2024 Election Discussion General

[Gidiot]

Just curious what a men’s policy would be, what would you have them do?

What women’s policies are democrats supporting? If you ask me pro choice is about human dignity not about women’s privilege and it effects men equally.

I myself am a man but I can’t think of a specific policy for me? I’ve always wanted more government incentivized or sponsored social outings to potentially find a girlfriend but that’s about it.

There’s the right wing and the left wing there’s nothing inherently feminine about left wing policies and masculine about right wing.

i think it’s personally kind of offensive to think that trumps policies are masculine anyway because that is not my idea of a masculine man.
 

Now Ill give you that they don’t usually

use masculine language and messaging but of all of Kamala’s proposed policies they effect the two sexes equally. 
 

also isn’t it time women get catered too? men have been catered to for all of political history in this country. It’s nice to know someone has their back for once.

[Nemra]

@What Am I, If these comedians didn't primarily hold right-wing values, they wouldn't be supporting Trump.

Also, you are portraying Trump supporters as independent thinkers.

[What Am I]

7 minutes ago, Gidiot said:

There’s the right wing and the left wing there’s nothing inherently feminine about left wing policies and masculine about right wing.

See, that's interesting, because I always made the connection in my mind that this was exactly the case. I'm uneducated in the intricacies of politics, but I'd have to imagine I'm not the first person to notice the dualistic nature of reality (which usually does split into masculine and feminine qualities) applies to the two-party system in the US.

Edited Monday at 01:01 AM by What Am I

[What Am I]

5 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@What Am I, If these comedians didn't primarily hold right-wing values, they wouldn't be supporting Trump.

Also, you are portraying Trump supporters as independent thinkers.

Well when there's tens of millions of them, it wouldn't be too surprising if at least a few were capable of forming a thought. It'd probably be strange if that wasn't the case.

Edited Monday at 01:00 AM by What Am I

[Raze]

26 minutes ago, Gidiot said:

Just curious what a men’s policy would be, what would you have them do?

What women’s policies are democrats supporting? If you ask me pro choice is about human dignity not about women’s privilege and it effects men equally.

I myself am a man but I can’t think of a specific policy for me? I’ve always wanted more government incentivized or sponsored social outings to potentially find a girlfriend but that’s about it.

There’s the right wing and the left wing there’s nothing inherently feminine about left wing policies and masculine about right wing.

i think it’s personally kind of offensive to think that trumps policies are masculine anyway because that is not my idea of a masculine man.
 

Now Ill give you that they don’t usually

use masculine language and messaging but of all of Kamala’s proposed policies they effect the two sexes equally. 
 

also isn’t it time women get catered too? men have been catered to for all of political history in this country. It’s nice to know someone has their back for once.

- the democrats have a “who we serve” page that lists all groups except men including issues they support women on

https://democrats.org/who-we-are/who-we-serve/

the government also has multiple offices for womens health in addition to education programs for women for example 

- it’s not that trump has pro male policies but rather because democrats alienate men by either ignoring them or criticizing them some turn to republicans 

- currently men are a minority of high school and college grads, their average wages are lower than they were in 1979, have a lower average lifespan, and are the majority of: drug overdose deaths, suicides, workplace deaths, homicide victims, homeless, and prisoners. These issues among others increasing can cause men to feel the government isn’t serving their interests.

- if men have a perception that democrats are also looking out for them specifically they would be more likely to vote for them, here’s an article that gives some examples of how democrats could do this 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/10/17/harris-campaign-strategy-men-00184062

Edited Monday at 01:20 AM by Raze

[aurum]

12 minutes ago, Raze said:

- the democrats have a “who we serve” page that lists all groups except men including issues they support women on

https://democrats.org/who-we-are/who-we-serve/

That is embarrassingly bad.

It's easy to get so focused on bringing down patriarchy that you start to believe you can ignore men's issues, or that men's issues really just are symptoms of patriarchy. This is a trap I see a lot of leftists fall into.

[Hardkill]

Michael Moore still predicts that Harris will win: 

 

Check out his latest article too:

https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/a-night-at-the-garden-an-election

[Hardkill]

11 hours ago, aurum said:

Jill Stein is embarrassing and should not be taken seriously by anyone as a presidential candidate. 

Kamala is hollow in the sense that she’s probably not going to do anything too bold.

People thought that Biden was not going to do anything too bold in 2020. He ran on "Nothing with fundamentally change, when I become president." Yet, he shockingly turned out to be the most liberal president in policy since LBJ in the 1960s.

You don't really know how a president will really govern until they've been subjected to the pressures of the lobbying, how much of a mandate he/she is given, whether or not the president and their party will have enough votes in Congress to get what they need or want passed through Congress, whether or not there is a crisis, how much to the left or how much to the right the president's party as a whole has shifted in recent times, whether or not there is enough of a cultural movement for pressuring the president and Congress to pass certain laws, etc.

Edited Monday at 03:17 AM by Hardkill

[Yimpa]

“Bad Bunny boosts Harris as a Puerto Rico ‘joke’ backfires on Trump”

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/28/nx-s1-5167745/bad-bunny-kamala-harris-donald-trump-puerto-rico-garbage
 

 

[Nemra]

8 hours ago, What Am I said:

Well when there's tens of millions of them, it wouldn't be too surprising if at least a few were capable of forming a thought. It'd probably be strange if that wasn't the case.

I would say that it's asymmetrical.

[Juan]

I hope this affects negatively to Trump votes. There are millions of puertoricans in the US (and for you that don’t know we are a US territory sadly, for now).

[Schizophonia]

16 hours ago, Thought Art said:

@Schizophonia I am joking and regret the sarcasm… sorry.

What you said doesn't pose a problem to me at all. 

 

[aurum]

12 hours ago, Hardkill said:

People thought that Biden was not going to do anything too bold in 2020. He ran on "Nothing with fundamentally change, when I become president." Yet, he shockingly turned out to be the most liberal president in policy since LBJ in the 1960s.

You don't really know how a president will really govern until they've been subjected to the pressures of the lobbying, how much of a mandate he/she is given, whether or not the president and their party will have enough votes in Congress to get what they need or want passed through Congress, whether or not there is a crisis, how much to the left or how much to the right the president's party as a whole has shifted in recent times, whether or not there is enough of a cultural movement for pressuring the president and Congress to pass certain laws, etc.

Biden was not really that bold either. I believe all things considered he was a good president, maybe even a great one. But a bold visionary he was not.

Kamala will likely be similar. I think she will be competent and do good things for the country, but will not be bold. She’s just not shown that she is interested in that.

Obviously this is just my prediction and could be wrong.

Edited Monday at 03:33 PM by aurum

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Elon Musk's full speech at Madison Square Garden:

 

 

Edited Monday at 02:58 PM by Husseinisdoingfine

[Schizophonia]

9 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Elon Musk's full speech at Madison Square Garden:

 

 

Lol EM looks like an aspie on testosterone enanthate. 

[What Am I]

37 minutes ago, aurum said:

Biden was not really that bold either. I believe all things considered he was a good president, maybe even a great one. But a bold visionary he was not.

Kamala will likely be similar. I think she will be competent and do good things for the country, but will not be bold. She’s just not shown that she is interested in that:

Obviously this is just my prediction and could be wrong.

I wonder though, would it be off-base to assume that both Biden and Kamala are representative of the establishment's goals, and neither would act arbitrarily to any significant degree? From my perspective, it doesn't seem like it makes much of a difference which of them is in office in terms of what would end up happening.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Dana White, owner of the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) gave a speech for Trump at Madison Square Garden.

From Joe Rogan having Trump on his show, to UFC, to Tate, and now Elon, all of these macho-bro types all seem to love Trump.

Edited Monday at 03:17 PM by Husseinisdoingfine

[Nemra]

16 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Dana White, owner of the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) gave a speech for Trump at Madison Square Garden.

From Joe Rogan having Trump on his show, to UFC, to Tate, and now Elon, all of these macho-bro types all seem to love Trump.

He tries not to be outright sexist.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

29 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

From Joe Rogan having Trump on his show, to UFC, to Tate, and now Elon, all of these macho-bro types all seem to love Trump.

Further proving my point:

 

[Thought Art]