Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Eskilon]

I like Leo's post about New Age Fantasy. It is important to balance open-mindness with rigor. But, you can really favor rigor really, because you dont know if rigor is really true. Wheter the pyramids were built by aliens or by humans, you cant really know; you were not there. You need to be open to the possibility that the crazier theory might be true, whether it is more probable or not. You cant really just side with probability and discart the alien outcome just because it is more hippie or new agey and not grounded in anything reasonable. Because again, you don't know whether probability itself is true. You need deep not-knowing and open-mindness when investigating anything seriously. True rigor is when the rigor eat itself.

Edited yesterday at 12:42 AM by Eskilon

[The Crocodile]

No, the problem is that Leo fundamentally misunderstands what aliens are at all.

[Leo Gura]

33 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

But, you can really favor rigor really, because you dont know if rigor is really true.

Rigor turned into a dogma leads to its own kind of self-deception and falsehood.

However, intellectual rigor is a superior strategy to intellectual sloppiness.

Truth-seeking is kinda like good investing, is not about always being right, it's about discipline on solid principles and strategy, rather than doing whatever feels good.

There is no problem with aliens building the pyramid as a hypothesis. But then you must bring the data to back it up, or shut up about it.

A principle of good epistemology is that you don't go around speculating and promoting ideas which you have no solid evidence for, just because you love the idea or it feels intuitively true.

Discipline your mind to stick to the sound data and recognize when your mind floats off into fantasy.

It is obvious that someone like Graham Hancock is reasoning backwards from his conclusions. He wants and needs there to be an advanced lost civilization -- he is attached to that romantic idea -- and then he travels the world cherrypicking data to justify his conclusion. This is bad epistemology which leads to self-deception. That is not how to do truth-seeking.

If there was solid evidence for aliens building the pyramids I would be all for it. But there isn't.

Edited yesterday at 01:14 AM by Leo Gura

[The Crocodile]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

There is no problem with aliens building the pyramid as a hypothesis. But then you must bring the data to back it up, or shut up about it.

No, all this is not fancy or delusion, it is part of an occult science... and it is not merely auto-suggestive or hallucinatory in its results, but, if one can get the key, veridical and verifiable. Your scepticism may be natural in a 'modern' man... natural but not justifiable, because very obviously inadequate to the facts observed; but once you have seen, the first thing you should do is to throw all this vapid pseudo-science behind you, this vain attempt to stick physical explanations on supraphysical things, and take the only rational course. Develop the power, get more and more experience, develop the consciousness by which these things come; as the consciousness develops, you will begin to understand and get the intuition of the significance.

[Davino]

Reading through D-Limonene felt like an alchemy wisdom recipe.

 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Davino said:

Reading through D-Limonene felt like an alchemy wisdom recipe.

I didn't even mention that it can be used for non-toxic drug synthesis and extraction.

Edited yesterday at 03:45 AM by Leo Gura