Playlist For Understanding Israel Deception

[Nemra]

33 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

There is also a Arte doc on Hamas etc. but haven’t watched it yet.

I know. I already shared it in another thread.

[Karmadhi]

https://www.instagram.com/emilyintelaviv/?hl=en

Are you guys familiar with this person?

I have seen her at Piers Morgan show a few times, found her a massive liar and then went through her instagram to research.

I am genuinely baffled how someone that never went through any hardships in their life can be so full of hate and evil.

90% of what she says regarding this conflict is propaganda.

And she seems to believe it herself.

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[Nemra]

Civil unrest in Israel:

 

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Civil unrest in Israel:

 

Arte is such a cool channel/project honestly.

French + German channel and having a lot of great programms, docs, artsy stuff. Been watching their stuff for decades m.

[Nemra]

@PurpleTree, I found them like a year ago but forgot to explore their programms. They are really great. They have a postmodern vibe that I like. 😁

Edited October 21, 2024 by Nemra

[Nemra]

The treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank:

 

[Vercingetorix]

 

If Israel will try this i believe they will be mascaraed sadly but good try

[Nemra]

Wow. AI movies are coming, I guess.

[Karmadhi]

 

Mossad Agent openly threatening Western politicians that they will "fall" if they stop supporting Israel (starts minute 38 of the video).

When Cenk pushes him on the issue, he remains silent and gives a half ass answer.

@Leo Gura 

Edited October 21, 2024 by Karmadhi

[Leo Gura]

@Karmadhi That guy is like a Borat character.

[Leo Gura]

 

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[Gennadiy1981]

On 10/18/2024 at 8:28 AM, Leo Gura said:

It is very conscious by the settlers.

It's insane that Zionists put up all these rationalizations and excuses, but totally ignore talking about the 750,000 settlers in the West Bank and their daily expansion efforts. And also the settlers now planning to colonize Gaza. And the fact that this is all supported by the top of the government.

So it is no accident. This is extremely deliberate, but with a bunch of rationalizations, excuses, fantasies, and hand-waving around it.

The Nahkba was also not accidental, it was methodically executed.

Just listen to interviews with the settlers. They tell you explicitly what they want. There is no mystery here.

If ethnic cleansing wasn't happening there would be no settlers, no settlements, no outposts, and no government support for such things.

You know I am reading your posts and keep fascinating, you totally lost on this one, and the more you research the more you dive into fantasy land. You are a very smart person, genius when it comes to epistemology, mysticism and Philosophy, but on Israel you totally lost it, and got to a point that you radicalized yourself on it. I am not here to convince you but to point out your flaws on it.

To make long story short, we are not ethnically clean anyone, we came to get what is rightfully hours by religious and historical rights. We also purchased those lands in early twentieth century. What you call West Bank is also ours, it was, is and will always be. You seem to be ok that Jews were expelled from Arab countries but we that lived what you call West Bank, should vacate. You are the one living in Nevada by the way which was mostly inhabited by many Indian Tribes, but it’s ok you ethnically cleansed them fair and square and took their land, and you have no issues about it. Fine I give it to you. 
https://nevadasindianterritory.com/

And finally about Gaza, it was always ours and we lived there. So the question for us to settle is not if but rather of when. Don’t worry we will get back there. We are only claiming what’s ours. I am not claiming Jordan or Syria or Egypt, nor do we plan to settle those lands nor do we even try. But what’s ours is ours. When you leave Nevada and relocate to a place of your origin then we can talk about us relocating to our origins. 

[Leo Gura]

@Gennadiy1981 Your bias is so cartoonish.

What did you think this work was about? You thought we would do truth-seeking and in the end your Jewish fantasies would get excepted, preserved, and served? You think that being a Jew is like an island in the middle of an ocean of self-deception? No. It is the ocean, the self-deception, just like everything else humans do. Only now when the rubber meets the road, when all the philosophy finally makes contact with your living reality, now you plead special exception. Now Leo is biased. Leo was great right up until he deconstructed my Jewishness.

This work was never about preserving your self.

Truth is a dagger in your Zionist heart. That's no mistake. That's the whole point! The problem is that you assumed truth would validate you. Instead truth reveals you to be a monster. That's no mistake, that's the truth. The point of our work was to make you conscious and open enough to accept your monstrosity.

Edited October 22, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Novac08]

@Leo Gura I genuinely find @Gennadiy1981's point to be quite thought-provoking.

Why focus so heavily on Israel when you reside on land that was also taken from its original inhabitants? What's stopping you from returning your land to the indigenous people who still want it and from whom it was stolen not too long ago?

I'm asking this not to provoke, but to understand why there's such a focus on something largely beyond your control while a similar issue closer to home seems to be avoided.

Edited October 22, 2024 by Novac08

[Nemra]

2 hours ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

We are only claiming what’s ours. I am not claiming Jordan or Syria or Egypt, nor do we plan to settle those lands nor do we even try.

Why are you limiting yourself?

Jews once lived elsewhere before living in the lands of now what is called Israel or Palestine.

Edited October 22, 2024 by Nemra

[Leo Gura]

23 minutes ago, Novac08 said:

Why focus so heavily on Israel

Because they are killing 40,000 civilians, 15,000 children, 75 years of ongoing and continuing ethnic cleansing, dragging the Middle East and the USA into war with Iran, corrupting the US government, and creating global terrorism.

The better question, why are you distracting from the obvious with irrelevancies and whataboutisms?

Edited October 22, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Novac08]

@Leo Gura

It makes sense when you put it that way, and I can understand your perspective better now.

That said, I take issue with the idea that this is irrelevant or a whataboutism. Like you, I live in the southwest USA. I worked in a government agency that began every committee meeting with an acknowledgement of stolen land. I even managed a team with a native colleague who openly viewed us as invaders. These experiences often left me wondering if the truly ethical response would be to find a way to return to Europe, despite my family having been in the Americas for 3+ generations. So, for me, these questions don’t feel irrelevant—they speak to broader moral dilemmas that I continue to wrestle with.

As for Israel/Palestine, it has always struck me as a deeply entrenched conflict between two groups unwilling to accept each other's presence. It feels distant and complex, much like other regions of high conflict, such as parts of Africa. However, I do understand your point about U.S. involvement with Israel and Iran, and I agree that the U.S. should not support this kind of brutality or be dragged into WW3.