Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura will this be your next video?

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, did you come up with the proofs by yourself?

[Leo Gura]

26 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Leo Gura will this be your next video?

Yes

21 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Leo Gura, did you come up with the proofs by yourself?

I analyze all the classic proofs and then I invent my own better ones.

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, why do you want to share those logical proofs?

For whom are those proofs aimed?

Will that video be about understanding those proofs intellectually?

[Leo Gura]

31 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Leo Gura, why do you want to share those logical proofs?

Because it is a good lesson in advanced epistemology.

31 minutes ago, Nemra said:

For whom are those proofs aimed?

Everything is aimed at understanding reality. Not a who.

31 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Will that video be about understanding those proofs intellectually?

Yes

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, isn't awakening necessary to continue understanding those advanced stuff?

Could you have understood or come up with proofs without changing your state of consciousness?

[Yimpa]

Related blog post about proof:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/you-are-proof-of-god

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Nemra said:

@Leo Gura, isn't awakening necessary to continue understanding those advanced stuff?

It is necessary for me to create the teachings. But it is not necessary for others to benefit from the teachings.

You need a PhD to teach, you don't need a PhD to learn.

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Could you have understood or come up with proofs without changing your state of consciousness?

No.

The point is not for a video to prove God to you. The point is to study the epistemology behind how people think improperly about God, so you don't end up like them.

Edited Wednesday at 11:07 PM by Leo Gura

[Davino]

@Leo Gura Can't believe next video is on God.

Gonna grab some pop corn and 5meo.

[Davino]

@Leo Gura Wait to listen to my song. I've been working on it for some years. I just do it when I have inspiration and is part of my purification and Awakening process.

I do it in FL studio and just for creative fun 

[Yimpa]

49 minutes ago, Davino said:

Wait to listen to my song

Can’t wait to dance to it on a TikTok 

[Loveeee]

 

[Adrian colby]

I don’t know if it’s about truth but I write music inspired by my journey and sing them at festivals and ceremonies. 😁

[LifeEnjoyer]

The latest blog posts reminds me of another blog post, where people decide young to sell their souls to the devil. Well, in my case I decided young to be "unserious." And yes, it has lead to tons of self deception. LOL

[Nemra]

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The point is not for a video to prove God to you. The point is to study the epistemology behind how people think improperly about God, so you don't end up like them.

Don't get me wrong; I would have remained an unintelligent ignoramus without your guidance.

However, it seems to me that without a shift in consciousness, people could be missing a lot.

I guess you're probably right, as you considered sharing it after thinking from different angles.

Edited Thursday at 02:27 PM by Nemra

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, I have other questions.

Do you think tools like psychedelics should be used after learning, understanding, contemplating, and deconstructing everything in one's "natural" state?

Before stopping for health reasons, what was the motive each time you did it?

Do you think that it's worth sacrificing a few things in life in order to do it?

Edited Thursday at 09:20 PM by Nemra

[Nilsi]

“No one sings about truth.”

Classic Leo quote.

Really? Ever heard of Swans? Their lead singer is a hardcore mystic, and they’ve recorded some of the most critically acclaimed avant-garde rock albums ever - music that doesn’t just express but wrestles with truth in a profound and uncompromising way.

But if you’re dismissing empirical evidence in favor of self-sealed “direct insight,” you’d probably miss that. The irony, of course, is that this move doesn’t free you from assumptions - it just buries them. You can’t think your way out of falsifying your presuppositions, and the moment you claim to have done so, you’ve already lost.

And beyond that, this whole stance rests on an ungrounded distinction between “inner” and “outer” knowledge - like books, art, and inquiry don’t refine insight but somehow contaminate it. That’s not transcendence; that’s just epistemic protectionism.

[Nilsi]

Pink little lamb, a granite slab
Black chasm creeping, forever leaking
Oh, universe, sing in reverse
Oh, sucking lung, we'll never come
Forever loving, forever waiting
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, the universal mind

Eye full of sun
Hand full of mud, yeah
Oh, universe
You stink of love
Forever lazy
Forever crazy
Forever holy
Forever hungry
Forever hateful
Forever beautiful
Forever needing
Forever reaching
Forever stinking
Forever breathing
Forever growing
Forever leaving

Oh, shit and blood
Forever love
No ebb or flood
Will ever come
Oh, shit and blood
Forever love, love, love
Forever draining
Forever leaving

And what's my name? Oh, what's my name?
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, the universal mind

6 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

“No one sings about truth.”

Classic Leo quote.

Really? Ever heard of Swans? Their lead singer is a hardcore mystic, and they’ve recorded some of the most critically acclaimed avant-garde rock albums ever - music that doesn’t just express but wrestles with truth in a profound and uncompromising way.

But if you’re dismissing empirical evidence in favor of self-sealed “direct insight,” you’d probably miss that. The irony, of course, is that this move doesn’t free you from assumptions - it just buries them. You can’t think your way out of falsifying your presuppositions, and the moment you claim to have done so, you’ve already lost.

And beyond that, this whole stance rests on an ungrounded distinction between “inner” and “outer” knowledge - like books, art, and inquiry don’t refine insight but somehow contaminate it. That’s not transcendence; that’s just epistemic protectionism.

 

Edited Thursday at 06:18 PM by Nilsi

[Yimpa]

 

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Nilsi said:

“No one sings about truth.”

Classic Leo quote.

Really?

You're missing the point.

Of course you can find some counter-examples. The point is to notice how much low consciousness stuff humans usually sing about and how fooled they are with romantic love.

When I make points, they are not simplistic literal statements of absolute fact, they are pointers to things your mind could notice about reality.

When I say something like "everyone" it doesn't literally mean everyone, it is a generalization. I'm not going to over-explain that in a quote. If you can't get what is being pointed at, that's your loss.

Edited Thursday at 09:15 PM by Leo Gura