Leo Gura

Playlist For Understanding Israel Deception

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The deception here is that if you are zionist you can't be a nazi even though both groups hate Jews. Their goals of emptying Europe of its Jewish population aligned. They are also both racist, supremacist and colonial ideologies.

 

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Interview with an Arab Jew from Israel, very critical of Zionism, and what it meant for his real roots. He opposes the usual argument that Arabs kicked Jews from their countries, but that it was something the Zionists wanted, sought, and provoked in every way they could. He also discusses more recent events.

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How do you find Zionist deception? When something just doesn't make sense 

 

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20 hours ago, Raze said:

 

At 0:00:06 in this video you already understand their level of maturity.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

At 0:00:06 in this video you already understand their level of maturity.

Omer Bartov, one of the most respected holocaust historians, and Mark Levene, one of the most respected genocide scholars agree with them. And others like Raz Segal and Amos Goldberg. Amnesty international has a 500 page report of evidence. 

If they are too immature then everyone is. 

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7 hours ago, Raze said:

Omer Bartov, one of the most respected holocaust historians, and Mark Levene, one of the most respected genocide scholars agree with them. And others like Raz Segal and Amos Goldberg. Amnesty international has a 500 page report of evidence. 

If they are too immature then everyone is. 

The 1948 Genocide Convention defines genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".  This definition is really vague and can be applied to pretty much any war.

I don't really want to go down a semantic and academic debate of different genocides but it's clear that this term has been hatefully weaponized against Israel, largely because of the atrocities committed in WW2 against the Jewish people.

Assad had murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people and the general public hardly cared. I say this as somebody who disagrees with a lot of the things that Israel does, but to call it a genocide is way out of line in my opinion. Words are just words, but they can carry heavy political weight, and to casually weaponize a term like that reveals a lack of seriousness and objectivity in my opinion.

As much as I hate this war, I see a ton of anti-semitism basically saying that Israel should just lay down its arms and die.  It has a right to defend itself and is surrounded by enemies, I don't know of any similarly precarious geopolitical situation in history.  I personally think they've been reckless with targeting but I am no expert and fighting an urban war is probably the hardest terrain on which one can fight.

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19 hours ago, Raze said:

Omer Bartov, one of the most respected holocaust historians, and Mark Levene, one of the most respected genocide scholars agree with them. And others like Raz Segal and Amos Goldberg. Amnesty international has a 500 page report of evidence. 

If they are too immature then everyone is. 

Respected is a relative notion. By who?

"One of the most respected psychiatrist, who is also the most respected professor in Harvard ... agree with the Pharmacuetical companies ..."

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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