Playlist For Understanding Israel Deception

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Edited January 18 by Raze

[Raze]

45 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

I often feel like the pro-Palestinian perspective justifies their low-consciousness behavior and accepts their dysfunctionality simply because they believe they are right.

But you could make the same argument about Israelis.

In a 1998 poll 76% of Israelis believed shabeh was torture, but only 27% were against its use on Palestinians 

https://www.jstor.org/stable/40358554

After a video was released showing six IDF using a metal Rod to gang rape a palestinian prisoner, multiple Israeli politicians expressed support for the soldiers and Israeli’s protested to free them after their arrest, a poll later found 65% of Israeli’s didn’t want the rapists criminally prosecuted 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2q07kd3ld6o

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/08/65-of-israeli-jews-oppose-criminal-prosecution-for-soldiers-suspected-of-raping-palestinian-detainees/

and 59% of Israelis say social media posts expressing sympathy for Palestinian civilians should not be allowed 

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/08/26/many-israelis-say-social-media-content-about-the-israel-hamas-war-should-be-censored/

And when a IDF soldier shot a Palestinian teenager in the back he was honored with a medal

https://archive.ph/ry9kG

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Flashback: Friday morning, July 3, 2015, Qalandiyah checkpoint in the West Bank. The traffic moves slowly. A Palestinian teenager approaches the car of Binyamin Brigade commander Col. Yisrael Shomer, hurls a large rock into the windshield and flees. No one was hurt. The future honorary doctor's blood boils; he gets out of his car and gives chase.

The brigade commander fires three bullets from a range of six to seven meters into the back of the fleeing boy, who falls bleeding and dies soon afterward in the hospital. The death penalty for throwing a rock. Before speeding away, the brigade commander took the time to turn over his victim's body with his foot to check his condition, the way one turns over a dead animal, without calling for medical help.

Or in 2015 when Israelis fire bombed a home of Palestinian civilians killing an 18 month old named Ali and his two parents

Then when Ali’s grandfather was leaving the Court Israelis chanted at him

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"Where's Ali? There's no Ali. Ali is burned. On the fire. Ali is on the grill"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack

then Israelis had a wedding celebrating it where the current police minister was present

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In December 2015, Israeli police began investigating a video of a Jewish wedding in Jerusalem celebrating the marriage of a person known to have been involved in price tag attacks, in which guests are shown stabbing a photo of the toddler, Ali Dawabsheh, who had died in the Duma arson attack. The same video contained scenes of guests, armed with guns, knives and Molotov cocktails, chanting a song with the words from the book of Judges (16:28), "O God, that I may be this once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes", replacing "Philistines" with "Palestinians".[77] A lawyer for the defendants in the case, Attorney Itamar Ben-Gvir, now Minister of National Security, was also present and later said "No one realized these were photos of a member of the Dawabsheh family" - talking of the toddler photo which was stabbed and then burnt by wedding guests. Such scenes are reported to be typical of many such weddings.

 

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[Lila9]

2 minutes ago, Raze said:

But you could make the same argument about Israelis.

In a 1998 poll 76% of Israelis believed shabeh was torture, but only 27% were against its use on Palestinians 

https://www.jstor.org/stable/40358554

After a video was released showing six IDF using a metal Rod to gang rape a palestinian prisoner, multiple Israeli politicians expressed support for the soldiers and Israeli’s protested to free them, a poll later found 65% of Israeli’s didn’t want the rapists criminally prosecuted 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2q07kd3ld6o

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/08/65-of-israeli-jews-oppose-criminal-prosecution-for-soldiers-suspected-of-raping-palestinian-detainees/

and 59% of Israelis say social media posts expressing sympathy for Palestinian civilians should not be allowed 

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/08/26/many-israelis-say-social-media-content-about-the-israel-hamas-war-should-be-censored/

And when a IDF soldier shot a Palestinian teenager in the back he was honored with a medal

https://archive.ph/ry9kG

 

It is cruel to rape anyone, no matter what they have done, and there is no justification for it. What those IDF individuals did was truly stupid and cruel.

Israelis were dramatically radicalized after October 7, no doubt. 

Yet, based on the statistics you’ve shared, 35% of Israelis do want the rapists to be criminally prosecuted, and 41% of Israelis do believe that social media posts expressing sympathy for Palestinians should be allowed.

If these surveys were conducted before October 7, the percentages were likely even higher.

What if we conducted the same survey in Gaza and the West Bank? What results might we receive? Can we expect the same level of empathy? Would it be lower or higher?

 

[RendHeaven]

27 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

It is cruel to rape anyone, no matter what they have done, and there is no justification for it. What those IDF individuals did was truly stupid and cruel.

I can't bring myself to demonize them because I kinda get it.

They're just as ugly as me. Except I got lucky with my environment.

It hurts twice as bad, empathizing with victim and victimizer simultaneously.

Every time I contemplate our human condition I'm picking up shattered fragments of my heart

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@Lila9 hey welcome 

[Lila9]

9 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

@Lila9 hey welcome 

Thank you ❤️

[Lila9]

41 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:

I can't bring myself to demonize them because I kinda get it.

They're just as ugly as me. Except I got lucky with my environment.

It hurts twice as bad, empathizing with victim and victimizer simultaneously.

Every time I contemplate our human condition I'm picking up shattered fragments of my heart

I understand.

[Twentyfirst]

10 hours ago, Lila9 said:

 
This thread gives the impression that the Palestinian perspective is intact of delusions, corruption, manipulation.

One may have been heavily manipulated by the Palestinian point of view but he will never know that. 

Where were your grandparents or parents born? What about the grandparents or parents of your fellow Israeli friends. Where were they born?

Now ask Palestinians the same question 

 

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Zionist trying to deny the right of return using word salad 

[Yimpa]

9 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

the right of return

The right have returned all right…

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29 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

The right have returned all right…

Using word salad

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The deception here is that if you are zionist you can't be a nazi even though both groups hate Jews. Their goals of emptying Europe of its Jewish population aligned. They are also both racist, supremacist and colonial ideologies.

 

Edited January 22 by Twentyfirst