2024 Election Discussion General

[Terell Kirby]

3 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I think Trump won because the idiots couldn't admit their own ignorance.

well .. it’s more sinister than that. They actually take pride in their ignorance, they love to indulge in it, like a pig in mud.

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, Nemra said:

I think Trump won because the idiots couldn't admit their own ignorance.

You're lacking self honesty yourself if you think you understand the thinking process, psychology, values, logic of 70+ million people. 

[Nemra]

31 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

well .. it’s more sinister than that. They actually take pride in their ignorance, they love to indulge in it, like a pig in mud.

It's no wonder that Leo is offline.

I'm starting to actually get sick of Trump supporters as I'm learning more about Trump. They don't understand that they are being misled.

In the beginning, overall, I didn't like his behavior and mindset. I was aware that he was spreading lies, but I didn't understand how much influence it had on people. Also, I have found right-wing people too reactionary, not being able to think for themselves and close-minded.

It's becoming obvious every day that Trump and his allies want to be in positions of power so that they can do whatever the hell they want without consequences.

Edited November 10 by Nemra

[Nemra]

19 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

You're lacking self honesty yourself if you think you understand the thinking process, psychology, values, logic of 70+ million people. 

Gaslighting is the weapon of people who have a lack of thought.

Edited November 10 by Nemra

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, Nemra said:

Gaslighting is the weapon of people who have a lack of thought.

Maybe but my statement above applies just the same. It's propostorous levels of arrogance to believe you understand the perception of 70+ milion people. I doubt you'd be able to understand fully my perception of the world alone. And I'm just one person among those 70+ milion. 

Edited November 10 by Salvijus

[Nemra]

22 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Maybe but my statement above applies just the same. It's propostorous levels of arrogance to believe you understand the perception of 70+ milion people. I doubt you'd be able to understand my perception alone. And I'm just one person among those 70+ milion. 

It's arrogant of you to tell me that I'm not honest with myself and to tell me that I should know every bit of people's lives to understand why they voted for Trump.

If I supported Trump, I wouldn't know that I'm an idiot and being misled.

I could be, and perhaps I am an idiot in other things. It's not like I have an easy time accepting my idiocies.

If you're actually compassionate towards people, you'll not avoid calling people an idiot.

An idiot doesn't want to acknowledge his idiocy. You don't understand that no one can avoid idiocy, and instead of admitting that you can be an idiot, you "call others out" and show "compassion" to people who voted for Trump.

Edited November 10 by Nemra

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, Nemra said:

It's arrogant of you to tell me that I'm not honest with myself and to tell me that I should know every bit of people's lives to understand why they voted for Trump

If I supported Trump, I wouldn't know that I'm an idiot and being misled.

I could be, and perhaps I am an idiot in other things. It's not like I have an easy time accepting my idiocies. 

If you're actually compassionate towards people, you'll not avoid calling people an idiot.

An idiot doesn't want to acknowledge his idiocy. You don't understand that no one can avoid idiocy, and instead of admitting that you can be an idiot, you "call others out" and show "compassion" to people who voted for Trump.

Hm, ok. 

[hundreth]

5 hours ago, zazen said:

I would recommend people start spending some time on X and see the type of discussions and information being shared as to not be blindsided by reality.

 

 

I have to say I'm very confused by your perspectives. Having read your posts in the Israel discussions, I can't understand how you would be making pro Trump arguments here.

Is it not obvious he is a conman? Is this some kind of psychological cope mechanism you're going through? What's up dude? Lol

[UnbornTao]

4 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

@ryandesreu @Davino @Kid A @whh2222 @Ulax After a couple of days informing myself about the political US scene and watching several interviews in Joe Rogan I absolutely declare myself a Trump supporter, not only that but I truly remark again you guys have completely got it backwards and US and the world will benefit a lot from this new mandate. 

The bad guys, the closedmindness, fanaticals and extremists are what you guys call the 'left', and the "right" is now the new outsiders and modern people.

As I said previously in this topic, you as well as others are falling in the trick of mainstream media which are selling you a single pointed view which always benefits democrats and shits on republicans, cherrypicking facts and news.

In summary, and I said this 3-4 years ago, the system had made you a trick on your minds. Basically what you think is progressive, modern and conscious is actually the most closedmindness, fanatical and extremist (woke culture, etc...) and what your system calls as right wing or conservative is what is actually now the modern and conscious perspective.

Yes, I am saying to vote Trump you have to be more conscious that you have to be vote Kamala. You lack the consciousness to get this now but you will get it in the future. 

Of course.

This is a bit like saying: I'm going to study the merits of Nazism. I wonder what Hitler had to say about it.

Diversify your information sources (even infotainment shows such as John Oliver and Jon Stewart), or just start paying attention to the person himself and his actions. 

[thinkingmonkey3]

@Leo Gura  Hi Leo! Could you please make a video predicting what might happen in America after Trump’s election?

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Official Election Update

Arizona has finally been called for Trump.

 

[Davino]

@nexusoflife Very well said

[Socrates]

It is about to get ugly and he isn't even in office yet, I dont know if i'd rather cry or laugh 😅😅

[Socrates]

6 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

 

Trump and his team watching Harris speech.

Damn, these people are evil, no self-reflection no accountability no truth. Just lies lies lies mudding the water and winning through division.

[zurew]

6 hours ago, zazen said:

Whats wrong in what was shared?

2 things wrong:

1 of those tweets say "this smell like  fraud and or corruption" - any evidence for any of that? Because if you don't, then this would be categorized as a shitpost. "there is an information that I cant explain, therefore im going to assume something negative there and im gonna pretend that I want to do an honest inquiry and that im just asking questions".

The second issue is with the FDA comments, the obvious implication there is corruption ,where those pharmacutical products are either dangerous or dont work - any evidence for any of that? If not, then again it is just another shitpost hiding behind "just asking questions".

 

[ryandesreu]

5 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

@ryandesreu @Davino @Kid A @whh2222 @UlaxAfter a couple of days informing myself about the political US scene and watching several interviews in Joe Rogan I absolutely declare myself a Trump supporter, not only that but I truly remark again you guys have completely got it backwards and US and the world will benefit a lot from this new mandate. 

The bad guys, the closedmindness, fanaticals and extremists are what you guys call the 'left', and the "right" is now the new outsiders and modern people.

As I said previously in this topic, you as well as others are falling in the trick of mainstream media which are selling you a single pointed view which always benefits democrats and shits on republicans, cherrypicking facts and news.

In summary, and I said this 3-4 years ago, the system had made you a trick on your minds. Basically what you think is progressive, modern and conscious is actually the most closedmindness, fanatical and extremist (woke culture, etc...) and what your system calls as right wing or conservative is what is actually now the modern and conscious perspective.

Yes, I am saying to vote Trump you have to be more conscious that you have to be vote Kamala. You lack the consciousness to get this now but you will get it in the future. 

You watch some Joe Rogan and after a couple of days you have the entire US political scene figured out? You're kidding.

Now, the world's economy has been recovering from the pandemic-induced inflation, with inflation rates easing in recent months. However, many Americans haven’t felt the benefits of this recovery, and conservative media continues to push the narrative that the economy is struggling under Biden. While some areas are improving, the recovery has been uneven.

When Trump returns to office, he will roll back safety and environmental regulations, tap into oil reserves, and cut taxes disproportionately for the rich again, increasing the national debt and screwing over future generations. Basically just taking out a loan on the US to make himself look successful. Myopic, unsustainable policies.

He will then claim all credit for economic improvements, even though the healthy growth was already in motion under Biden. Conservative media will then shift its narrative, giving the economic success to Trump. That is if his tariffs don't push the economy into a recession first.

 

 

[MarkKol]

Elon Musk having a transgender daughter/son who's leaving the US is the biggest plot twist I've seen.

A mix of the biggest shitshows in America; MAGA republicans and transgender kids.

Elon is so bright politically that he doesn't see an issue with bringing back American manufacturing with tariffs ahead of an AI revolution, even though his own company is building a robot for that shit.

Even without AI, Low wage jobs like manufacturing are bound to attract even more low income immigrants.

Edited November 10 by MarkKol

[Consept]

27 minutes ago, ryandesreu said:

He will then claim all credit for economic improvements, even though the healthy growth was already in motion under Biden. Conservative media will then shift its narrative, giving the economic success to Trump. That is if his tariffs don't push the economy into a recession first.

If he actually does what he claimed he would in terms of tariffs and mass deportation, Americas economy will be on its knees. On the coverage in the UK they were discussed whether or not he would be too lazy to enact his policies, which i find hilarious that America being destroyed is just down to whether Trump can be bothered 

[Jodistrict]

The Democrat party is doing some much needed soul searching.  Their candidate and her message clearly failed with the majority of the country.

“Or perhaps Democrats’ failure to connect with the concerns of working-class voters cost them the White House, as progressives such as Senator Bernie Sanders argued.

‘It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic party which has abandoned working-class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said in his post-election statement. “In the coming weeks and months those of us concerned about grassroots democracy and economic justice need to have some very serious political discussions.’ “

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/10/democrats-election-loss

[Atb210201]