Why is there so much violence and torchure in the porn industry?

[Leo Gura]

13 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Seriously, I don't think the two actually goes together - high or low consciousness. Don't even know why the mention.

#1 rule of marketing: 

Everything goes together with big tits.

You mentioned marketing.

[Princess Arabia]

This forum is so judgemental. Don't forget your skeletons in your closets. If you watch porn, by your standards you are also low consciousness. Can't call an industry you patronize low consciousness and not say that's low consciousness behavior. Lots of pick up, porn watching and going out clubbing to pick up hot chicks and trying to get laid from strangers on this forum; but as soon as porn is mentioned everybody turns into the God in the sky. Can't just speak about what's happening, maybe try to understand why people do what they do and say hopefully one day, the porn industry might whatever......

This world has gone to the dogs, yes, and lots of people are engaging in activities that's probably not in their best interest. Doesn't mean we have to bash them. Spiritual work is about kindness and compassion. Understanding that everyone is consciousness awareness and some are just not there yet. People have their own battles and challenges to face in this world and bashing and criticizing and judging isn't the way to go from a higher point of view. Condoning is not the answer either, but it's so easy for people to sit on their high horses thinking they are better than anybody else because they meditate and do yoga.

Judging and criticizing is not in alignment with the higher power either. When we see people acting in ways that goes against what is aligned with their true nature, which btw is not selling sex, but being cruel, unkind, judgemental, condescending, thinking you're better than you are also acting in a low conscious manner. 

[mmKay]

45 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

#1 rule of marketing: 

Everything goes together with big tits.

You mentioned marketing.

Also know as the principle of Marketittyng

You can show a rack to a neardental high on fermented fruit and he'll have a similar strong emotional reaction than a modern dude

 

Edited October 10 by mmKay

[Princess Arabia]

9 hours ago, Pro24 said:

I even hate such girls.

This is what I'm talking about. Do you think you're any better than the people you hate. You're hating on females you don't even know and who did nothing to you directly. Whatever hang ups you're dealing with why you feel hatred for them has nothing to do with them. Nobody is saying anything about the fact that hate is a mind disease, and they will read your comment and let you rot the mind while continue to pass judgements. If this was such a self improvement forum, we should be trying to show you that hate isn't the way to go because that is not a so-called high conscious emotion. 

[Pro24]

57 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Do you think you're any better than the people you hate. 

Of course I am better than people I hate. I hate dark comedians, Andrew Tate, etc. If they were better than me, I'd be their student. 

59 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

hate isn't the way to go because that is not a so-called high conscious emotion. 

If 'hate' seems too strong, I'd say I 'dislike' them. I don't want to hate anyone—it only hurts my mind, not theirs.

Just like you dislike people you find idiotic, I also dislike them. Sister, if I see them trash-talking, being rude, or ignorant, why wouldn’t I dislike them? 

Maybe I shouldn’t have generalized. Some of them may not be idiots. 

Don't get offended. It's my POV. 

[Pro24]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

This forum is so judgemental. Don't forget your skeletons in your closets. If you watch porn, by your standards you are also low consciousness. Can't call an industry you patronize low consciousness and not say that's low consciousness behavior. 

I started this thread for discussing about the violence and torchure in the porn industry. I have lack of knowledge too that exactly what happens there. 

I didn't start this thread for discussing whether porn is good or bad, moral or immoral. It's very debatable. I don't want to go into that mess. 

I have no problem with porn. I watch a lot of soft porn, never in my life did I watch a single "hard" or violent porn. 

Porn is good or bad depends upon the situation. If the performers' human rights are violated, then it's a crime. If they are okay, then what's the problem? But the reality is that almost all of them are not okay (as far as I have read on Quora and watched on YouTube, I maybe wrong). 

If porn is already there and I get strong biological urges, why wouldn't I watch them? 

Intellectuals have said that prostitution/selling sex is bad. I thought they should be correct.

But I couldn't prove it to myself, and couldn't completely grasp it, that's why I haven't integrated it in my philosophy yet. I have so much to understand. 

Edited October 10 by Pro24

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Pro24 said:

Don't get offended. It's my POV.

I'm not offended. It's just easy to talk shit about people behind a computer screen and not knowing their situation. 

[Pro24]

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm not offended. It's just easy to talk shit about people behind a computer screen and not knowing their situation. 

If someone is bullshitting, their situation is not bad. They r ignorant.

Edit : I am talking about a ring girl I watched on yt. Not a porn performer. 

Edited October 10 by Pro24

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, Pro24 said:

I started this thread for discussing about the violence and torchure in the porn industry. I have lack of knowledge too that exactly what happens there. 

I didn't start this thread for discussing whether porn is good or bad, moral or immoral. It's very debatable. I don't want to go into that mess. 

I have no problem with porn. I watch a lot of soft porn, never in my life did I watch a single "hard" or violent porn. 

Porn is good or bad depends upon the situation. If the performers' human rights are violated, then it's a crime. If they are okay, then what's the problem? But the reality is that almost all of them are not okay (as far as I have read on Quora and watched on YouTube, I maybe wrong). 

If porn is already there and I get strong biological urges, why wouldn't I watch them? 

I understand.

[Pro24]

On 10/10/2024 at 9:26 PM, Pro24 said:

Porn is good or bad depends upon the situation. If the performers' human rights are violated, then it's a crime. If they are okay, then what's the problem? But the reality is that almost all of them are not okay. 

Who wants to show their intimate stuff to the world? To their family members and    (future) children? 

Many of them had to do porn because they wanted money. 

Many of them committed suicide and nobody knows them or talks about them. 

Many others do enjoy doing porn. 

 

Edited October 12 by Pro24

[Someone here]

@Pro24 Porn has absolutely nothing to do with real sex . Plus I don't think anybody with healthy brain cells will watch porn if he can fuck a real girl . 

Guys pleeeeeeease stop wanking your Johnson to illuminati and have real intimate sex with real girls . This is an absolute must .it's not a luxury. You as a man have been designed to fuck and dominate and rock the shit out of a feminine creature.

Wanking it to porn is such low quality activity. Having real sex is such a life-changing experience. It could literally lead to enlightenment. 

[MsNobody]

Because porn stars are dissociated from their bodies, the more anchored you are in the body the more sensitive you are. 

They are so desensitized and numb that they need violence to feel something, both the people who create and the ones watching. Also some people watch so much porn that they get accustomed to normal porn, the dopamine system ir already burnt, they need way more to get horny and feel aroused, so violent sex, rape sex, sex with animals and children come in. They just want to feel something, like a drug addict that needs a bigger dose cause they built tolerance. 

[Fadl]

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I love porn and I've never been violent.

You love porn? Which part?? 

[Princess Arabia]

10 hours ago, Pro24 said:

Who wants to show their intimate stuff to the world? To their family members and    (future) children? 

Many of them had to do porn because they wanted money. They were starving. 

Many of them committed suicide and nobody knows them or talks about them. 

I have empathy for them. 

They are so vulnerable to torchure and abuse. Especially because they can't even go to the police. 

There might be some porn companies that are not that bad. I dunno. 

 

Starving? I don't think so. If you think there aren't people out there who can get into these fields voluntarily without being in a position to do otherwise, you're kidding yourself. It's just that sometimes it's after, when the realize what they got themselves into or sometimes not. Some get in and out after making their $$ and move unto something else. Ever been to a swingers club. People are in there having sex with stranger's and switching partners. Ever heard of exhibitionists. People who get off from showing their privates to the public. Nude Beaches  exists, so yes, there are people who don't mind showing their privates to the public. Forget about the stories you've heard and all that abuse and stuff. They have porn conventions in Vegas every year and porn this and that that is fairly regular and operating as a regular business, so it's not all about abuse and exploitation. It's just the others don't make the news and no one cares. If you live in the ghetto and all you know is guns and violence and gang life, you'll think that's how the world is; if you were born in Beverly hills and hang around rich people everyday and always had your needs met etc, you'd think that's how the world is until you see otherwise. So, because you're watching those documentaries, you now think that's how every aspect in the porn industry, it's not. Just like anything else good news doesn't make the news. Why would a porn actress do an interview on how wonderful her life has been because of the industry. This is why the world has screwed us up because all it does is instill fear in us and makes us consumers, and shuts down our capacity to love. We're all walking around as fear mongers and now we project that unto the world and all we see is negativity.

Edited October 11 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Fadl said:

You love porn? Which part?? 

The part where they meditate and the girls do the yoga split.

[Sandhu]

I see a lot of survival bias at work here regarding sex work.

[How to be wise]

@MsNobody I have the opposite fetish, seeing the woman be rough with the man. 

[Emerald]

On 10/8/2024 at 5:41 PM, Leo Gura said:

Because only a dysfunctional and low consciousness human would be invovled in the porn industry.

Don't you watch porn?

If creating and selling porn is low conscious in your view, wouldn't watching porn also be low conscious behavior by the same metric?

Perhaps you're consistent and also believe that watching porn is low conscious behavior, even though you engage in it yourself.

But if not, this seems a bit inconsistent to me.

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Don't you watch porn?

If creating and selling porn is low conscious in your view, wouldn't watching porn also be low conscious behavior by the same metric?

Perhaps you're consistent and also believe that watching porn is low conscious behavior, even though you engage in it yourself.

But if not, this seems a bit inconsistent to me.

That's what I said too. This is why I pay humans no mind. They are not acting of their own free will and choice and will say things that contradicts. Including myself, so I'm not exempt. It's just funny to see and shows how not to take yourself and the world too seriously because it's filled with contradictions and makes no sense.

[Princess Arabia]

14 minutes ago, Emerald said:

Perhaps you're consistent and also believe that watching porn is low conscious behavior, even though you engage in it yourself.

He also used the word dysfunctional. So, if he agrees, he's agreeing to be dysfunctional.

Edited October 12 by Princess Arabia