2024 Election Discussion General

[Consept]

1 hour ago, LordFall said:

I asked chatGPT for the characteristics of fascism and that's what it gave me 

1. Authoritarian Leadership
2. Totalitarian Control
3. Nationalism and Xenophobia
4. Militarism and Violence
5. Anti-Communism and Anti-Democracy
6. Corporatism and State-Controlled Economy
7. Propaganda and Mass Mobilization
8. Rejection of Modernity and Embrace of Tradition
9. Scapegoating and the Creation of Enemies
10. Anti-Intellectualism

He seems to hit on most of these but time will tell. 

1. No but I think he would if guard rails weren't on and pushes at as much as he can

2. Potential for it but not yet 

3. Yes obviously they're eating the dogs 

4. Jan 6th but generally not really 

5. Yes def 

6. Not really but argument for corpatism if he has his way 

7. Yes fake news 

8. Yes maga 

9. Yes, Marxism, liberals, immigrants 

10. Yes of course 

7 definite yes even if I disregard the others completely, I would say that's enough for the label 

 

[PurpleTree]

18 minutes ago, Zega said:

That's pretty much straight from Carlin 

This person doesn’t even speak English i doubt he heard Carlin.

[Scarecrow]

7 minutes ago, Zega said:

@Scarecrow I don't know what's extreme about Kamala...other than conservatives calling anything even remotely left of center "socialism" or "communism" but you aren't considering that the first time around they didn't have an agenda like P2025

 

 

Your right. I Don’t know anything about her or neither does anyone else out there. I can call her a communist. But it don’t mean anything,  I’m a conservative. But I’m not some right wing fundamentalist. I don’t even care about trump. I think the left invented the image of trump. Russian collusion, worse then hitler, fascist. Built up a lot of hatred and fear around a guy who could have been Just another president or guy that ran. 0 proof on what people say about trump. Jsut vibes and energy. Which is fine. We fear what could be. Far right ideologies is scary. But that’s not trump.  It got out of hand

[Something Funny]

[ArcticGong]

I have listened to a couple of political autopsies of what went wrong and I think it’s a mosaic of pieces, some more bigger and more significant than other. The border and the economy seems to be what is most important in this election. Still, I can’t get over the condoning of Trump.  I honestly had better faith in the American public.

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

This person doesn’t even speak English i doubt he heard Carlin.

Googled it and the original similar quote comes from a French guy from a letter from 1811

Joseph de Maistre

"Every country deserves the government it has"

 

https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_de_Maistre

[Joshe]

29 minutes ago, QandC said:

Trump said himself he doesn't want a national abortion ban though.

Ohhhh! I didn't know he said that. 

16 minutes ago, zazen said:

Ya’ll need to get it together and vibe.

Happy Trump Vibes.

13 minutes ago, Raze said:

I bet he just blames progressives again 

I think Leo already said it's on the American people. I just watched Marianne W.'s response and she's placing it all on the Dems. She has a good point about how they went about the primary, but she, for obvious reasons, avoids the elephant in the room. 

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

You can probably "manifest" it if you believe it enough.

[Raze]

I dislike Vaush but I thought his analysis is good, though missing the young man issue

 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Raze

[Joshe]

For all the people who think compassion and understanding is the way to eliminate Trumpism, here's the calculus for why that's absurd, coming from a reformed hippy. 

 

[Something Funny]

1 minute ago, PurpleTree said:

You can probably "manifest" it if you believe it enough.

I wish you guys stopped with this stupid manifestation bullshit

[QandC]

1 minute ago, Joshe said:

For all the people who think compassion and understanding is the way to eliminate Trumpism, here's the calculus for why that's absurd, coming from a reformed hippy. 

 

lol. True

[BlackPhil]

"Her speech" seems to have taken them a long time to write.

First she doesnt even show up for her supporters, now shes letting them wait even longer.

How can people support this puppet? She doesnt care about you people. She's all fake.

[kray]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

What has Trump been offering?

You are okay with a fascist but Kamala is too hard to swallow?

Kamala offered a normal competent administration. If that isn't sexy enough for you, then tough. Fascism it is.

It’s because she’s a black women. That’s as simple as it gets. Not a lot of people in this country are ready for that in all honesty.

[BlackPhil]

Now watching the vaush stream. Its actually scary to see what an echo-chamber these people exist in. No wonder why they are so surprised by these results. They actually, unironically seem to think Trump is Hitler.

Edited 13 hours ago by BlackPhil

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

I wish you guys stopped with this stupid manifestation bullshit

I called manifestation horse dung in my thread. But i think if half the country always talks about the last election, fascism, hitler ww3 you might "manifest" it. 

[Something Funny]

Just now, PurpleTree said:

I called manifestation horse dung in my thread. But i think if half the country always talks about the last election, fascism, hitler ww3 you might "manifest" it. 

In my experience, the worst things happen when people expect them the least.

[PurpleTree]

3 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

In my experience, the worst things happen when people expect them the least.

Could go both ways or neither. It’s unknowable anyway. Let’s say a guy is always scared to get cancer he might get himself sick by always thinking about it. If he gets it checked a lot he might also find it earlier. 

Edited 13 hours ago by PurpleTree

[Ramu]

Being a prosecutor is one thing...leading the free world...a much bigger job, that apparently no one really thought she could handle.  How she would have handled international affairs is uncertain, but we were never given a clear or fair choice on a democratic nominee.  Shitty choices, but a no confidence vote on Kamala.  Sorry liberals!

[Something Funny]

@PurpleTree yeah, or you might think that it's 21st century and that there is no way that Russia, a country where half of your relatives live, will turn into a nutjob dictatorship. And then you wake up one day, and learn that Russia started bombing the shit out of your country.