Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[r0ckyreed]

25 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Leo Gura, is that thought connected to your recent blog posts?

I wonder if this implies that there is an external world, meaning that reality isn’t just all that youre experiencing. For instance, there are many things you don’t experience right now that still exists. Consciousness can hide things from itself. If you think you have total access to reality, then you don’t get it. There are people who can see more color than you, can lift more than you. There are many things hidden. If you had total access to reality, then you couldn’t be human. This is what is meant by external world, that there are things hidden behind the scenes. Whether the substance is consciousness or matter doesn’t matter. It is the fact that you don’t have total access to reality. If you did, then like I said, you couldn’t be the human that you are. To be a human means your reality is limited.

[Nemra]

@r0ckyreed, let's assume by hidden he meant there is an external world.

I would say that things are external as long as you are not conscious of their existence. So, the external doesn't exist but can come into existence, and then it becomes internal.

I don't only think of things being external to be about me having some ability or not, compared to others.

[Rafael Thundercat]

I am still trying to grasp the beautifull text I just read in leo last post about Voters. No comments. The text is brilliant and full of golden nuggets if you have eyes to see. 

[Daniel Balan]

Question for Leo. @Leo Gura
In your last blog post you emphasized the importance of doing the work that is required in order to become a tier 2 human being.
I am watching you since 2014 with various degrees of frequency. But I am not well aware of what this "Work" entails. As far as my understanding of the work consists of:
1. Reading a lot about subjects such as economy, how politics works, capitalism, and so on and the books in your book list.
2. Meditating, contemplating, researching, and observing reality as is. 
3. Working on your life purpose. 
But here my understanding of the "Work" you mention ends. 
 If you are in the mood, Please write a response to this comment with all the things that are required to be done on a daily basis so we can say we are doing "The Work" in a complete manner.

[Yimpa]

19 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

I think this thread is the appropriate place to talk about this, but where did Leo go?

He last was on this forum on Saturday.

He was taking a long shebang to author the epic-est blog post of all time:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/some-political-lessons

Edited November 13 by Yimpa

[Nemra]

4 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

I am still trying to grasp the beautiful text I just read in leo last post about Voters. No comments. The text is brilliant and full of golden nuggets if you have eyes to see. 

Yeah.

I wholeheartedly agree that the problem is people's ignorance, mine included.

Who would want to actually admit that they are stupid? Hardly anyone.

Edited November 13 by Nemra

[aurum]

 Leo's latest text post on political lessons was poetry.

I have nothing else to add right now. 

[Daniel Balan]

1 hour ago, Daniel Balan said:

Question for Leo. @Leo Gura
In your last blog post you emphasized the importance of doing the work that is required in order to become a tier 2 human being.
I am watching you since 2014 with various degrees of frequency. But I am not well aware of what this "Work" entails. As far as my understanding of the work consists of:
1. Reading a lot about subjects such as economy, how politics works, capitalism, and so on and the books in your book list.
2. Meditating, contemplating, researching, and observing reality as is. 
3. Working on your life purpose. 
But here my understanding of the "Work" you mention ends. 
 If you are in the mood, Please write a response to this comment with all the things that are required to be done on a daily basis so we can say we are doing "The Work" in a complete manner.

Please @Leo Gura respond to this. It is really important to me and for all the people that follow your work. Kind Regards.

[Yimpa]

2 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

you are in the mood, Please write a response to this comment with all the things that are required to be done on a daily basis so we can say we are doing "The Work" in a complete manner.

The trap you are falling into is needing Leo’s approval on if you’re doing the work the right way or not. Don’t let Leo dictate how you should do the work. 

[Daniel Balan]

@Yimpa I'm not needing his approval. I think I miss some important aspects from his teachings about the inner work one should do! Due to the fact that I literally forgot, and I currently don't have the time to re-watch all the important videos.

[Princess Arabia]

When people say @Leo Gura  is all into politics now and doesn't speak on other topics like Spirituality as much, his latest blog post about the voting system says it all. That was pact filled with information and very intensely researched. The psychology of any system can tell us a lot about how that system was formed and how it works. Intense stuff. Never underestimate the power of the mind and it's survival mechanisms. It will fool even you and leave you in awe of your own ability to bullshit yourself.

Very well written and pact with very deep psychology on the nature of the voters' mind.

Edited November 13 by Princess Arabia

[Gidiot]

I wish I could send that latest blog post to every political pundit YouTuber and influencer that cares to understand why trump won and have them read it.

That was an excellent analysis of the average American voter and I will say I never shit on Harris as a hard lefty myself I always tried to talk her up despite all the problems because we are never going to form a coalition  with the right or maga but we could easily try with the center.

I know we don’t always get what we want but so much of it is not going to come from electoral politics and you have to use your voice in other ways. No one political figure will save you like the blog post says, you need to organize and mobilize based on your compassion wisdom and consciousness for fellow humanity.

as a comment on the election I was annoyed just how right wing the dems became on the border and courting republicans I wish they would’ve offered Palestine a bone or tried to explain to voters that mass deportations would hurt the economy but I don’t know if that would have worked, maybe their bed was made for them before and couldn’t have swung even though it was close in the swing states.

Things will get a lot worse before they get better.

I don’t think we will ever defeats the fascists unless their is a coalition between the center and the left like in France and I think the center needs to be more welcoming they are quite scared of trans rights and Palestine and raising the federal minimum wage and other rights etc. 

 

ultimately genuinely scared for the country and the next four years and annoyed that falsehood and corruption is winning but not giving up and going to do all I can to fight back

Edited November 14 by Gidiot

[EternalForest]

First off, it was nice to see a lengthy piece of content from Leo again, and I can agree with the issues of the public voting on personality over policy and the reasons he gave for it. And yes, Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein are much more preferable choices to Trump and Harris but in the stupid 2 party system, voting for a 3rd party is the equivalent of throwing your vote away unfortunately.

What I can't agree with is this constant demonization of Trump and calling him the pinnacle of corruption. Specific examples of corruption aren't given, and in biased fashion we're never given any evidence to the contrary. The Trump family has donated an enormous amount of money to noble causes and his book The Art of the Deal has inspired countless businesspeople and helped them pursue their goals. Doesn't that count for anything when evaluating his character?

I reject the idea that Trump voters have not even "bugun to understand" this work. Although I don't actively support Trump, I still voted for him because he was the lesser of two evils (between him and Kamala). Harris WOULD have been worse for our country in my opinion as a voter. Just because I have that opinion doesn't make me unconscious or underdeveloped.

[Miguel1]

6 hours ago, EternalForest said:

What I can't agree with is this constant demonization of Trump and calling him the pinnacle of corruption. Specific examples of corruption aren't given, and in biased fashion we're never given any evidence to the contrary.

You’ve been in the forum since 2018 and this is where you’re at with understanding Trump?

See, you are the perfect example of Leo’s blogpost.

[gettoefl]

Interesting to ask AI what will be the minimum amount US voter will accept in exchange for their vote (must be democrat or republican)

You will see it is an insultingly paltry amount.

The candidates themselves spend many times this amount on the campaign trail, for example paying megan stallion a cool $5 million for a 27 minute appearance.

Elections therefore are antiquated and redundant.

Just give me my money and let Elon eliminate this gross waste of everyone's time.

Maybe while at it, let's dump the silly law limiting presidents to two terms.

I am sure at least President-elect Trump would concur with all this.

Edited November 14 by gettoefl

[Ishanga]

I agree with Leo, the whole system is corrupt, he's got that absolutely correct.  But his demonization of Trump is a bit overboard, he's on the edge of Hate I would say and if push comes to shove he would do drastic things to make changes, You can hear it in his tone and his recent behaviour, he's calling anyone that supports Trump dumb and stupid which they may or may not be, but they have the right to vote for whom they think is the best option.. Trump of course is Corrupt, but we all Are in various degrees, and that too is evident by the behaviour we all display here on the Forum, things get too heated when in reality nothing we say here matters and is forgotten in a week or two..

Leo is not Realized I would say, he's had great Realizations but its not an Everyday condition in his experience, most of Us are the same as well. He's still reactive to a high degree and has solid Conclusions developed about things that does not allow him to see the full Picture of Life and Reality..

The system is severely Broken People! No matter who does what, things remain the same, the Masses Suffer living Conditions that we could fix in a short amount of time, no solution they offer really helps in the End because the basic fundamentals of this System don't allow it, it only allows a Few to Make it, the others pay the price for those Few to have what we all want to have, a basic life of Meaning and Well Being, because once that is set in place then Human Beings can really Live Up to their Potential and Possibility, that's not possible the way things are now, and no one person or party can change that unless drastic Changes take Place!

 

[Leo Gura]

17 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

Question for Leo. @Leo Gura
In your last blog post you emphasized the importance of doing the work that is required in order to become a tier 2 human being.
I am watching you since 2014 with various degrees of frequency. But I am not well aware of what this "Work" entails. As far as my understanding of the work consists of:
1. Reading a lot about subjects such as economy, how politics works, capitalism, and so on and the books in your book list.
2. Meditating, contemplating, researching, and observing reality as is. 
3. Working on your life purpose. 
But here my understanding of the "Work" you mention ends. 
 If you are in the mood, Please write a response to this comment with all the things that are required to be done on a daily basis so we can say we are doing "The Work" in a complete manner.

Well, it's everything I've ever talked about. So it's a lot of stuff to summarize.

• It's the doing of Pure Philosophy
• It's thousands of hours of contemplation and deep existential questioning
• It's understanding the 9 Stages Of Ego Development and working through each stage
• It's developing profound Construct-Awareness
• It's taking psychedelics
• It's observing your own ego in action and the egos of others
• It's study and research, reading and watching videos
• It's educating yourself about the world, cultures, geography, politics, science, various forms of spirituality
• It's developing a life purpose
• It's getting crystal clear about your values and principles
• It's the study of self-deception
• It's the study of epistemology and its many traps
• It's deconstructing everything
• It's understanding your own corruption and selfishness
• It's studying your own emotions and developing mindfulness over them and understanding how and why they work
• It's recognizing immaturity within yourself and working towards mature ways of being
• It's studying and contemplating the common traps everyone falls into

Edited November 14 by Leo Gura

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, don't you think it'll be good to post that list in a special thread?

[Leo Gura]

I have videos that explain Actualized.org values, principles, and practices.

[Yimpa]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

• It's the doing of Pure Philosophy

Leo’s PP here:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/introducing-pure-philosophy