2024 Election Discussion General

[Scholar]

1 minute ago, zazen said:

@Lyubov Your take is the most balanced here.

 

The Age of the Devil is upon us.

[josemar]

1 hour ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Sincere question, I wonder how much of the results of this election were influenced by Harris’s race and gender.

Much less than her inability to answer a question without blaming everything on Trump or bringing up her middle class background.

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, Scholar said:

Why does it say my name in the quote, lol.

[Lyubov]

@zazen thanks, I’ve been told that often in this sub forum here

 

[zurew]

31 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

No.  It means that Americans no longer trust the mainstream media.  They rejected the mainstream narrative.

This is false. There is such a thing as conservative mainstream media (for example Fox news) and Trump supporters didn't have any ounce of skepticism towards them. Its not a question of mainstream or non-mainstream media its more of a question of anti vs pro establishment narratives.

Low information voters will just trust stuff thats in-line with either an anti or pro estabishment narrative.

And there is an incredibly small fraction of voters who have the time and capability to actually honestly investigate claims regardless if those claims go against their view. But these people don't outright just reject mainstream media claims, they actually try to engage with those claims and investigate those claims.

Edited November 6 by zurew

[Lyubov]

1 hour ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Sincere question, I wonder how much of the results of this election were influenced by Harris’s race and gender.

It played a role. A lot of people don’t want a minority woman president but I also think her messaging played a role. Let’s let the numbers settle but if it stands at 15 million dems that sat out, that says a ton about her campaign and messaging. 

[mojsterr]

Edited November 6 by mojsterr

[ryandesreu]

Many Americans still seem lost when it comes to understanding politics, and last night's election was a stark reminder of that. Maybe a second Trump term is the wake-up call this country needs. It might spark a shift that benefits us in the long run, though I'm not holding my breath.

[mojsterr]

 

[Nemra]

8 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

It played a role. A lot of people don’t want a minority woman president but I also think her messaging played a role. Let’s let the numbers settle but if it stands at 15 million dems that sat out, that says a ton about her campaign and messaging. 

The Israel-Palestine conflict is the most reasonable issue that those 15 million Democrats could have used as a justification not to vote for Kamala.

[bambi]

Awesome I liked JD Vance, seems intelligent and rounded.

Liberals over-demonize trump. He isnt going to be starting any wars, theres no evidence for this. Ultimately he seeks self-promotion, and economic success, wars arent going to be high on his agenda

[Raze]

Please do not fall for democrats saying she lost for her race and gender, this is just their ploy to not have to change policy or messaging.

Obama won twice.

Hillary won the popular vote.

That is not the issue here.

[UnbornTao]

6 hours ago, Ulax said:

Would recommend meal prepping chamomile tea for the next 4 years lol

For real 😂

[Scholar]

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

The Israel-Palestine conflict is the most reasonable issue that those 15 million Democrats could have used as a justification not to vote for Kamala.

All of Israel's right wants Trump to be elected. He will give Netanyahu carte blanche.

[Ulax]

1 minute ago, Raze said:

Please do not fall for democrats saying she lost for her race and gender, this is just their ploy to not have to change policy or messaging.

Obama won twice.

Hillary won the popular vote.

That is not the issue here.

Neither of these were black woman.

[UnbornTao]

36 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

That's not the right reason to support Trump imo lol. 

Speak for yourself  

[bambi]

The vice presidents are way more credible to me then the presidents. Im from the UK so not sure the intricicies of US politics. But I wonder how much influence both the vice president vs president have on policy and reform. 

Its wierd that the VP both seem exponentially more credible and intelligent then the the Presidential candidates

Kamala and Trump can both barely string a coherent honest detailing of what they will do and why. But the VPs both seem like they deeply care and want to do a good job

[Nemra]

1 minute ago, Scholar said:

All of Israel's right wants Trump to be elected. He will give Netanyahu carte blanche.

I know.

It's fascinating that people don't get that.

[Kid A]

Ronald Reagan saved the world from ending, together with Gorbachev. At the same time, he started the downfall of the American middle class, removed the Media Neutrality Act and pretty much laid the foundation for Trump 30 years later. He sure was a complex person!

[Raze]

2 minutes ago, Ulax said:

Neither of these were black woman.

It proves race and gender are not unsolvable obstacles. Unless you’re saying everyone just hates black women in particular.

Kamala was a weak candidate. She offered men nothing, barely campaigned, and acted like a condescending douche to Muslims and the anti war left.