Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[The Crocodile]

53 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Where does Jesus say that anal sex is bad?

It comes from the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, where God sent some angels to investigate, and all of the people in Sodom wanted to sodomize the angels. So God destroyed both the cities.

[Leo Gura]

How so we know Jesus wasn't into anal sex?

[gambler]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

How so we know Jesus wasn't into anal sex?

Build a Time Machine and ask him. 

[The Crocodile]

Jesus was okay with getting nailed by the Roman dudes

[MsNobody]

lol I love this Forum, always a breath of fresh air 

[Yimpa]

Everybody chill. It is SUNday. The day to be respected.

The SUN is a hot juicy ass. Bask yourself in some Vitamin Daym! 

[Yimpa]

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YOU ARE GOD!

[Raze]

I don’t think Daniel Ingram has truly attained the Buddhist paths as they have been originally described. What he describes seems like a similar but partial version of what is written in the Pali canon and other original texts. I understand he argues those accounts are exaggerated but I’ve heard other examples that sound more similar to them and it’s plausible that the state of the human mind at the time those were written responded to those meditation techniques differently. What I know about the method he used and how it was developed also leads me to believe something like that is possible.

Edited Monday at 05:01 AM by Raze

[Vynce]

@Leo Gura I just had an epiphany into the nature of being a Buddhist.

Just squint your eyes a little and see that Buddhist = Bullshit. 

You’re welcome.

[Leo Gura]

12 minutes ago, Vynce said:

Buddhist = Bullshit. 

I know you're joking, but I just want to clarify that's not what my blog post is saying. There is value in Buddhism.

[Eskilon]

@Leo Gura Assuming Buddha was real, and based on his teachings and stories, do you think he was god-realized or he just realized no-self ?

Edited Monday at 07:15 AM by Eskilon

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Eskilon said:

@Leo Gura Assuming Buddha was real, and based on his teachings and stories, do you think he was god-realized or he just realized no-self ?

I don't want to speculate about people who aren't even alive. It's too prone to self-deception.

Edited Monday at 08:30 AM by Leo Gura

[gengar]

2 hours ago, Eskilon said:

@Leo Gura Assuming Buddha was real, and based on his teachings and stories, do you think he was god-realized or he just realized no-self ?

At the very least he killed his ego, that's what I think. He literally sat under a tree to die or "reach enlightenment". To me that would mean the ego killing itself and the human would then be free from the ego. whether that means enlightenment i don't know.

Edited Monday at 09:11 AM by gengar

[Leo Gura]

6 hours ago, Raze said:

I don’t think Daniel Ingram has truly attained the Buddhist paths as they have been originally described.

If that is true, the problem then is that if he couldn't do, no one basically stands a chance.

Edited Monday at 11:05 AM by Leo Gura

[Terell Kirby]

@Leo Gura enjoyed your post on the suffering of development- i think its worth its own video:

I'm starting to feel the suffering from contemplating my own corruption, many structures in my life that I have taken for granted are rooted in corruption, removing corruption would be the collapse of many of those structures.

I am now in the process of reorienting my life-and decluttering my mind. Many things have fallen away (and more will continue to fall away), but what has remained is quite pure and un-corruptible; mainly the desire to do for others with anything in return (it fills the spirit).

Questions I am contemplating after the post:

• How is corruption essential in growth/development and life in general? Both from an angle of mastery of survival, but also insights gained from rooting it out?
• What are the traps of focusing on the corruption of others at the exclusion of looking at my own corruption?
• What has the avoidance of looking at my corruption done for me? Positive and negatives
• How is corruption Divine?

[Raze]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

If that is true, the problem then is that if he couldn't do, no one basically stands a chance.

As of now, but I think that can change as Daniel and others have begun seriously studying meditation scientifically 

[gettoefl]

Specific examples of corruption from AI

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A-Z of Corruption

A – Arrogance – Believing oneself above moral scrutiny or incapable of wrongdoing.
B – Blindness (Moral Blindness) – Ignoring or failing to perceive ethical failings.
C – Complicity – Allowing or enabling wrongdoing through inaction.
D – Deception – Intentionally misleading others for self-benefit.
E – Exploitation – Using others unfairly for personal gain.
F – Fraud – Deliberately misrepresenting facts for personal advantage.
G – Greed – Prioritizing material or personal gain over ethical considerations.
H – Hypocrisy – Pretending to have moral standards while secretly violating them.
I – Indifference – Lacking concern for ethical consequences or suffering of others.
J – Justification (Unjustified Rationalization) – Twisting logic to excuse unethical behavior.
K – Kowtowing (Unprincipled Conformity) – Submitting to corruption for personal safety or gain.
L – Lying (Dishonesty) – Concealing or distorting the truth to serve self-interest.
M – Moral Cowardice – Knowing what is right but refusing to act out of fear or self-interest.
N – Negligence – Failing to fulfill moral or personal responsibilities.
O – Opportunism – Exploiting circumstances for selfish advantage without regard for ethics.
P – Power Abuse – Using authority to manipulate, oppress, or control unfairly.
Q – Quackery – Pretending to have knowledge, expertise, or moral authority one does not possess.
R – Rationalization – Justifying unethical behavior to avoid guilt or accountability.
S – Self-Righteousness – Believing one’s morality is superior while being blind to personal flaws.
T – Tyranny – Enforcing control through fear, oppression, or authoritarianism.
U – Unaccountability – Refusing to take responsibility for one’s actions.
V – Vanity (Moral Vanity) – Seeking admiration for being "good" rather than genuinely pursuing truth.
W – Willful Ignorance – Avoiding uncomfortable truths to maintain self-delusion.
X – Xenophobia – Prejudice or hostility toward those perceived as "other" or different.
Y – Yielding to Corruption – Giving in to unethical pressures rather than resisting them.
Z – Zealotry (Fanaticism) – Rigidly adhering to a belief or ideology, even when it leads to harm.

 

[gettoefl]

Self deception, is the mind's tool that, justifies corruption and keeps it unconscious. Here are some examples from AI:

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"I had no choice." → Framing corruption as unavoidable.

"I’m just following orders." → Shifting blame to authority.

"It’s not my problem." → Refusing to acknowledge wrongdoing.

"I don’t make the rules; I just play by them." → Using the system as an excuse.

"Nobody told me it was wrong." → Claiming ignorance to avoid responsibility.

"I had to do it to survive." → Justifying corruption through self-preservation.

"It’s for the greater good." → Using a noble cause to excuse harm.

"Everybody bends the rules sometimes." → Normalizing dishonesty.

"It’s just business." → Treating ethics as irrelevant in competition.

"They don’t deserve my honesty." → Justifying deception based on the target.

"What they don’t know won’t hurt them." → Rationalizing secrecy.

"It’s a necessary evil." → Accepting corruption as inevitable.

"I’m the real victim here." → Shifting focus to personal grievances.

"No one appreciates me, so I have to look out for myself." → Using neglect as an excuse.

"I work harder than everyone else—I deserve this." → Using effort to justify unethical rewards.

"People treat me unfairly, so I have to balance the scales." → Framing corruption as justice.

"If I were in their position, they’d do the same to me." → Assuming corruption is universal.

"I’ve sacrificed so much—I’ve earned this." → Using past suffering as moral currency.

"At least I’m not as bad as them." → Comparing oneself to worse offenders.

"At least I’m honest about it." → Excusing wrongdoing because others hide theirs.

"I didn’t break the law, so it’s fine." → Equating legality with morality.

"I could have taken even more." → Justifying dishonesty by what wasn’t done.

"Compared to real criminals, I’m a saint." → Downplaying one’s own corruption.

"This is nothing compared to what others get away with." → Using systemic corruption as an excuse.

"This is deeper wisdom—others just don’t get it." → Framing corruption as intelligence.

"Only fools live by rigid morality." → Treating ethics as naïve.

"I’m just playing the game of life." → Reducing morality to strategy.

"True wisdom is beyond good and evil." → Using philosophy to escape accountability.

"Everything happens for a reason, including this." → Claiming corruption is part of fate.

"If you understood the bigger picture, you’d see why this is necessary." → Dismissing ethical concerns as short-sighted.

 

[Davino]

17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

How so we know Jesus wasn't into anal sex?

He was into Magdalene, probably.

I had the weirdest insight into the dual nature of the virgin Mary and Magdalene as contrasting one sided feminine archetypes.

[Davino]

13 hours ago, Raze said:

I don’t think Daniel Ingram has truly attained the Buddhist paths as they have been originally described. .

Who do you think has truly attained it?

I only think Frank Yang is more evolved in that line than Daniel Ingram.