Playlist For Understanding Israel Deception

[Bobby_2021]

Shite, got scammed again by IDF chicks in bikins fr.

[Rafael Thundercat]

 

 

 

[Raze]

 

[Bobby_2021]

 

Edited October 17 by Bobby_2021

[Bobby_2021]

Guys this is a great thread made for a specific thing and it is an invaluable resource. Please post the news related elsewhere. Thanks.

[Vercingetorix]

@Leo Gura What are your claims exactly? That Israel's plan all along was to ethnic cleanse the Arabs from the country? That after 7th of October Israel's plan is to genocide the Palestinians? or that it was their plan all along?

How do you explain that Israeli doctor found and removed cancer from Sinwar while he was in prison in Israel?

[Raze]

 

[Leo Gura]

Please post breaking news in the other thread.

This thread is for more deep-dive videos, not particularly news.

Edited October 17 by Leo Gura

[PurpleTree]

1 hour ago, Raze said:

 

I thought sky news is in full support of Israel.

wild 🦭

[Leo Gura]

6 hours ago, Vercingetorix said:

What are your claims exactly? That Israel's plan all along was to ethnic cleanse the Arabs from the country? That after 7th of October Israel's plan is to genocide the Palestinians? or that it was their plan all along?

The plan is to take as much Palestinian land as possible through a gradual process that slips under the radar of the international community.

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How do you explain that Israeli doctor found and removed cancer from Sinwar while he was in prison in Israel?

It's a complex situation, not a cartoon villain.

The doctors who attend to prisoners are not the politicians who design ethnic cleansing policy.

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[Raze]

 

[Etherial Cat]

 

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[Bobby_2021]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

slips under the radar of the international community.

Now that the international community is well aware of it, we have to wait and watch how long are they able to continue this. 

 

[PhilBen]

I've been watching the videos shared here, and it has been quite transformative. I grew up in a Jewish community here in Brazil, and basically, the only narrative I heard throughout my childhood and adolescence was the traditional Zionist one. The exercise of investigating self-bias and self-deception has been special.

Especially on the topic of whether or not it is an ethnic cleansing project, I found those two texts, and I’m curious about what you all think of these counterpoints. The first is from an Israeli soldier, and the second is from a left-wing Zionist (so I'm aware of bias risk):

https://adin1664.medium.com/there-was-no-zionist-ethnic-cleansing-plan-in-1948-320b53aeb856

https://x.com/Fathom_Editor/status/1800529146759782760

It seems to me that Zionists are very insistent on making these theoretical distinctions between apartheid, colonialism, ethnic cleansing, and genocide. And that makes sense to me, but I know that, in general, these distinctions have been used to hide atrocities, ignore Palestinian suffering, and deny its direct connection to terrorism against Israel. What has been revealed to me so far is that it is much more of an unconscious ethnic cleansing project carried out by Jews who were desperate for security than a consciously designed plan to expel Arabs. What do you guys think after reading both texts? 

Edited October 18 by PhilBen

[Leo Gura]

22 minutes ago, PhilBen said:

unconscious ethnic cleansing project carried out by Jews who were desperate for security than a consciously designed plan to expel Arabs.

It is very conscious by the settlers.

It's insane that Zionists put up all these rationalizations and excuses, but totally ignore talking about the 750,000 settlers in the West Bank and their daily expansion efforts. And also the settlers now planning to colonize Gaza. And the fact that this is all supported by the top of the government.

So it is no accident. This is extremely deliberate, but with a bunch of rationalizations, excuses, fantasies, and hand-waving around it.

The Nahkba was also not accidental, it was methodically executed.

Just listen to interviews with the settlers. They tell you explicitly what they want. There is no mystery here.

If ethnic cleansing wasn't happening there would be no settlers, no settlements, no outposts, and no government support for such things.

Edited October 18 by Leo Gura

[zazen]

Quotes from Jabotinsky (ideological forefather of the Likud party):

https://en.jabotinsky.org/media/9747/the-iron-wall.pdf

''My readers have a general idea of the history of colonisation in other countries. I suggest that they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonisation being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent. The native populations, civilised or uncivilised, have always stubbornly resisted the colonists, irrespective of whether they were civilised or savage''

''Every native population in the world resists colonists as long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself of the danger of being colonised'

''Colonisation can have only one aim, and Palestine Arabs cannot accept this aim. It lies in the very nature of things, and in this particular regard nature cannot be changed.''

''Zionist colonisation must either stop, or else proceed regardless of the native population. Which means that it can proceed and develop only under the protection of a power that is independent of the native population – behind an iron wall, which the native population cannot breach. That is our Arab policy; not what we should be, but what it actually is, whether we admit it or not. What need, otherwise, of the Balfour Declaration? Or of the Mandate? Their value to us is that outside Power has undertaken to create in the country such conditions of administration and security that if the native population should desire to hinder our work, they will find it impossible.''

 

Quote from the Oded Yinon plan which seem to be how history has unfolded till today

https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/A_strategy_for_Israel_in_the_Nineteen_Eighties.pdf

''Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon.''

''Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precedent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track. The subsequent dissolution of Syria and Iraq into ethnically or religiously unique areas, as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run. The dissolution of the military power of these states serves as the primary short-term target''

''Dispersal of the population is therefore a domestic strategic aim of the highest order; otherwise, we shall cease to exist within any borders. Judea, Samaria and the Galilee are our sole guarantee for national existence, and if we do not become the majority in the mountain areas, we shall not rule in the country and we shall be like the Crusaders, who lost this country which was not theirs anyhow, and in which they were foreigners to begin with. Rebalancing the country demographically, strategically and economically is the highest and most central aim today.''

Great video:

 

Edited October 18 by zazen

[Raze]

This is a very good podcast episode summarizing Israel’s military history from its founding to the 1982 Lebanon war 

 

Edited October 18 by Raze

[Raze]

https://mondoweiss.net/2018/05/remarkable-disappearing-terrorism/
 

https://mondoweiss.net/2019/10/it-is-time-to-break-the-silence-on-israeli-terrorist-campaign-in-lebanon-that-killed-100s/

[Raze]

 

[Vercingetorix]

1 hour ago, Raze said:

 

https://youtu.be/kDdK5NfUnw4

A respond to the response

Edited October 19 by Vercingetorix