Leo Gura

Playlist For Understanding Israel Deception

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On 15/12/2024 at 11:02 PM, Raze said:

Still she has a massive fan base of conservatives, any criticism at all of Israel was unheard of on right wing outlets, now this video has 4 million views on YouTube and even more on other platforms. It is an example of a major shift in public opinion caused by unrestrained media. 

Yeah, I think it’s fine to share interesting and valid messages despite the messenger not being up to par. Dan Bilzerian going at it is also signals a major shift.

This situation of a political apparatus being held hostage by a foreign nation has been known but suppressed since a while:

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https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP88T00988R000100090004-9.pdf


This doesn’t mean Israel can be entirely blamed for US foreign policy as US have their own interests also. It’s a symbiotic relationship - with plenty of deception involved - but it seems theres more deception from Israel than the other way round.

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@zazen this part is crazy. They knew the fall of Saddam would bring a Shia Iran-aligned Iraq and that it would be part of a new “contagion” that they can leverage to make the Arab nations become friendlier with Israel in the face of this new Shia influence in the region. 
 

It’s crazy because they gaslit the public that the fall of Saddam would bring democracy and freedom, whereas they knew it would bring a religious “radical” and “disruptive” force. It’s also crazy because Netanyahu said fall of Saddam would bring positive change that would reverberate throughout the region whereas they knew it would create more problems, especially in terms of Iran and the Levant. And they wanted to capitalize on that—what they describe as a new contagion. 

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https://archive.ph/O8rGB
 

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We identified five groups of soldiers based on personality traits. 1. A small Callous group was composed of ruthless soldiers, some of whom confessed to violence before the draft. These soldiers committed most of the severe atrocities. The power they received in the army was intoxicating: "It's like a drug ... you feel like you are the law, you make the rules. As if from the moment you leave the place called Israel and enter the Gaza Strip, you are God." They viewed brutality as an expression of strength and masculinity.

"I have no problem with women. One threw a slipper at me, so I gave her a kick here (pointing to the groin), broke all this here. She can't have children today."

"X shot an Arab four times in the back and got away with a self-defense claim. Four bullets in the back from a distance of ten meters ... cold-blooded murder. We did things like that every day."

"An Arab just walked down the street, about 25 years old, didn't throw a stone, nothing. Bang, a bullet in the stomach. Shot him in the stomach, and he was dying on the sidewalk, and we drove away indifferently."

These soldiers were remorseless and did not report moral injury. Some of them were convicted by military courts. They felt bitter and betrayed.

2. A small, ideologically violent group supported the brutality without taking part. They believed in Jewish supremacy and were derogatory toward Arabs. Moral injuries were not reported in this group.

3. A small incorruptible group opposed the influence of the callous and ideological groups on the company's culture. Initially intimidated by brutal commanders, they later took a moral stand and went on to report the atrocities to the division commander. Following discharge, most of them viewed their service as meaningful and strengthening. However, one whistle blower was severely harassed and ostracized, and it was necessary to move him to another unit. He was traumatized, depressed and left the country following discharge.

4. A large group of followers consisted of soldiers with no prior inclination to violence. Their behavior was most influenced by junior officers' modeling and the company's norms. Some followers who committed atrocities reported moral injuries: "I felt like, like, like a Nazi ... it looked exactly like we were actually the Nazis and they were the Jews."

5. The restrained was a large group of inner-directed soldiers who maintained military standards and did not commit atrocities. They responded to Palestinian violence and life-threatening situations in balanced and legally justified ways. They did not report moral injuries.

In each of the companies, an internal culture developed that was largely shaped by junior commanders and charismatic soldiers. Initially, the norms instigated atrocities.

"A new commander came to us. We went out with him on the first patrol at six in the morning. He stops. There's not a soul in the streets, just a little 4-year-old boy playing in the sand in his yard. The commander suddenly starts running, grabs the boy, and breaks his arm at the elbow and his leg here. Stepped on his stomach three times and left. We all stood there with our mouths open. Looking at him in shock ... I asked the commander: "What's your story?" He told me: These kids need to be killed from the day they are born. When a commander does that, it becomes legit."

 

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