Guys! Most Of Your Beliefs About Women Are False

[Leo Gura]

@Princess Arabia Good.

Consider how you would feel if you undressed and man didn't get hard for you.

So a man needs to figure that out long before he sees you undressed. For your sake.

But also, it's much deeper than just getting hard. Getting hard for a one night stand is easy. But liking a girl enough to want to see her long-term is much harder. And it's not so easy for a man to decide that. Often it's not clear.

Edited October 8 by Leo Gura

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

@Princess Arabia Good.

Consider how you would feel if you undressed and man didn't get hard for you.

So a man needs to figure that out long before he sees you undressed. For your sake.

I don't know about for my sake😛Plenty of drunk men can't get it up. I get what you're saying.

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

I don't know about for my sake😛Plenty of drunk men can't get it up. I get what you're saying.

But imagine if he's not drunk but looks at you and still doesn't get it up.

How would you feel?

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

But imagine if he's not drunk but looks at you and still doesn't get it up.

How would you feel?

Not sure, never had that happen. 

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Not sure, never had that happen. 

Yeah, it's something assumed and taken for granted by girls:

"Of course all guys will get hard for me!"

Edited October 8 by Leo Gura

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

But also, it's much deeper than just getting hard. Getting hard for a one night stand is easy. But liking a girl enough to want to see her long-term is much harder. And it's not so easy for a man to decide that. Often it's not clear.

Are you saying here that he needs to be so attracted because after the initial lust thing wears off and he gets used to you, he needs to know he can still get hard even if he loves you as love has nothing to do with attraction. Is he thinking that long-term about this, if that's what you're saying.

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Are you saying here that he needs to be so attracted because after the initial lust thing wears off and he gets used to you, he needs to know he can still get hard even if he loves you as love has nothing to do with attraction. Is he thinking that long-term about this, if that's what you're saying.

Any guy is cool with almost any girl for a one night stand. But then deciding to commit to her is a whole nother matter because that requires a much higher quality of girl. If you want that commitment -- which all girls do -- then that's a huge investment for a guy to make. It's like renting a car vs buying a house.

Guys highly value freedom. To convince a guy to surrender his freedom for one girl requires a special kind of girl. It's not worth doing with an average girl because he can rent 20 average girls with no strings attached.

If I was cool with low quality girls I would just go to Thailand with $5000 and get 10 of them.

Edited October 8 by Leo Gura

[r0ckyreed]

Very insightful post. I forget how good I have it as a man. But it is nice to have a woman approach as well. My perspective is that someone approaching me makes me feel like I am seen. Whereas when I approach, it makes me feel like I am desperate or that I am invisible to women. Like I have to talk to her first in order for her to talk to me.

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yeah, it's something assumed and taken for granted by girls.

That's because we don't have any equipments that needs performance. Getting wet is also not necessary for sex to happen either. Neither sexes really understand the depth of what it really means to be a particular sex, I guess  that's why I hear so many misconceptions on the men's part. They don't take me seriously when I oppose, though, and say we don't know ourselves, or we just don't get men or something like that. It's very rare I see a male on here genuinely caring about how we feel and ask us questions. They are usually asking other men and taking other men's advice over the ladies. The one's that do ask, I can tell even before that, that they were the type to care just from how they interact on the forum. @CARDOZZOis one amongst others. Davino is another. Breakinthewall to. It's easy to spot a sensitive man who cares about what women really like and whose just not about himself even just from online interactions. Luvboy too. 

[Princess Arabia]

10 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

Very insightful post. I forget how good I have it as a man. But it is nice to have a woman approach as well. My perspective is that someone approaching me makes me feel like I am seen. Whereas when I approach, it makes me feel like I am desperate or that I am invisible to women. Like I have to talk to her first in order for her to talk to me.

That's a feminine perspective. You haven't integrated your masculine side. Masculine men don't have this problem. If they do, it's not just in this area and carries over unto other self insecurity issues. Just like how a woman doesn't feel comfortable approaching, it's a masculine trait that should empower a man not demasculate him. Has nothing to do with rejection because no one likes that but the hurt of a rejection isn't going to stop a masculine man from approaching something that he sees and wants or make him feel desperate. Those are the things the feminine feels. Your feminine side overpowers your masculine side. 

Edited October 8 by Princess Arabia

[Davino]

The main problem with understanding the other gender is that you'll be understanding the system from the outside. Lately I try to tap into feminine consciousness and it works temporarily. I connect with my girl side and explore it.

Yet I won't be able to get pregnant, create a life in me for nine months and birth it into existence, give it sustenance and care for many years to come. That's what really boggles me, how is that like?

My woman inside me would love to have that experience. However, I'm in a male body so no thanks, not interested in children

[Leo Gura]

51 minutes ago, Davino said:

The main problem with understanding the other gender is that you'll be understanding the system from the outside.

Yup! Great insight.

Time to drink that soy milk

Edited October 8 by Leo Gura

[Davino]

57 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yup! Great insight.

It was a great revelation when reading your blog post. I was like oh wow that's why it's so freaking hard, my dick always gets in the way of pure feminine understanding

[Ash55]

18 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

have it easy

We only have it easy on pornhub loool

 

18 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

feeling based and are attracted to a guy's personality more

I really only date girls if the look+ personality is my type
i really care about the personality, i dont care about so called 9/10 i want someone that i really loves and connect with
and if i knew sleeping with this girl gonna be one night stand my answer gonna be probably no i dont want that (maybe am shooting my self in the foot with that since relationship can develop after sex), am quit picky now but am very tolerant on many aspects of the looks, but my most important priority is compatibility and long term fulfillment, i think everybody struggled with that even tho if they succeeded

[mmKay]

3 hours ago, Davino said:

The main problem with understanding the other gender is that you'll be understanding the system from the outside. 

Yeah but understanding it from the outside is also part of understanding the whole. You can't have a full picture just from the inside. You need contrast and multiple perspectives.

Understanding it from the inside comes with inherent blind spots. Just like asking women for dating advice or what do they want from a guy will give partial or misleading answers, because women don't have experience attracting women.

But they do have access to a different experience which is not often explored by men because it's not required for getting laid, its not " useful" in pragmatic terms.

 

In terms of our work I'd argue than understanding from the outside is more accurate and valuable than from the inside. We don't need or want to experience  everything, cognitive understanding is good enough.

In terms of the Universe, it prefers to experience , through incarnation from the inside.

The universe ain't in a rush

Edited October 8 by mmKay

[Davino]

@mmKay You raise good points in the beginning but I disagree with your preference for outside understanding.

How is someone from the outside gonna understand better than you how it is to be yourself?

The intimacy and directness is invaluable. Self bias gets in the way but you have something to be biased about your first hand experience. While the other way around you only have second hand experience/observation which may be even more biased and filtered; like what others say about who you are.

[StaraX]

@Princess Arabia I'd actually say that women have it a lot easier than men—not in life, but definitely in dating. The only time you could say men have it easier is for the top 20% of men in terms of value, meaning men with high social status or fame. But for the average guy, it's ridiculously hard to find a woman, let alone women who are 8s, 9s, or 10s. As a woman, you don't have to 'study' to get laid, whereas most men need to invest years to become good with women.

Of course, none of this is the fault of women—they're not to blame—but there's no way in hell anyone could believe that women have it harder or that dating is equally challenging. In addition, women don't have a powerful hormone called testosterone that much, which dominates a man's psyche and creates several issues if sexual needs are not met. The biggest challenge for a woman is finding a quality guy who is above her and getting commitment from him. But again, it's foolish to claim that women have it equally hard just because they struggle to find a high-value guy.

If men didn't have it harder, we wouldn't have seen the rise of incel ideology, black pill ideology, red pill ideology, Andrew Tate, etc., on this scale. Again, women are not to blame—just pointing out the reality of the situation.

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, StaraX said:

@Princess Arabia I'd actually say that women have it a lot easier than men—not in life, but definitely in dating. The only time you could say men have it easier is for the top 20% of men in terms of value, meaning men with high social status or fame. But for the average guy, it's ridiculously hard to find a woman, let alone women who are 8s, 9s, or 10s. As a woman, you don't have to 'study' to get laid, whereas most men need to invest years to become good with women.

Of course, none of this is the fault of women—they're not to blame—but there's no way in hell anyone could believe that women have it harder or that dating is equally challenging. In addition, women don't have a powerful hormone called testosterone that much, which dominates a man's psyche and creates several issues if sexual needs are not met. The biggest challenge for a woman is finding a quality guy who is above her and getting commitment from him. But again, it's foolish to claim that women have it equally hard just because they struggle to find a high-value guy.

If men didn't have it harder, we wouldn't have seen the rise of incel ideology, black pill ideology, red pill ideology, Andrew Tate, etc., on this scale. Again, women are not to blame—just pointing out the reality of the situation.

It is not the reality of the situation. Just because incels are on the rise doesn't prove a thing. There are other factors involved . Study these incels and you will see other emotional problems or other factors at play. I've seen how some men find it easy to get women and some women are having a hard time. The problem is some guys don't understand that women get approached, yes, but that's the easy part. So what. Consider that some of these approaches are from married men, men who already have gfs, men who are unstable, men who don't really want them just approaching to feel manly and more....men are always looking at and admiring women and trying to talk but do you realize half these men are already taken then the other half aren't compatible and the other quarter are...you name it. I'm tired of explaining this. Men just don't understand. On both ends of the spectrum, it's a challenge. Also can be easy for both. It's just not an automatic thing that women have it easier. The only easy women have is to get laid that's it, because most men will be willing. She goes up the street and can get laid by any stranger if she looks good and sometimes even if she doesn't. And i'm saying this if she's looking to by anyone. Women aren't normally like that. We're not just looking to get laid like most men are. This has blinded most men to really grasp what I'm trying to communicate. You think we are the same in that regard. Women are having problems finding bfs too not getting laid. Incels are trying to get laid.

[Bjorn K Holmstrom]

I sense that many people have issues because of the binary way of thinking they apply to reality. Dividing into high/low, worthy/unworthy, attractive/non-attractive. It is possible to be and relate to people without using these filters so judiciously, is all I'm saying. 

[Lyubov]

I believe also that women have it much easier when it comes to dating in a certain way. I am not disregarding the nuance of this dimension of life however and do know women face many challenges as well. I've had this discussion a lot with my ex and I could see that from her perspective as a pretty girl, she has put zero effort into actually understanding the opposite sex, very minimal compared to what most men have to do to make themselves competitive in dating. I know perspective matters a lot here so some of my wording may not be agreeable for all of you. It's just what I've noticed. If you are a cute girl you have a ton of options, no guarantee any of them will lead to committing, or be the one you wish would commit. I don't really have any advice for women. I only wish many of them would take the time to understand men a bit more, but this is not something women usually spend time doing. You would be very hard pressed to find a beautiful woman who actually wanted to understand her man, very rare quality in a woman who does this.