Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Yimpa]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

I have many old blog posts with good UFO documentaries:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/new-york-post-ufo-series

https://www.actualized.org/insights/yes-ufos-are-a-thing

 

[Anton Rogachevski]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It is far from meaningless.

A baboon does not have enough consciousness to know that 1=1.

It can only work within a logical framework. But logic is not Truth. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:41 AM by Anton Rogachevski

[Leo Gura]

33 minutes ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

But logic is not truth.

Or is it?

[Anton Rogachevski]

25 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Or is it?

The baboon is truth, the banana is truth. It doesn't need to think about the banana or equate a banana with a banana in order to be God, it already is it, even though it's not conscious of it.

If logic is Truth than anything is. But it's not so.

Edited Wednesday at 02:40 AM by Anton Rogachevski

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

The baboon is truth, the banana is truth. It doesn't need to think about the banana or equate a banana with a banana in order to be God, it's already is even though it's not conscious of it.

Sure, but we're talking about self-reflection and becoming conscious of more than just being an animal.

An animal does not grasp Truth, even though it exists as it.

A human in a vegetative state is not our goal here. Do not confuse vegetative animal state for Awakening or serious Consciousness.

Animals are zombies.

Edited Wednesday at 02:23 AM by Leo Gura

[Anton Rogachevski]

@Leo Gura

Logic is the grammer of the way thoughts are interacting.

The fact that logic can hold a paradox shows that it can't be truth. 

A paradox reveals to us how inadequate thought actually is for grasping reality.

Edited Wednesday at 02:27 AM by Anton Rogachevski

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

Logic is the grammer of the way thoughts are interacting.

It is that but also beyond that.

Being is logical.

Edited Wednesday at 02:27 AM by Leo Gura

[Anton Rogachevski]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It is that but also beyond that.

Being is logical.

I'll grant you that logic is part the infinite hallucination that you call Reality, but I'm highly skeptical that the inside of the cave is all there is. I don't believe the hallucination just yet.

Since I'm not yet enlightened, I still believe there may be something we don't see or can grasp or know outside of perception.

I also highly doubt the ability of a monkey jungle brain like ours to actually understand anything about ultimate reality.

I'm even skeptical of the ability of skepticism to properly question delusion. So I don't even know how deeply I don't know anything at all. I guess this is an infinite hallucination.

Edited Wednesday at 02:39 AM by Anton Rogachevski

[Leo Gura]

36 minutes ago, Anton Rogachevski said:

I also highly doubt the ability of a monkey jungle brain like ours to actually understand anything about ultimate reality.

That's why I'm here.

To tell you you're mistaken

[Anton Rogachevski]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's why I'm here.

To tell you you're mistaken

It's not like your hardware is much different to ours. You did feed it many weird substances. 

How is it in a practical sense? Is your life more amazing and fulfilling post enlightenment?

[Yimpa]

Cannabis?? More like, a Can of Worms!
 

[EternalForest]

19 hours ago, Vynce said:

*My head hurts..* @EternalForest

Joe Rogan in yellow means he has fully integrated green and has lived in it for some years.

Where in his life has a ever walked in greens boots, let alone integrated it?

He is pretty much the most prominent hater of anything green. 

So there is a lot of room for contemplation on how you have come to you opinion. Of course your entire assessment for Rogan to be yellow can only be rooted in you living on the entire spiral up to yellow for years. Have you?

I reject the idea I have to be Yellow to recognize Yellow. I don't think you have to be Turquoise to recognize someone as Turquoise, as Leo has repeatedly.

As for why I think Rogan is Yellow, he's able to have people from all walks of life and belief systems on his show and engage with them and understand them. That's more rare than you may think.

And if he wasn't Green then why would he have so much interest in meditation, psychedelics, hippie culture, etc? And not only have knowledge of them but integrate them in a healthy way?

Edited Wednesday at 06:26 AM by EternalForest

[Leo Gura]

Rogan is not Yellow. He's Orange-Green. Especially the post-Covid Rogan.

Edited Wednesday at 06:31 AM by Leo Gura

[Vynce]

Diving into the realm of mental illnesses and their medications, how do you connect that to Love?

When I was at a psych ward for 5 days after a suicidal episode, I got to know a young man called "Ralph". He was a migrant 19 year old from Lebanon, left alone by his parents just some years after his birth. No family, no friends. And a serious case of autism. So bad that he could even wash himself. And the only thing he would do, was to walk around the facility in circles. The entire day. Everyday. Sometimes he had fun with taking water in his mouth and squirting it whereever he liked. Or sniffing peoples hair. One day he search through all of my stuff because there were some nuts at the bottom of my bag. Which he found and ate - at the middle of the night. I guess his nose was the only thing that worked properly.

But it was obvious that he would stay at this facility (or a similar one) for the rest of his life, possibly for decades. Nobody in her/his right mind would want to burden themself with the amount of work Ralph required.

I guess absolute Love is the only reason this happens.

Edited Wednesday at 07:05 AM by Vynce

[Rafael Thundercat]

For the ones interrested on the topic of Schizofrenia I recomended looking into The theory o Bicameral Mind. In the past there are many stories of people who use to listen voices. Johanah D'Arch for example, and many more that maybe didnt survived. The Bicameral Mind Ideia may be a clue for Schizofrenia puzzle, mainly if we take that Mind is not a Neurological Brain dependend thing. You guys would think crazy the sort of stuff I heard in some non-Ordinary States. One day in Ayahuasca it felt like the medicine was giving me a glimpse of what Schizofrenia was like. The difference is that I could be objective and present to that insanity. 

Auditory Hallucinations. 

https://youtu.be/DrXmNf5qAnQ?si=iLIrHLoBeIwgC5yd

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 01:18 PM by Rafael Thundercat

[Yimpa]

Love=Consciousness

[Twentyfirst]

13 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

For the ones interrested on the topic of Schizofrenia I recomended looking into The theory o Bicameral Mind. In the past there are many stories of people who use to listen voices. Johanah D'Arch for example, and many more that maybe didnt survived. The Bicameral Mind Ideia may be a clue for Schizofrenia puzzle, mainly if we take that Mind is not a Neurological Brain dependend thing. You guys would think crazy the sort of stuff I heard in some non-Ordinary States. One day in Ayahuasca it felt like the medicine was giving me a glimpse of what Schizofrenia was like. The difference is that I could be objective and present to that insanity. 

Auditory Hallucinations. 

https://youtu.be/DrXmNf5qAnQ?si=iLIrHLoBeIwgC5yd

 

 

But whats the difference between that mental illness video in the blog and just ego. Because ego or low self esteem will say similar negative things but in the video it was definitely more paranoid when saying the pizza was poison as if someone was out to get him

[Yimpa]

6 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

But whats the difference between that mental illness video in the blog and just ego. Because ego or low self esteem will say similar negative things but in the video it was definitely more paranoid when saying the pizza was poison as if someone was out to get him

You can have a healthy ego that is able to function well in society. Whereas a severe mentally ill person cannot even leave their own house.

Society is unhealthy.

Edited Wednesday at 10:04 PM by Yimpa

[Twentyfirst]

1 minute ago, Yimpa said:

You can have a healthy ego that is able to function well in society. Whereas a severe mentally ill person cannot even leave their own house.

Society is unhealthy.

But until you wake up to ego isn't your ego by default mentally ill. In the video can't that guy just ignore the voices because they are telling him the pizza is poison it should be obvious to ignore

[Leo Gura]

@Twentyfirst

Ego is not the same thing as multiple weird voices telling you random paranoid things.

Edited Wednesday at 10:10 PM by Leo Gura