Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[RightHand]

Before the cheese was, I am.

Edited January 11 by RightHand

[Beans]

I don’t like Rat God. 
why does he look like that if he’s a Rat God. 
I feel like I would only see Rat God if I was in purgatory 

Edited January 12 by Beans

[Candle]

On 1/11/2025 at 10:31 AM, Leo Gura said:

There are times to think and times to not think.

Eckhart Tolle is trapped in self-deception. He went extreme and became almost thoughtless. He does focused thinking sometimes. (Consciously). 

He doesn't want to be a philosopher, though he has a lot of potential. 

On 1/11/2025 at 11:10 AM, Rishabh R said:

@Leo Gura Ok then sorry. Let me reframe the question - How to act to succeed in most situations? Let's say 8 out of 10.

Wisdom and mental sharpness is the answer. Some people are so mature that they never fail. Like, you can't imagine Khabib losing an MMA fight. Of course, he is sharp only in the MMA domain. Not necessarily in other domains. 

It happens when your fundamental concepts are strong about a subject or domain. 

On 1/11/2025 at 10:33 AM, Rishabh R said:

For example , how to act. Like acting with presence is one of the best ways to act in the world ?

There's no best way. There are many great ways to live, each having its own beauty. You choose for yourself what's the unique and great way you have to live. 

I also had such questions when I was a small kid. I used to complain to myself that I don't know how to live. What's the best way to act? I still have such questions but I have more understanding now than ever before. 

Edited Monday at 09:38 AM by Candle

[Ohsee]

I do read the blog often. I don't really check the forums. I especially appreciate the older video posts on your blogs where you talk more casually.

[RendHeaven]

I do find chapstick to be redundant and unnecessary.

A simple tallow-honey blend is the best moisturizer I've ever tried - it has full face and body effectiveness, including lips.

[Vynce]

Regarding Leo's last post.

This is just wildly good. I discover just one per year like this.

[ryandesreu]

13 hours ago, Beans said:

I don’t like Rat God. 
why does he look like that if he’s a Rat God. 
I feel like I would only see Rat God if I was in purgatory 

That's because you're a cat. You worship Cat God with glowing golden fish.

[Beans]

5 hours ago, ryandesreu said:

That's because you're a cat. You worship Cat God with glowing golden fish.

This is factual 

[Yimpa]

Hmm.. all of the teachings couldn't be memorized even if you tried. They are constantly evolving, shapeshifting. 

[ryandesreu]

11 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Hmm.. all of the teachings couldn't be memorized even if you tried. They are constantly evolving, shapeshifting. 

The use of corporal punishment doesn't inherently lower the value of the teachings themselves because I could be teaching kids the same teachings without beatings.

What I think you're getting at is indoctrinating kids into a religion without them being able to question it shows lower perspective but even that doesn't necessarily guarantee. There's some kind of fallacy going on here.

[integration journey]

Rat god vs crocodile god.. who would win?

[Leo Gura]

@Yimpa @ryandesreu

A stick beating for the two of you for being deliberately dense.

[Yimpa]

46 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Yimpa @ryandesreu

A stick beating for the two of you for being deliberately dense.

 

[Ash55]

Not in the past leo all rural places in the middle east has that phenomena, few weeks ago i was walking next to a mosque and i witness that horror i also seen from my own childhood a child been beaten to memorize the Quran, i was smart when i was a kid i didn't let anyone beat me but seeing other children been beaten i guess is traumatizing

To answer your question trying to teach anything with force/violence is pretty low consciousness, the last thing you need to do to a child is to force him to do thing in a certain way or live in a certain way it fracture his psyche he might come up as discipline relative to that culture but he/she will lose any hope of following their own path or they would be radicalized to revenge 





About james cameron and his work, i was actually digging yesterday into his career it's insane, its crazy that they didn't pay him for the titanic for arguing he want to make the vision right

 

 

[Rishabh R]

@Leo Gura 

7 hours ago, Yimpa said:

 

Answer - Because a teaching forced is no teaching at all. Teaching must be learned not thrust upon. 

[RendHeaven]

39 minutes ago, Rishabh R said:

Answer - Because a teaching forced is no teaching at all. Teaching must be learned not thrust upon. 

But why? Why must authentic learning be free of force?

What about truth makes it incompatible with force?

[Rishabh R]

@RendHeaven Because something forced is not authentic. 

As per truth - It's either accepted or forced by nature onto us.

[gambler]

7 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:

But why? Why must authentic learning be free of force?

What about truth makes it incompatible with force?

The truth shouldn’t be something that people develop a bias against because of their disdain to it stemming from its association with their traumatic experiences. This is because you cannot rely on your feelings to get to the truth. All that will do is obstruct you from the truth. So the truth shouldn’t be associated with perverted practices like inflicting harm on a person since the value of truth is beneficial to you. 

[RendHeaven]

1 minute ago, Rishabh R said:

Because something forced is not authentic. 

Not necessarily.

I can overcome fears by "forcing" myself to square up where my "authentic" self would rather flee.

Other people can also help me do this by "forcing" me - for example my male buddies coercing me into approaching the girl I like.

Force IS compatible with authenticity. But it may not be compatible with "authentic learning."

The key word is learning.

Why can't I beat you into learning? So far - your answer is: "you can't beat me into learning because authentic learning can't be forced" - which is a total circular argument.

I agree with you on the principle but we're not showing our work.

4 minutes ago, Rishabh R said:

As per truth - It's either accepted or forced by nature onto us.

I'm asking a deeper question - let me phrase it to you this way - how is the domain of TRUTH independent from and greater than the human domain of coercion? Why does human coercion inevitably fail when it tries to contain the TRUTH?

[Rishabh R]

@gambler If Leo beats us while we memorize his stuff then there would be no learning but rather forcing the teachings on us.

It is true but people are at different levels of development, some people realize the teachings earlier in life while some a little later in life.