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5 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

A fuckton, chronic blow-my-brains-out to escape life amounts.

By the time he went chronic with it... consistently for 4-5 months would be my approx

He was 32.

Jeez


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39 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I've never heard fat described as "profound" before. :D

You have a way with words, madam.

Thanks, indeed you also! Your prose has excellent pace and structure. When you read it, the cadence helps illustrate your point as it has a pleasing rhythm

Unless you are frustrated - then it is a staccato explosion ^_^

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@Natasha Tori Maru when he started to have symptoms did he stop smoking right away? or Did he continue smoking as it progressively got worse?

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@Leo Gura

I can't see why you say animals are zombies and that they can't recognize beauty. Their consciousness is probably not that much different from ours, except ours is more complex. Sure they don't have ideas and abstraction abilities like ours but simple direct experience of the senses, some basic recognition of symmetry and the release of dopamine as a result of biological evolutionary programming may trigger a feeling of beauty I presume. 

I don't know why I have to prove or anyone has to prove the existence of beauty. But if one would want to theoretically I guess it would be as following:

One day when we could scan a brain and separate the experience of beauty we could say here this is beauty, it consists of these frequencies in the brain.

If you can make a conscious robot that can have the same experience of beauty, would that be proof?

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About the limitation of rationality part, I don't think rationality is one of the frames, but a meta tool to analyze them all.

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1 hour ago, integral said:

@Natasha Tori Maru when he started to have symptoms did he stop smoking right away? or Did he continue smoking as it progressively got worse?

He didn't stop until he was well into visually and audibly seeing shit without any connection to another sound or object.

It took a good month, me and all his mates, to convince him shit was cooked

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@Natasha Tori Maru There’s a chance he would’ve recovered if he just stopped smoking, and then waited for a couple days or months until his brain went back to normal. Did he start taking antipsychotic medication right away without even trying just quitting drugs for a while? Lol 


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7 hours ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

I can't see why you say animals are zombies and that they can't recognize beauty.

I say, humans are also zombies.

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It personally took me many years to master cannabis. Keep in mind that I use it medicinally. Never done it illegally. And I’m in a conservative state (Texas). They wisely limit the amount of THC and have strict rules on what medical conditions get approved to use it.
 

And you must work with a doctor for about a year before they let you buy any medicinal cannabis product and any amount. Until then, you are told exactly how to take it and can’t buy more than what is prescribed. And no smoking or vaping is sold for medical use.

This is surprisingly where conservatives got it right, liberals take note.


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58 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

It personally took me many years to master cannabis. Keep in mind that I use it medicinally. Never done it illegally. And I’m in a conservative state (Texas). They wisely limit the amount of THC and have strict rules on what medical conditions get approved to use it.
 

And you must work with a doctor for about a year before they let you buy any medicinal cannabis product and any amount. Until then, you are told exactly how to take it and can’t buy more than what is prescribed. And no smoking or vaping is sold for medical use.

This is surprisingly where conservatives got it right, liberals take note.

Conservative want to imprison, demonize and shame anyone who smokes or is addicted to weed, as well as ban all usage of weed because it's demonic to them. What you see is the falling away of conservatism, not the opposite.

Meanwhile, conservatives are perfectly okay with alcohol, which kills tens of thousands of people in car accidents alone every year, and destroys countless more lifes. 

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Do the weed states have a zombie apocalypse, or are hippies impactfuly discussing the dangers of weed right in front of you. Who do kids listen to, the police, or the hippy?

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I remember making a similar post about how decriminalization of drugs wasn’t a good idea based off of what I personally experienced in Portland.

I do think they should have the ability to use medicinally but it should be controlled by a medical expert.


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What is insane to me is that alcohol is not criminalised while less harmful drugs are. Either criminalise alcohol or decriminalise less harmful drugs like: amphetamine, psyhedelics, weed, oxy, codeine, benzos, ketamine, MDMA...

Alcohol is very addictive and harmful drug. If you would fully comprehend how much suffering, addiction, homelessness, violence was and is caused by alcohol in the world, your head would explode. It just doesn't make sense that it's legal while drugs I mentioned aren't, where is rationality in that? 

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@CosmicExplorer cigarettes and alcohol is a huge financial incentive, in Canada where I live the government controls the distribution of these substances and makes billions.

They have recently added Vape and marijuana to what they are Distributing and controlling increasing their financial return.

The problem is egregious, everyone in high school is vaping and smoking weed, heavily affecting and limiting their future. You guys have no idea how bad it is in high school, flavored Vape is 10x worse than cigarettes in terms of addiction for kids.

The cherry on top is my family started a vaping business the moment the opportunity struck, profiting off of the whole movement.

This is about profits, this wasn't only for liberal agenda.

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Alcohol

Total Revenue: $13.5 billionStatistics Canada

Cannabis

Total Revenue: $2.2 billion

Tobacco

Total Revenue: Approximately $7.5 billion (from 2019–2020 data)Chamber

Vaping Products

Total Revenue: Specific national figures are not readily available.

 

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13 hours ago, integral said:

@Natasha Tori Maru There’s a chance he would’ve recovered if he just stopped smoking, and then waited for a couple days or months until his brain went back to normal. Did he start taking antipsychotic medication right away without even trying just quitting drugs for a while? Lol 

He was sober for a short period before taking medication through a doctor. But his pathology was so extreme he had to do something, as his basic ability to function was bricked to all hell.

I was his boss at the time in retail, and he was actively seeing shit on the sales floor when interacting with customers.

Needless to say, I did spend a lot of company time and money orchestrating shifts and environments that wouldn't trigger him, in an effort to protect him so he didn't lose his job.

He was very much hell bent on self-deletion from some heavy trauma.

@CosmicExplorer I agree that alcohol and cigarettes are serious substances that can destroy lives, but the financial corruption propelling those industries is so large and systematically ingrained... the problem is huge and multi-level. No easy solution. It is intertwined with greed and personal prosperity at the expense of others. Not to mention how ingrained alcohol is in our culture. It punctuates almost every celebratory event you can name in the west. Alcohol is more damaging than weed, in my opinion, but purely because of how much more widespread it is. It is hard to say if both substances were used equally which would be worse. 

@Leo Gura's recent post is interesting. Personally, I do not think drugs should be criminalized. It clogs up the prison system. People should not be punished for addiction. They should be treated. My take will always lean towards compassion.

Legalizing? Thats another matter. Unfortunately, the low consciousness state of most of modern society means drugs are more likely to be abused than used as a tool.

It's like handing nukes to a child.

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@Leo Gura I'm very much in agreement regarding your perspective on the consequences of weed legislation. This is a very pressing issue that could impede many people's life purpose. If smoking weed becomes as normalised as drinking in a bar every weekend with people treating this cultural shift as just how "things should be", it will neuter an enormous amount of people's potential to carve out meaningful life purposes and contributions to humanity. The bottom line is that many people will abuse cannabis recreationally once it becomes fully integrated into our society and the price to pay for that is that individuals will be content with doing nothing with their lives or potential for global contribution and shall instead find comfort in using the high from weed to give their low effort lives a chemically induced state of meaning, which will distract them from aiming higher and contributing to our species as a whole. The drug decriminalisation/legalisation problem is far more nuanced than progressives make it out to be, so I applaud you for pointing out the ramifications of what this could mean for society.

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"Compared to other substances, marijuana is not very addicting, 9%. It is estimated that 32% of tobacco users will become addicted, 23% of heroin users, 17% of cocaine users, and 15% of alcohol users. Cocaine and heroin are more physically harmful and nicotine is much more addictive."

Tobacco seems to be being processed out of society quite well, naturally, not through propaganda or criminalizing which just makes it cool to do and attractive. Gen z is shunning alcohol even. Tobacco was so destructive not because of legalization, but because of business propaganda.

Don't mistake liberals legalizing weed, as promoting it in any way, let alone safe. Legalizing gay marriage does not mean we think you should turn gay. Sugar and motorcycles aren't safe either, I guess this needs said. People wanted video games banned in the 90s.

The government is not your mommy. If liberals had the say, we'd have free mental health care and addiction recovery, and a prosperous working class that kept people from looking for these holes to jump in.

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1 hour ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

Leo, is that how you experience reality? :D

 

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Great animation!

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