with older voters and Black voters
• Sanders' youth support, while passionate, had lower turnout
• Suburban voters, especially women, broke heavily for Biden

5. Moderate lane consolidation

• When Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropped out before Super Tuesday and endorsed Biden, their supporters largely went to him, while the progressive vote remained split between Sanders and Warren

6. Perceived electability

• Many Democrats prioritized beating Trump above all else, and polling consistently showed Biden performing better in hypothetical matchups against Trump

7. Mainstream media coverage

• Sanders faced more skeptical coverage of his democratic socialist policies, while Biden received generally favorable coverage as the moderate choice

Edited 18 hours ago by Nemra

[Husseinisdoingfine]

I saw this meme on Reddit. What do you think are the implication of this? Strange how the people who suffer the most economically vote for those who oppose; unions, minimum wage laws, expansions to healthcare, opposed Biden's infrastructure bill and then took credit for it, etc...

Edited 8 hours ago by Husseinisdoingfine

[Leo Gura]

@Nemra It would be better if you contemplated for yourself.

Edited 16 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Nemra]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It would be better if you contemplated for yourself.

Ok.

However, I want to know and understand the facts and context of situations with AI in order to enhance my research.

I think contemplation can be done with or without AI.

I'm aware that I can delude myself using AI, like treating its responses as if I thought about them or thinking that I can draw conclusions like it does.

Edited 13 hours ago by Nemra

[ryandesreu]

An example of why parts of the Republican party is referred to as a cult.

[Fearey]

This will all gracefully untangle itself with time. Disturbance and chaos facilitates growth.

This time around we might get the chance see a great deal of that, which I'm very excited for.

[Yimpa]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-by-his-pro-israel-cabinet-picks-2024-11-15/
 

Muslims for Trump realizing they’ve been scammed 

[whh2222]

1 hour ago, Yimpa said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-by-his-pro-israel-cabinet-picks-2024-11-15/
 

Muslims for Trump realizing they’ve been scammed 

no fuckinnnnn duh. jesus christ lol. So many fools drank the kool aid. The amount of people who voted for a candidate and system against their own interest due to it being such a wild card is like the equivalent of putting their life's savings on black in roulette. 

Edited 6 hours ago by whh2222