Solip, suicide and death

[Will1125]

What does a Solipsist thinks about that?

Can a Solipsist kill himself?

[Someone here]

@Will1125 Hi . I'm a solipsist. 

 You can definitely kill yourself. But tough shit ..you will just find yourself inside another solipsistic dream of yours .just like what happens if you try to kill yourself in a (nightly)dream.

[Atb210201]

Who is killing whom?

Who is dying?

Of course nobody if everything is you.

Edited October 12, 2024 by Atb210201

[Hojo]

I don't think so. 

[Javfly33]

Some things can only be known best by experience

[Pro24]

1 hour ago, Will1125 said:

What does a Solipsist thinks about that?

Can a Solipsist kill himself?

When I listened to Leo's deleted solipsism video, I was motivated to live more to have a direct experience of solipsism. @Javfly33 @LoseYourvelf

Edited October 11, 2024 by Pro24

[LoseYourvelf]

True solipsism means killing yourself isn't an option

If you went down that path you were pushed there by "the other"

It's tough but true solipsism is terrifying compared to the idea of killing yourself or trying to, literally everything is a hallucination, the work becomes a little different then. I feel like you have a hang-up getting to your solipsism that's causing this suicidal ideation, just my two cents

Worth revisiting for sure, if you're suicidal you aren't tuning into your trip/solipsism the full way, or getting scared off/backed down by something

I have considered doing something stupid like hanging myself or looked at a ten strip of double dosed tabs and considered eating it in a rushed panicked frenzy to properly battle demons while trying to integrate solipsism, I have tossed my belongings all over my room, both times I had failed... I looked to another asides the solipsism y'see  we have hang ups and guilt before we have God lol

A suicidal person will consider killing themselves before they reach a solipsistic awakening, or after they reach an incomplete form of solipsism, ime

You can also think of it like suicide "solves/answers" something, there is no answer or solution in solipsism 

You need to confront your suicidal ideation before your solipsism or just fuck it and confront the solipsism and whatever comes up ;)!

Hope this helps and let me promise - your solipsism does not want your physical death

Edited October 11, 2024 by LoseYourvelf

[Breakingthewall]

Solipsism is the biggest bullshit ever. It means that you are imagining others. It forgets to explain what "imagining" means. Is imagining something, shall we say, magical? ahhhhhh, good explanation friend, that's understanding! Well no, imagining is something real, it is an action that moves the infinite, the same as opening a door, there is no difference. To imagine is the perception of an energetic undulation that takes place by contrasting infinitely separate holons that vibrate with respect to each other, thus creating an image. You are not doing it, you are perceiving it, and infinite images are being perceived now, creating infinite perceivers. You are a perceiver created by a perception. Deeply you are the absolute reality, but deeply no perception is happening. things are not so simple. Well, yes, if you want to simplify them, giving up true understanding. to feel so smart. but what do you get with that?

Edited October 11, 2024 by Breakingthewall

[LoseYourvelf]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

Solipsism is the biggest bullshit ever. It means that you are imagining others. It forgets to explain what "imagining" means. Is imagining something, shall we say, magical? ahhhhhh, good explanation friend, that's understanding! Well no, imagining is something real, it is an action that moves the infinite, the same as opening a door, there is no difference. To imagine is the creation of an energetic undulation that takes place by contrasting infinitely separate holons that vibrate with respect to each other, thus creating an image. You are not doing it, you are perceiving it, and infinite images are being perceived now, creating infinite perceivers. You are a perceiver created by a perception. Deeply you are the absolute reality, but deeply no perception is happening. things are not so simple. Well, yes, if you want to simplify them, giving up true understanding. to feel so smart. but what do you get with that?

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, LoseYourvelf said:

Beautiful design

[LoseYourvelf]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Beautiful design

True

(I did not change bros mind xD)

[LoseYourvelf]

@Breakingthewall I love your PFP, i love pirates and pirate ships, i edited a random google photo for the vibes a while ago

what u think?

 

 

 

 

[Pro24]

6 minutes ago, LoseYourvelf said:

True

(I did not change bros mind xD)

@LoseYourvelf it all seems so mysterious that I become desperate. I don't know what's going on. There are so many sweet people on this planet who I don't want to lose . I don't want to die because I want to live with sweet people forever. 

Maybe one day I will get disillusioned. It'll be hard. Sometimes I think why the fuck I am sharing anything with others if there is no other. Becz I sometimes have slight realisation or intuition that solipsism is true. 

Reality makes me emotional and desperate. @Leo Gura help me. I can't transfer my feelings to you. I can't only throw words. 

I don't have words. 

Edited October 11, 2024 by Pro24

[LoseYourvelf]

2 minutes ago, Pro24 said:

@LoseYourvelf it all seems so mysterious that I become desperate. I don't know what's going on. There are so many sweet people on this planet who I don't want to lose . I don't want to die because I want to live with sweet people forever. 

Maybe one day I will get disillusioned. It'll be hard. Sometimes I think why the fuck I am sharing anything with others if there is no other. Becz I sometimes have slight realisation or intuition that solipsism is true. 

Reality makes me emotional and desperate. @Leo Gura help me. 

This is my experience of spiritual awakening and psychedelics, solipsism is an idea/concept used to describe experience/consciousness

I recommend Leo's Infinity of Gods awakening video
 

 

Edited October 11, 2024 by LoseYourvelf

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, LoseYourvelf said:

@Breakingthewall I love your PFP, i love pirates and pirate ships, i edited a random google photo for the vibes a while ago

what u think?

 

 

 

 

Beautiful and evocative, but my picture is because I like sail boats and because it's the design of a cover of a book by the best writer who has given the infinite cosmos: jack vance. 

[LoseYourvelf]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Beautiful and evocative, but my picture is because I like sail boats and because it's the design of a cover of a book by the best writer who has given the infinite cosmos: jack vance. 

Thanks, and that's cool

[Will1125]

In my opinion the dreamer cant die but its crazy 

 

Im not suicidal, Im just trying to really understand what is death from solipsism point of view

 

Technically there is no birth, so why would there be a death?

At relative level there would be a death but if we don't experience it, at ultimate level there are no deaths, I think that is the truth

 

Edited October 12, 2024 by Will1125

[Yeah Yeah]

It think its like pure awareness but nothing is tricky because it isn't nothing, or void, or nothing or any word ... same with the light at the end of the tunnel - It wouldn't be light, or bright, or transience, because these are words made by humans in finite minds constructed through evolution and society - It'd be beyond words - So I wonder if death is pure awareness afte dropping off this dream body finitude

Edited October 12, 2024 by Yeah Yeah