Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[AtmanIsBrahman]

@Leo Gura how do you reconcile the absoluteness of logic with paradox? You were saying in the blog post that a=a is absolute, but a paradox is basically when a=not a. So has your understanding of paradox changed? Based on the absoluteness of logic, it seems like paradox cannot be fundamental to reality.

[Daniel Balan]

Could a stage yellow/green centrist candidate win the presidential election in a stage blue/red country like Romania?

I am 100% going to vote for the mayor of Bucharest, Nicusor Dan. For me he is like a role model!

Is Romania ready to have such a developed person as it's president? I want this to happen with all my heart! But I doubt that it will happen.

What do you think? Is there any chance? Please read the following Politico EU article about my favourite candidate. 

https://www.politico.eu/article/romania-vladimir-putin-us-president-donald-trump-west/

Edited March 28 by Daniel Balan

[Ulax]

1 hour ago, Daniel Balan said:

Could a stage yellow/green centrist candidate win the presidential election in a stage blue/red country like Romania?

I am 100% going to vote for the mayor of Bucharest, Nicusor Dan. For me he is like a role model!

Is Romania ready to have such a developed person as it's president? I want this to happen with all my heart! But I doubt that it will happen.

What do you think? Is there any chance? Please read the following Politico EU article about my favourite candidate. 

https://www.politico.eu/article/romania-vladimir-putin-us-president-donald-trump-west/

I would guess it would depend on how good his campaign team are. 

[Daniel Balan]

@Ulax He could have world's best campaign team. It is redundant as long as the counter campaign paints him as a LGBTQ+ advocate and a George Soros backed candidate who wants to eradicate religion and wants to send young men to war against Russia. That's what all the news outlets in Romania report about him. And to a stage blue society, it is enough to be seen as the son of Satan. So much BS about a candidate who all his life was on a quest of eradicating corruption. All I wish now is that there are more sane minded people in this country who would vote for him and that the rednecks are just a loud minority. 

[Davino]

What makes Actualized.org unique is the blend of Awakening & Consciousness in harmony with Human Development & Evolution.

[Daniel Balan]

4 minutes ago, Davino said:

What makes Actualized.org unique is the blend of Awakening & Consciousness in harmony with Human Development & Evolution.

Hell yea!

[Yimpa]

I was about to write about how I discovered Alien Insanity, but I held back. Glad I did because the latest blog post is such a better description. 

The beauty is increasing!!!

[OBEler]

Awakening cognition sounds awesome! It really sounds a bit like alien mind.

[Leo Gura]

23 hours ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

@Leo Gura how do you reconcile the absoluteness of logic with paradox? You were saying in the blog post that a=a is absolute, but a paradox is basically when a=not a. So has your understanding of paradox changed? Based on the absoluteness of logic, it seems like paradox cannot be fundamental to reality.

It's an advanced issue.

But basically A=A cannot be defeated. Paradox has to take place in more tricky and higher-order ways.

22 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

Could a stage yellow/green centrist candidate win the presidential election in a stage blue/red country like Romania?

Almost certainly not. And even if he did, he would be hated, ineffective, and booted.

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[Daniel Balan]

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Almost certainly not. And even if he did, he would be hated, ineffective, and booted.

The only thing that can make him have a chance at winning is if urban Romania is actually very developed like high orange on the spiral. I live in rural Romania very close to Ukraine and here people are almost 99% stage blue/red. I haven't travelled too much around Romania but I hope that the number of stage Orange people who could resonate with Nicusor Dan is bigger than the number of uneducated stage blue/red corpse kissing fanatical Christians in rural Romania. Nicusor Dan in my eyes is closely resembling you @Leo Gura when it comes to politics. A down to earth centrist, systemic thinker, activist, viewing the world through a multi perspectival lens. Unfortunately red/blue is too far from the yellow/green politics that Mr. Nicusor Dan is offering. So sad... currently this country is the definition of corruption and income inequality and I wish with all my heart that a candidate like him to lead the country. But perhaps the current citizenry of Romania is far too backward for that to happen.

Edited March 29 by Daniel Balan

[Leo Gura]

@Daniel Balan Bro, we can barely elect such people in America. And they are hated with passion by the right.

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[Daniel Balan]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

@Daniel Balan Bro, we can barely elect such people in America.

Believe me, America and Romania aren't too far apart when it comes to development. Sure your infrastructure is great. But the citizenry is basically the same. I would say that rural America is as developed as rural Romania. Where America stands better is when it comes to the urban population. America's urban areas are well into Green, where as in urban Romania they start to evolve out of blue and into Orange. But rural America is probably in some areas even worse than Romania's because at least here we don't have guns to shoot each other.

[Leo Gura]

@Daniel Balan But the corruption levels are quite different. Corruption is the key piece. A high corruption nation cannot sustain Green/Yellow.

[Daniel Balan]

@Leo GuraWhat frustrates me most is my inability to persuade anyone to support my preferred candidate...not even my girlfriend, who identifies as blue/green and with whom I’ve spent countless hours discussing the spiral dynamics model.

Despite this, she plans to vote for the far-right candidate because of their stance against homosexuality and aid to Ukraine and because he is nationalist and loves religion.

Others I’ve tried to convince dismiss my candidate as weak, claiming he’s a Soros puppet who will push LGBTQ+ issues into school curriculums. My response is: we’re struggling to afford sending kids to school or maintain functional classrooms.. why are we fixating on nonsense about gay rights when our real issues are crumbling hospitals, substandard schools, broken roads, and barely enough money for groceries?

Their response was: " I would prefer to have no roads, or no hospitals at all, as long as we keep our traditions and religion and not to be the slaves of the globalists, George Soros and the European Union" 

How can I convince such people? Or should I stop all together and mind my personal business?

Edited March 29 by Daniel Balan

[Leo Gura]

@Daniel Balan You have to accept their level of development. You cannot logick anyone out of their level of development any more than you logick a cat into being a dog.

It takes 5 years of serious inner work to move up one development level, from Blue to Orange. And that assumes the person wants it and is proactive about it, which almost no one is.

You have to accept that Romania will not be Green in your lifetime. This stuff requires 50 years.

Work with what is -- reality -- not fantasies.

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[Daniel Balan]

To a sane human, when a candidate is interviewed by Politico, he should feel like, yes, here is another reason to vote for this candidate because finally more developed nations and news outlets are giving recognition to the candidate. 
 

But NO. Because Politico wrote about him now the rednecks view this as a clear sign that the gay globalists want this man as president to turn this country into a secular, colony state, enslaved by the gays and the woke agenda...... <FACEPALM inserted>

Sometimes it is too much. 

[Daniel Balan]

@Leo Gura I accept that. But where I have a problem is with all the demagogues who turned this place to shit. It baffles me how on earth people will still eat the same propaganda about "Protecting the children from gays" about "Protecting traditions and religion against evil woke globalists" when the average citizen here doesn't have enough money to buy toilet paper, or when he gets sick and goes to a hospital, he dies there from all the infections and filth. I mean, how much can you value religion so that you piss on evolution and improvement so that you can claim that you voted for someone who would keep you just as hopeless... but at least that candidate protects religion and safeguards you from gays, wokeness and George Soros .... It is mind breaking to me. 

[Leo Gura]

29 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

but at least that candidate protects religion and safeguards you from gays, wokeness and George Soros

Yes, yes. That's how group-think works. Nothing new here. Remember, just 80 years ago people were following Hitler and Stalin into utter madness.

Humans are zombies running on group-think.

What you found with Actualized.org is so cutting edge, so advanced, that it's a century ahead of mankind.

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[Daniel Balan]

@Leo Gura I thank my lucky stars for finding you. I thank my bullies from middle school for bullying me into having self esteem issues in 2014 and because of that I found this video back then. I will always remember the day I found your channel. Thank you for existing. Without you I'd still be the rebellious religion hater man I am today and I'm 100% confident that I wouldn't have fallen into group think because I am very skeptical of humans in general but surely I wouldn't have developed the mind that I have today. The mind I have today is 100% thanks to you. So once again, I am eternally thankful.  

 

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[Leo Gura]

People get into this work, do it for a while, it becomes a kind of echochamber, and they forget that the rest of mankind is a century out from doing this kind of work.

Never forget how rare what we're doing here is.

It only seems obvious once you're neck deep in it. But most people will never even know this work exists.

Edited March 29 by Leo Gura