How To Exploit Men

[MsNobody]

A little shocked with those videos but she does have a lot of good points, decided to create this thread to balance it out the lack of advice here in the forum for women. 

I have a close friend who went through a divorce recently, his (now ex) wife left him for a sugar daddy and he is devastated, her IG is that of a sugar baby of course, all the purses brands etc, he used to give her really expensive stuff 10k bracelets, put implants fixed her nose, and she still left him for someone with more money. He always vents to me and recently said he is unhappy with his job because since he doesn’t have a woman his desire to make money (to be a provider) diminished. 
I know men get off of being a provider, but didn’t know the depth of it. I’ve been meeting so many provider men after dating so many takers. Just got me thinking, are we not asking enough of men?! 

Would prefer this thread to be a women’s discussion but all are welcome to join ☺️

[NoSelfSelf]

 

Your friend is just tricking money to get women,he sees himself as not worthy of women so he compensates with money.Then dont wonder when she leaves you for someone who gives more money 😂 because there will always be someone with more money,that's why learning yourself matter so much.If you place looks for example as something you stand on, there will always be someome better looking and so on...

Men cant be exploited ,thats what man is a stand alone person who doesnt give a fuck about someone more than himself.

But ladies feel free to to discuss this is my 2 cents.

 

 

 

Edited October 4 by NoSelfSelf

[Schizophonia]

30 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

 

Your friend is just tricking money to get women,he sees himself as not worthy of women so he compensates with money.Then dont wonder when she leaves you for someone who gives more money 😂 because there will always be someone with more money,that's why learning yourself matter so much.If you place looks for example as something you stand on, there will always be someome better looking and so on...

Men cant be exploited ,thats what man is a stand alone person who doesnt give a fuck about someone more than himself.

But ladies feel free to to discuss this is my 2 cents.

 

 

 

spot on

[Schizophonia]

50 minutes ago, MsNobody said:

 

lol she seems turbo neurotic.

[aurum]

Manosphere for women.  And just as toxic.

[How to be wise]

@MsNobody Divorce rape must be made a crime!

[MsNobody]

@aurum I don't think it's toxic at all, she is not disrespecting anyone. It's basically dating games. 

@Schizophonia She actually seems to be very level headed, in my opinion she is very calm and rational for a woman.

@NoSelfSelf yes my friend is insecure, which doesnt even make sense cause he is a greek god but like you said, knowing yourself is a super power.

 

[MsNobody]

@How to be wise what do you mean?

[Emerald]

I didn't watch the videos, so I'm not responding to the videos specifically.

But what you had said about your friend whose ex used him for money and then left him for a wealthier guy is a shame.

Often times, men can feel a great deal of shame and unlovability and a sense of not being enough as they are. And they may end up in relationships where a woman exploits these vulnerabilities because he feels like he needs to compensate for his perceived unlovability by over-giving.

And using these types of tactics for the sake of exploitation will create unhappy dysfunctional relationships. Plus, only guys with self-esteem issues will be willing to put up with it.

Also, most men naturally like to give and be appreciated/loved for it. So, it takes a very nice pro-social quality and exploits it.

If you want to make a man happy using this knowledge and help him feel closer to you, ask him to help you solve a problem. And then appreciate him for it and tell him how his help made you feel.

Or if he gives a gift of his own volition, light up and appreciate him for it.

But if a woman keeps telling a man "This is not sufficient. You need to give me more.", men who are already on shaky ground self-esteem-wise will keep trying and trying and trying like a little boy trying to impress a callous mother. And it's just exploiting a deep human vulnerability. 

And of course, no intimacy is possible in this type of situation.

Edited October 4 by Emerald

[How to be wise]

9 minutes ago, MsNobody said:

@How to be wise what do you mean?

Women taking all the man’s money in divorce. 

[aurum]

21 minutes ago, MsNobody said:

@aurum I don't think it's toxic at all, she is not disrespecting anyone. It's basically dating games. 

It’s toxic to herself first and foremost.

In some ways, she is the main victim here. Her mind is poisoned and she will never be able to have a healthy relationship because of it.

Whatever damage is done to men is only secondary.

[Javfly33]

4 hours ago, MsNobody said:

I know men get off of being a provider, but didn’t know the depth of it. I’ve been meeting so many provider men after dating so many takers. Just got me thinking, are we not asking enough of men?! 

Would prefer this thread to be a women’s discussion but all are welcome to join ☺️

well, well, well, dont include me in that, i wish i had a turn on  for being a provider 🤣 things would be much easier for me . Didn´t know that was a thing for most men. 

44 minutes ago, Emerald said:

 

But if a woman keeps telling a man "This is not sufficient. You need to give me more.", men who are already on shaky ground self-esteem-wise will keep trying and trying and trying like a little boy trying to impress a callous mother. And it's just exploiting a deep human vulnerability. 

And of course, no intimacy is possible in this type of situation.

Well said, this is actually an official thing nowdays and is called financial domination. 

Although by what I´m seeing it seems it exists in more subtler ways than what i thought. 

4 hours ago, NoSelfSelf said:

 

Your friend is just tricking money to get women,he sees himself as not worthy of women so he compensates with money.Then dont wonder when she leaves you for someone who gives more money

 

that´s also a good point. 

Although I must say that stable ground is rare. I know a guy that was the typical 'fucker' for a long time until she met a woman a couple of years ago (latina, i dont want to be racist, but i have to say it xD), and he is paying for almost everything nowdays. 

What you say sounds good in theory, but in reality women will always ask something from you. Specially in long term relationships nothing is free. But is true that it doesn´t have to be money 👍

I guess the ideal exchange is something you really want to give, instead of using money as a means to get her. If what you are is what she is seeking then is the perfect match

Edited October 4 by Javfly33

[Princess Arabia]

Some men will go out and gladly support already rich designer clothes manufacturers, sports or luxury car makers, already rich sports teams phone companies and everything else under the sun that makes them consumers and inflate their egos and cry about buying dinner for their dates. 

Some women do appreciate the men in their lives and the men are happy to give their beloved everything she desires as long as he can afford it. The issue is when some men are not wise enough to spot when she's genuinely in love with him and just thinks every woman is like that when there's nothing wrong with sincerely providing and taking care of the love of your life. 

Even if we're not talking about the love of your life or wife but just someone who gives you pleasure and who is receiving pleasure in anyway shape or form. Nothing wrong in giving them things from the heart in a show of appreciation. We do it all the time when we consume rubbish, but when it comes to a good woman we hold back and say "I'm not a simp". Just like anything else, there's ways of doing things where you're not being taken advantage of, it's up to you to be wise enough to spot the people who are genuine. Lots of men lose out on a good woman because they think she'll be using them and only look at her that way because she's a female and not her personality.

Edited October 4 by Princess Arabia

[Leo Gura]

What rage-bait topic is this now?

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

What rage-bait topic is this now?

Lmao. I thought the same thing at first. I'm like "oh no not again". 

[Leo Gura]

Nothing whips up the incels like a story of women exploiting men.

They pounce on that like a cat on a wiggly mouse 

Edited October 4 by Leo Gura

[Javfly33]

11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

 

Even if we're not talking about the love of your life or wife but just someone who gives you pleasure and who is receiving pleasure in anyway shape or form. 

of course not, there´s nothing wrong either to spend 300K on your crack cocaine dealer in a few years! (I know a case) Is just pleasure transaction 👍 

But that is healthy is another matter...

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Just like anything else, there's ways of doing things where you're not being taken advantage of, it's up to you to be wise enough to spot the people who are genuine. 

Basically no one...everyone is looking for the best deal here

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

of course not, there´s nothing wrong either to spend 300K on your crack cocaine dealer in a few years! (I know a case) Is just pleasure transaction 👍 

But that is healthy is another matter...

Basically no one...everyone is looking for the best deal here

If that's the way you're looking at the world, it's because you're like that. That's a false statement and a belief system. There are plenty of genuine people out there who sincerely care about others and will even trade their lives or take big risks for others. WE TEND TO SEE THE WORLD HOW WE ARE, NOT AS IT ACTUALLY IS.

[Princess Arabia]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Nothing whips up the incels like a story of women exploiting men.

They pounce on that like a cat on a wiggly mouse 

😅😅

[MsNobody]

2 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

well, well, well, dont include me in that, i wish i had a turn on  for being a provider 🤣 things would be much easier for me . Didn´t know that was a thing for most men. 

Well said, this is actually an official thing nowdays and is called financial domination. 

Although by what I´m seeing it seems it exists in more subtler ways than what i thought. 

that´s also a good point. 

Although I must say that stable ground is rare. I know a guy that was the typical 'fucker' for a long time until she met a woman a couple of years ago (latina, i dont want to be racist, but i have to say it xD), and he is paying for almost everything nowdays. 

What you say sounds good in theory, but in reality women will always ask something from you. Specially in long term relationships nothing is free. But is true that it doesn´t have to be money 👍

I guess the ideal exchange is something you really want to give, instead of using money as a means to get her. If what you are is what she is seeking then is the perfect match

I'm latina and am taking it personally lol.. jk! Well but many of my american friends go crazy for latinas, not to be mean towards american women but in general they don't do much for their husbands, sex is rare, touch is non existent, they are very much about the money, many of them don't like to cook or clean.. I 've lived with many american families and can say from experience. If you ever dated a latina you will know what Im talking about. 

A marriage is a transaction nonetheless, so it's natural that women want something in return. I've dated many men who are providers, it allows me to be more in my feminine and the more time passes the more I feel like settling and taking care of the house/ kids. I think just like everything in this reality it's gonna depend of each person, the prisma has many sides. 

But what I do see a lot is men leading women on just to exploit them, I have many american friends who dates for 7 or 10 years and never got married, just wasting women's time. So I think the intention of my post is to shine some light on the manipulations of men. Yes some of them are also exploited but many more exploit women, and Leo is helping with that lol I see little to no posts here talking about the exploitation of men, Leo treats men like they are his little kids that need to be protected at all times, of course because of his suffering with women throughout the years.