Jesus is a Social Construct? Tell me more

[Nemra]

Just now, gettoefl said:

If you see through your religion, it was some institutionalized corrupted version.

Religion is religion no matter what.

Have you seen awake religious person?

[gettoefl]

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

Religion is religion no matter what.

Have you seen awake religious person?

Have you defined religion too narrowly?

Awakening is the fruits of religion even though other roads are permissible

Religion is for the collective while spirituality may work if you are more introverted or isolated

[Nemra]

Ok, we disagree.

Sorry, but religion isn't about awakening.

[Salvijus]

4 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Have you seen awake religious person?

What do you mean religious? 

 

 

[gettoefl]

5 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Ok, we disagree.

Sorry, but religion isn't about awakening.

to my limited experience at least but other's mileage may frequently vary*

there fixed it

[Nemra]

Just now, Salvijus said:

What do you mean religious?

Whoever follows dogmas unquestionably, believes their morality is absolute and is awakened by just being part of a religion.

[Schizophonia]

Jesus is an archetype.

[Salvijus]

15 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Have you seen awake religious person?

There are many Hindus that awaken through their system. Neem Karoli Baba would worship a monkey god (Hanuman). Many such examples exist in every religion actually. 

[Nemra]

1 minute ago, Salvijus said:

There are many Hindus that awaken through their system. Neem Karoli Baba would worship a monkey god (Hanuman). Many such examples exist in every religion actually. 

Why do you trust it?

Edited October 7 by Nemra

[gettoefl]

2 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Jesus is an archetype.

Indeed.

Everyone is Jesus or Judas, no other choice

[CARDOZZO]

I like how Adyashanti talks about Jesus.

Read his book "Resurrecting Jesus: Embodying the Spirit of a Revolutionary Mystic".

Deep stuff!

[Schizophonia]

Just now, CARDOZZO said:

I like how Adyashanti talks about Jesus.

Read his book "Resurrecting Jesus: Embodying the Spirit of a Revolutionary Mystic".

Deep stuff!

I prefer Wotan

[Salvijus]

11 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Why do you trust it?

It's convincing enough for me. It's not that difficult to find awake religious people. But of course there is no limit to how sceptical one can be. Even if I showed you a million of legit examples in front of your eyes, you could still be sceptical and find a way to be unconvinced, if you want to remain unconvinced. 

Edited October 7 by Salvijus

[CARDOZZO]

14 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

I prefer Wotan

Great  

[Hojo]

@Nemra Religion keeps God alive. If Religion was completely destroyed we would lose God. If everyone is an athiest God is dead.

[Nemra]

@Salvijus, it depends on how we define what is religious.

There can't be awakening the way I defined it.

[CARDOZZO]

@Leo Gura

Off-topic but related:

How did you felt during the interview/worskshop with Ralston? 

People talk about how being in the presence of a master/spiritual teacher, how it affects yourself. They feel a deep presence. Some people talk that they have changed internally just because they were around them.

Placebo? Bullshit? Real? What do you think?

[Salvijus]

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

@Salvijus, it depends on how we define what is religious.

There can't be awakening the way I defined it.

You can awaken by following something dogmaticly for sure if the thing you follow is legit. Like you can do yoga with total blind faith and it will still work if it's legit. And you can do rituals with blind faith and it will work if the rituals are actually legit. 

The efficiency of the path does not depend on whether you believe in it or not. 

[Nemra]

7 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Religion keeps God alive. If Religion was completely destroyed we would lose God. If everyone is an atheist God is dead.

Yep, the materialistic, separate, constructed God.

Edited October 7 by Nemra

[Nemra]

@Salvijus, how will you know if it's legit if you are a dogmatic person?

Even if it's legit, would you stay dogmatic?

It's different to follow your intuition and be dogmatic from childhood.