Selling high consciousness porn?

[Jannes]

Okay so in a recent thread it was discussed if porn is high or low consciousness. I would agree that most porn and being involved with it in some way is low consciousness. 

I might have stumbled across a pretty good counter example though. Lets just say there is certain kind of animated porn that I enjoy and usually that type of porn is created in the lowest consciousness garbage way and you feel dirty after watching it. But in this case someone created an interesting world and story with interesting characters, art and good dialogue around the sex. I didnt feel dirty afterwards I was delighted. 

Putting consciousness in low consciousness environments might be a very noble job in helping to raise societies consciousness. 

What do you think?

[Keryo Koffa]

It all depends upon the energetic intent behind it, same with any activity.
Is it merely to scratch an itch, or to use it as a canvas for (self-)exploration?
Sex is the physical expression of a vast and universal field of sensual energy.
Porn, when conscious, expands from mere need satisfaction into an art form.
When it merges with the divine element of interconnectedness, it's actualizing.

@Princess Arabia might have some insights to share.

Edited October 10 by Keryo Koffa

[Someone here]

"Brazzers is free "!

[Jannes]

@Someone here So?

[lostingenosmaze]

58 minutes ago, Jannes said:

Lets just say there is certain kind of animated porn that I enjoy and usually that type of porn is created in the lowest consciousness garbage way and you feel dirty after watching it. But in this case someone created an interesting world and story with interesting characters, art and good dialogue around the sex. I didnt feel dirty afterwards I was delighted. 

Let me guess, hentai VNs 

[Someone here]

7 minutes ago, Jannes said:

@Someone here So?

So ? There ain't no such thing as high consciousness porn . Porn is one giant piece of absolute shit .do you know the etymology of the word "porn " ? It literally translates as " dirt".

[Jannes]

3 minutes ago, lostingenosmaze said:

Let me guess, hentai VNs 

No I like futa. But almost everything I can find is very hardcore, low quality shit which I am not a fan of.

But now that you mention it there are certainly entertaining manga porn stories out there which I think give you more value then regular porn. 

[Princess Arabia]

Once a friend of mine showed me a porn site. I never heard of it and i forgot the name and a subscription is needed to access the main site. It was very classy and the way they performed was like you were watching the human body in art form. Just like you have people doing nude art that's done in an artful way and there are nude or semi-nude pictures of male and female bodies all over the globe shown in museums on some streets as monuments etc. Nobody wants to jerk off to those so they're not a problem. 

People will criticize hot bikini women being used to sell stuff even if done in a classy way, but will walk by a shopping mall where in the windows I've seen pictures with men in underwear and no shirt Calvin Klein or whatever with their bulges showing  and women in bikinis in windows of well established clothing companies. Let that same woman in the same bikini selling the same thing be a real woman on the corner promoting the same stuff and now its a problem. 

When you've been exposed to a certain thing or the purpose for your using that thing is demeaning in your eyes and you're judging yourself for doing it and with it comes shame and being uncomfortable with what you are engaging in, you will have judgements and criticisms about that thing. Bear in mind here, I'm not referring to exploited women, children and abusive stuff in the industry. It's just there are sites that do it in artful ways and do not have an air of roughness and aggression to it where the actors are not being exploited and no gang bang scenes or men coming on their faces and stuff like that; but it's porn nonetheless. 

When one is uncomfortable with their porn addiction, are sex addicts, or look at the human body a certain way, they will be the first ones to judge the industry. Porn hub and xnx are trashy sites but there are others where people are actually enjoying in the comfort of their homes and couples use to enhance their sex lives. Of course, a man who enjoys watching a woman being fucked in the ass by 10men while sucking on their penises and being cummed on by 5 of them will call porn dirt. Others who can go to a site and pay a subscription to watch mature people in the nude with beautiful bodies who make out in sensual ways, won't find that to be dirt. It depends on what trash you're watching and getting turned on by and the thoughts that come with it. Most men aren't comfortable with their own lustful thoughts and what their dirty little minds fantasize about so they call it trash. It's just so ironic how people know where to find these trash, and can tell you exactly what goes on within these trash sites. Showing how they're the ones fixated on this trash while calling it trash.

Same thing with Only Fans, everybody knows about it, knows what goes on inside if it but always got something negative to say. If I ask you all about The Coconut Mama site and about the healthy recipes she promotes and all the delicious ways people can use coconut, nobody will have heard of her but maybe a few. But everybody and their mama knows about porn hub and OF. This is why I pay humans no mind sometimes and some channels have millions of views while some only a few hundred. People love to hate what they love. I don't really watch porn but only on a few occasions; so this is not about me sticking up for something because I like it. I couldn't care less if porn exists or not. 

Edited October 11 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, Keryo Koffa said:

It all depends upon the energetic intent behind it, same with any activity.
Is it merely to scratch an itch, or to use it as a canvas for (self-)exploration?
Sex is the physical expression of a vast and universal field of sensual energy.
Porn, when conscious, expands from mere need satisfaction into an art form.
When it merges with the divine element of interconnectedness, it's actualizing.

@Princess Arabia might have some insights to share.

This is why I love Teal. She examines things from different angles and not just from one angle. People don't realize the enormity in the differences that makes up our individuality. Apart from the obvious similarities, we are diversely different in how we approach life and how we embrace it. Most of us project our own beliefs, likes and dislikes unto the world because we think we're the only ones that exist. If we say it's trash, it's trash. While some one somewhere might be healing their trauma with responsible sex and with the right mindframe and with the right people and how we view our own sexuality. You can tell a lot about a person just by knowing their dislikes.

I'm watching this video, and she speaks how i would speak. Same stuff i posted in the other thread, especially in the last 5mins of the video. So many trauma induced comments around this topic, you can tell it's the person making the comment that has an issue within their own psyche.

Edited October 11 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, Someone here said:

So ? There ain't no such thing as high consciousness porn . Porn is one giant piece of absolute shit .do you know the etymology of the word "porn " ? It literally translates as " dirt".

From someone who watches or used to watch porn. Every night to jerk off to. Shit in, shit out. 

[Someone here]

14 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

From someone who watches or used to watch porn. Every night to jerk off to. Shit in, shit out. 

Doesn't contradict my point . I smoke cigarettes yet I'm fully aware of the health risks. 

Porn is runned by illuminati. I hope I don't get warning points for saying this ..I'm not trying to be conspiratorial. But this is just the raw truth .

And honestly..I don't give a dam about convincing anyone about this ..its just something you either know or you are yet to awaken to .

Plus you have said before that you was a sex worker in some form..so totally understandable .

Edited October 11 by Someone here

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

Doesn't contradict my point . I smoke cigarettes yet I'm fully aware of the health risks. 

Porn is runned by illuminati. I hope I don't get warning points for saying this ..I'm not trying to be conspiratorial. But this is just the raw truth .

And honestly..I don't give a dam about convincing anyone about this ..its just something you either know or you are yet to awaken to .

Plus you have said before that you was a sex worker in some form..so totally understandable .

The type of sex worker I am is one that need not have sex, I work for myself, by myself and has nothing to do with porn. I will never have sex on camera and I can barely take in one dick inside muchless multiple in a day. Imagine calling yourself a sex worker but very rarely have sex. That's me. It's just I don't need to color coat it and say escort or whatever. I have made money throughout the years from men and couples providing a service and sometimes not. It varies on the circumstances. Porn does nothing for me but I sometimes have to pretend I like it for a customer and nothing wrong with that. I'm probably one of the most sexless person in the entire world who does mostly everything else but have sex and don't need to to make money as a sex worker. Just wanted to make that clear. My pussy is so tight right now from being sexless, My only fear in life other than spiders is a big dick and I mean that. I will not even consider it. It's been a few years like this and it's staying this way until, and if I find the love of my life. Even then, his dick better not be huge or it'll be a deal breaker. 

Edited October 11 by Princess Arabia

[Tenebroso]

I will give you a tip in terms of high consciousness porn. Hegre Art, you will thank me later. Also hardcore stuff is not low consciousness as long as everyone is consenting. Humans are horny and physical, we shouldn't deny it. I feel no shame in watching Amateur Femdom spanking lol

[Princess Arabia]

8 hours ago, Tenebroso said:

I will give you a tip in terms of high consciousness porn. Hegre Art, you will thank me later.

OMG! If you read my first sentence of the first comment I made, this is the site i was speaking of. I forgot the name of it; and when I looked it up after seeing the name you posted, which immediately rang a bell, I noticed it was the same. 

 One Mind. The more you connect mentally, the more things get revealed. People think I speak and parrot gurus but I'm very observant and see for myself the directness of what I speak about. It's no coincidence that you mentioned this exact same site that I didn't remember the name of. 

I was invited to dinner today for a later date by someone i just met, and they gave me a take out menu to revise and take home to see if it's a place I'd like to eat at. Guess what. I came home and guess what was in the mail box. That same take out menu. Delivered and sealed right in my box to let me know this was a good choice. I pay attention to things like these because the Universe sends us signals all the time, we just have to have the eyes to see and acknowledge them when we do. It's a local Italian Restaurant and I love Italian food. I have never even seen that menu before delivered to my mailbox. Pay attention to details and keep your thoughts and ideas out of it. Only if they serve you. This is how to see reality as it is and how to direct it in ways that serve you. Ideas and thoughts about reality are not reality and it's forever changing to fit into our own unique survival mechanisms through our thoughts and beliefs. So, start believing in things you want to see happen.

[Tenebroso]

Reading the sentence, I had a feeling you was talking about Hegre because it's the best example of conscious, healthy porn and I can't think of anything similar. Their videos have a completely different energy to most well known porn companies.

It seems judging by your story that if you pay attention to the right details, you increase the frequency of synchronicities that are aligned with your needs and wants. I am a bit of a day dreamer, it takes a lot of effort for me to pay close attention to something and when I do it is often things that don't serve me.

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, Tenebroso said:

It seems judging by your story that if you pay attention to the right details, you increase the frequency of synchronicities that are aligned with your needs and wants. I am a bit of a day dreamer, it takes a lot of effort for me to pay close attention to something and when I do it is often things that don't serve me.

It's natural for me. I took up psychology in college because I was so curious about human behavior and the concepts of "why" from an early age. So, it takes practice to be able to acquire this skill. I know the more you acknowledge them out loud, the more they present themselves. Today alone I had two. Real quick, I was talking to somebody today about cats and they asked me my cat's name; I told them. They then started to tell me theirs and before they got the name out, I said to myself I bet it will be a name of a cat I've had before. Nope, it wasn't. Guess what, they proceeded to tell me of a cat their mother had named........guess what, it was the same name of a cat I previously had. Things like that. It's a fun game I play with the mind.

It's not just about your needs and wants, just a playfulness with life. Infact, the more you use life for your needs and wants instead of giving back, like I try to do here and in my personal life, the more life takes from you because life mirrors back to you what you present to it. If you say take, take, take, life says, take take take it takes from you. Just approach life with genuine curiosity and wonder and it will show you things that puts you in wonder. Go within more, stop focusing on what others are doing as much, focus on thoughts, feelings and your state of being. Watch stuff that puts the mind at ease including movies, music and people. It's a way of being and the more you rest in awareness the more you become in sync. My life isn't perfect, and I do face challenges, but it's how I see them that counts and the way I respond to them that makes a huge difference. 

[Spiral]

@Jannes No! 

[Ishanga]

I started a thread about this sort of on the Spirituality Forum, its about a woman that used to share videos on Yoga, How to deal with Trauma and a bit of Psychology (this goes back 5 to 7 yrs ago she started this, then in the last 6 mths she's been silent on that front), to now she is full blown into doing hard core porn, and says she wants to make it "High Conscious" porn, but if You watch what she does its just like the others, and she admits she luvs to be watched and have compliments on her body by co workers and film crews, it gets her off, she recently went thru some heavy losses so that may have something to do with her change of course in life, its her life she can do what she wants but imo its not a high conscious choice and coming from Free Will, its more like she wants to forget the losses and feel good about herself and its compulsive in nature!

 

Edited October 13 by Ishanga

[Ishanga]

On 10/10/2024 at 9:07 PM, Princess Arabia said:

This is why I love Teal. She examines things from different angles and not just from one angle. People don't realize the enormity in the differences that makes up our individuality. Apart from the obvious similarities, we are diversely different in how we approach life and how we embrace it. Most of us project our own beliefs, likes and dislikes unto the world because we think we're the only ones that exist. If we say it's trash, it's trash. While some one somewhere might be healing their trauma with responsible sex and with the right mindframe and with the right people and how we view our own sexuality. You can tell a lot about a person just by knowing their dislikes.

I'm watching this video, and she speaks how i would speak. Same stuff i posted in the other thread, especially in the last 5mins of the video. So many trauma induced comments around this topic, you can tell it's the person making the comment that has an issue within their own psyche.

Teal is so fake and just wants attention, have researched her, its pretty obvious what she is about, she is the female version of Frank Yang...

[Basman]

My understanding of low VS high conscious activities is that it is somewhat analogous to Maslow's hierarchy of needs and we can therefor measure how conscious something is depending on where on the hierarchy of needs an activity will tend to fall.

Porn consumption and sex is by definition part of the lowest rung of needs, physical needs, and therefor cannot be high conscious in of itself no matter how you slice it. Making porn can be an artistic pursuit and high quality hentai or erotica can be rich entertainment wise but porn is in of itself low consciousness.

The problem isn't that porn is low conscious but the need to "veganify" everything to appear more spiritual.