How Do We Know That We Are Loved?

[Spiritual Warfare]

How do you know if you are loved? How does the other person treat you? Do they make you feel small and stupid, or interesting and accomplished? Do they support your ambitions or celebrate your failures? Do you trust them with an embarrassing secret? If you called them at 3 a.m. because you were stranded at a closed mall due to your own foolishness, would they come to get you?

[Princess Arabia]

If we love ourselves. We only get from people how we see ourselves.

Edited October 7, 2024 by Princess Arabia

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

If we love ourselves.

I'm talking about others. I don't want to hear about non-duality in this topic. Or do you mean that if we love ourselves, others will love us?

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

I'm talking about others. I don't want to hear about non-duality in this topic. Or do you mean that if we love ourselves, others will love us?

Yes, I'm not speaking about non-duality. If we love ourselves, we will see others love us back in proportion to that. We cannot expect from others what we haven't given to ourselves.

[Spiritual Warfare]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yes, I'm not speaking about non-duality. If we love ourselves, we will see others love us back in proportion to that. We cannot expect from others what we haven't given to ourselves.

I like the idea, but I don't think it's entirely true because there are many people who are confident and love themselves, which can make others jealous instead of giving them respect and love.

Edited October 7, 2024 by Spiritual Warfare

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

I like the idea, but I don't think it's entirely true because there are many people who are confident and love themselves, which can make others jealous instead of giving them respect.

I'm not referring to this. I'm not speaking about how others are being perceived by onlookers. I'm speaking about romantic relationships. Maybe be clear on what type of relationships you're referring to or just generally speaking. 

 Also, not showing respect to someone who shows love to themselves isn't a bug it's a feature because on the flip side what you're seeing is a case of how you react to that. How does that make you feel and does it diminish how you feel about yourself. You will double down on your self worth if their disrespect and jealousy doesn't  change how you feel about yourself and you understand that it's about them not you.

Idk, I don't look to be loved, I look to be love. Sorry if my words sound woo woo and all  but I cannot change who I am and my way of thinking and being is being reflected in my writings and it's just what's coming out. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm not referring to this. I'm not speaking about how others are being perceived by onlookers. I'm speaking about romantic relationships. Maybe be clear on what type of relationships you're referring to or just generally speaking. 

 Also, not showing respect to someone who shows love to themselves isn't a bug it's a feature because on the flip side what you're seeing is a case of how you react to that. How does that make you feel and does it diminish how you feel about yourself. You will double down on your self worth if their disrespect and jealousy doesn't  change how you feel about yourself and you understand that it's about them not you.

Idk, I don't look to be loved, I look to be love. Sorry if my words sound woo woo and all  but I cannot change who I am and my way of thinking and being is being reflected in my writings and it's just what's coming out. 

I believe you must love yourself first in order to love others. You can't give love if you feel like you're not receiving love in return. It's important that both things are present, not just one. It becomes healthier and more genuine that way.

[Princess Arabia]

31 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I believe you must love yourself first in order to love others. You can't give love if you feel like you're not receiving love in return. It's important that both things are present, not just one. It becomes healthier and more genuine that way.

Right, you can't give what you don't have.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

Right, you can't give what you don't have.

You have it, but you haven't activated it (;

[Yimpa]

1 hour ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

How do you know if you are loved?

Psychedelics. But many would consider that cheating. And it’s difficult to love a cheater.

[Beans]

4 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Psychedelics. But many would consider that cheating. And it’s difficult to love a cheater.

I don't understand how it equates to/with cheating

[Spiritual Warfare]

8 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Psychedelics. But many would consider that cheating. And it’s difficult to love a cheater.

Love is complex, but so are hallucinations.

Edited October 7, 2024 by Spiritual Warfare

[Beans]

1 hour ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

How do you know if you are loved? How does the other person treat you? Do they make you feel small and stupid, or interesting and accomplished? Do they support your ambitions or celebrate your failures? Do you trust them with an embarrassing secret? If you called them at 3 a.m. because you were stranded at a closed mall due to your own foolishness, would they come to get you?

Love is a feeling of mutual understanding 

it’s not all bound to ego or how good they make you feel. To love someone is to say “okay” to challenges you normally wouldn’t. It also doesn’t necessarily mean you have to accept them either. That’s more of each partner’s choice. The difference is you are actively choosing, communicating, and rotating the table. You grow together. I think it’s important to see if the room is fruitful before baring any fruit. Meaning it’s important to look at the location before planting a tree. So these are questions that are necessary to ask, but ultimately no one is perfect. And I think personally people are usually stuck on this whole idealism of a “perfect man” or a “perfect woman” that’s not love. It’s a superficial idea of what it is. Shit happens, constantly. Regardless of it being due to your own fault, or the universe causing something out of the blue happening. Sometimes someone will come to help you, majority of the time you are left on your own. So it’s important choosing someone who would choose you, even in an unfavorable situation.   
 

[Spiritual Warfare]

7 minutes ago, Beans said:

Love is a feeling of mutual understanding 

it’s not all bound to ego or how good they make you feel. To love someone is to say “okay” to challenges you normally wouldn’t. It also doesn’t necessarily mean you have to accept them either. That’s more of each partner’s choice. The difference is you are actively choosing, communicating, and rotating the table. You grow together. I think it’s important to see if the room is fruitful before baring any fruit. Meaning it’s important to look at the location before planting a tree. So these are questions that are necessary to ask, but ultimately no one is perfect. And I think personally people are usually stuck on this whole idealism of a “perfect man” or a “perfect woman” that’s not love. It’s a superficial idea of what it is. Shit happens, constantly. Regardless of it being due to your own fault, or the universe causing something out of the blue happening. Sometimes someone will come to help you, majority of the time you are left on your own. So it’s important choosing someone who would choose you, even in an unfavorable situation.   
 

That's a great comment, but how do we know who would choose it? Is it possible to love someone without fully understanding or accepting their true nature?

[Beans]

1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

That's a great comment, but how do we know who would choose it? Is it possible to love someone without fully understanding or accepting their true nature?

Watch their actions. 
people can say they choose you, but ultimately words fail. And their motives are shown through actions. It’s also important to learn about their true nature before hand, and to understand how it makes them who they are. Showing up for you unexpectedly is a good sign. It’s not mandatory, but someone who loves you would. Consideration is key. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

17 minutes ago, Beans said:

Watch their actions. 
people can say they choose you, but ultimately words fail. And their motives are shown through actions. It’s also important to learn about their true nature before hand, and to understand how it makes them who they are. Showing up for you unexpectedly is a good sign. It’s not mandatory, but someone who loves you would. Consideration is key. 

You’re absolutely right! Actions speak louder than words.

Edited October 7, 2024 by Spiritual Warfare

[Javfly33]

no one loves you in this game, is all transactional

[Spiritual Warfare]

4 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

no one loves you in this game, is all transactional

Hard game.

[Yimpa]

1 hour ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Hard game.

I prefer to play on Legendary 

[Spiritual Warfare]

6 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

I prefer to play on Legendary 

Is it possible to learn this power?