Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Spiral Wizard]

2 hours ago, MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI said:

@Spiral Wizard not at all. It all depends who you are studying. I don't see anything corrupt with Todd Valentine's teachings. All he does is teaches you how to socialize with women. Where else do you learn such a thing??

You can't just approach women and have them like you. Their psychology is 100% different from ours. Guys who can just walk up to girls and spit game are genetic freaks. You cannot compare the average good looking guy or even an alright looking male to that of a Chad that has great verbals. 

To learn how to speak to a women doesn't mean that you are now "objectifying" her.

I studied Todd. His teachings are extremely technical and kept me stuck in my head. In his course 'the system' he literally presents a graph with dozens of ways to open a conversation, like what? That's no how you do it. Thinking about it all day and night, planning scheming, preparing, anticipation. That's all ego. Meaning unprocessed, unconscious pain. It's fear of rejection. Fear of pain.

The whole reason why most of us think at all is fear of pain. When we think we can't feel, when we feel we can't think. It's like Yin & Yang. So constant thinking is a wonderful, subconscious, and automatic mechanism to not feel all the micro and macro traumas we have stored in our bodies.

What about relaxing into the unknown present moment and letting that mold and evolve you? 

Alone the concept of 'why girls flake' is already so removed from genuine relating. It's a very skewed perspective. 

When someone doesn't show up. It doesn't need an explanation and it's 100% your creation & responsibility. Surrender to your pain and be enlightened by insight about how you attracted that situation. Then naturally this issue will solve itself. The lightning of pain can only hit that place once. Once the polarity has been discharged, the pain was processed, that part of you & the entangled reality are annihilated and a new pair / higher polarity reborn.  

Edited October 27, 2024 by Spiral Wizard

[Spiral Wizard]

2 hours ago, MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI said:

Sergio sorokin posts Todd Valentine's lectures for free.  I DO NOT SEE how Todd V. Is corruption or anything you guys are saying about pickup. He simply teaches you things you do wrong and how to speak to women. Not everyone is a natural at that.

You guys are studying low-consciousness and low-quality pickup artists. Without Todd V. I'd never understand why I wasn't successful with women. And Leo's "just be more social",  is a bunch of bullshit when you don't live in Vegas. 

Is Leo's pickup series corruption? Sure, it's not what spirituality is about, but one needs a social life and a sexual life. Sages don't get pussy they are recluse.

Also, women GET the guy they want out of the many that text them. They are deciders. Why can't men now be able to get the girl we want by implementing certain principles(don't call them strategies that is just demonizing the process).

@Leo Gura Is it bad to sell your soul to the devil for fame and sex? For me I'd do anything to get famous off my music and escape wage-slavery and i'd do anything to have a girlfriend again.

Hey man. Every teaching has it's validity to whom it's relevant. If Todd is helping you, all power to you and Todd. He & the guy from 5 principles of seduction are definitely the most genuine pick up coaches I had come across. 

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

10 minutes ago, Spiral Wizard said:

Hey man. Every teaching has it's validity to whom it's relevant. If Todd is helping you, all power to you and Todd. He & the guy from 5 principles of seduction are definitely the most genuine pick up coaches I had come across. 

That is very true. He is very very technical. I guess that's just my mode of thinking tbh. 

[friendly-truth]

The post about pickup is corruption:

I've heard of pickup from Leo, back in the day..."How to get a girlfriend video"..
It's been probably more tha n6-7 years since I watched that. I've watched a TON of videos about pick up, dating, relationship, emotions, communications and all the like.

I must admit, it wasn't as helpful as going to therapy. I've recently started meeting a therapist and man, did he change my mind about this whole pick up thing, and it kind of unstuck my mind from thinking in this way most pick up content is teaching..

Today I shared with him, how I was sitting in a coffeeshop and writing, while I saw a pretty girl, and I told him I've set to fantasize about how I could approach her and get her to like me, etc. And he questioned that. Was it my dream for me to get and work hard through discomfort?

I realized that I actually, in my fantasy I'm not working hard or struggling. She shows me signs that she wants me, smiles, looks at me and from there I go on and initiate conversation. 

It's kind of screwed up to think In the realm of unlimited options, my fantasy land, I'm still trying to trick the girl, or to pass her tests, or get he to like me when initially she doesn't.

And I realized that my mind is in this model of her being the one that I'm supposed to convinced, when a part of me really wants the girl to show me interest and for me to respond to her. I told him but that's not how women work, they are passive and i'm supposed to take this role.

Realized that there are these two conflicting sides - where one is fantasizing about a girl showing her interest, and another that's thinking it's a girl that's not passive so she's not the one.

Where actually, the girlfriends I've had were the ones that approached me! While I'm unable to overcome this social anxiety approach anxiety sutff - FOR FUCKING YEARS - i'm actually dreaming of the girl chasing me. WOW, and this whole mental torture of approach, and game...

 

 

Edited October 27, 2024 by friendly-truth

[AerisVahnEphelia]

America and the western world is an echo chamber. 

90% of the planet is still hellishly racists.

And probably less than 1% of humanity is really beyond it. If not less.

Fascism is the norm not something exceptional. 

[Nemra]

22 hours ago, Yimpa said:

#TBT

https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-019

That is some brilliant super-truth post!

[Extreme Z7]

19 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Muslims for Trump is like teens for Epstein.

Deer for Crocodiles

[AerisVahnEphelia]

@Nemra 

If I have any conviction about anything they are absolutely true.

If I say truth matter more. It's not me. It's god through me that is speaking.

I m the universe and so if I say A is A then A is A.

 

[integration journey]

18 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Queers for Ayatollah khameni!

Haha!

[Leo Gura]

Palestinians for Zionists.

[Whitney Edwards]

Baby Hilters for Leo. 

[Whitney Edwards]

Crocodiles for Leo. 

 

[Yimpa]

https://www.actualized.org/insights/2024-election-prediction

Quote

Electing Donald Trump to fix the world's problems is exactly like electing a fox to guard your hen house.

With that said, Kamala Harris is a mediocre and hollow presidential candidate. But, at least she's not a ravenous poison fox.

I like how Mr. Leo uses fox as a metaphor. It reminds me of Fox News. 

[Bobby_2021]

3 hours ago, Yimpa said:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/2024-election-prediction

I like how Mr. Leo uses fox as a metaphor. It reminds me of Fox News. 

If only this blog post went mainstream then that would turn a lot of sensible people from voting Trump. It's a Trump victory from what I see. 

Three comments regarding the last point with respect to pro Palestine, anti-war, anti-neoliberal leftists.

1) They are not anti Ukraine.

They are pro Ukraine in the sense that they think this war is futile, leading to the destruction of Ukraine, which is already suffering a demographic collapse. They want Russia to negotiate peace with Ukraine so that there will be a Ukraine at all. But west's attitude either you are with us or against us is leading nowhere but erasing Ukraine off the map.

2) For most of the people living elsewhere who have to directly face the consequences of the US foreign policy, weakening the US with Trump is a price to pay for weakening the American influence across the world. 

Which is why it's no wonder the destabilizing forces support Trump over Harris. Because stable America would destabilize the rest of the world. 

3) We are living in the age of post modernism, where all Truth matters. All are included. The worst kind of views now demand representation and would be represented. So it's logical that neofascist tech bros now demand their toxic view to be represented. Anything flies. There is no good or bad.

This also gives way for Trump to get represented and go mainstream.

[WritingHands]

3 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

If only this blog post went mainstream then that would turn a lot of sensible people from voting Trump. It's a Trump victory from what I see. 

Three comments regarding the last point with respect to pro Palestine, anti-war, anti-neoliberal leftists.

1) They are not anti Ukraine.

They are pro Ukraine in the sense that they think this war is futile, leading to the destruction of Ukraine, which is already suffering a demographic collapse. They want Russia to negotiate peace with Ukraine so that there will be a Ukraine at all. But west's attitude either you are with us or against us is leading nowhere but erasing Ukraine off the map.

2) For most of the people living elsewhere who have to directly face the consequences of the US foreign policy, weakening the US with Trump is a price to pay for weakening the American influence across the world. 

Which is why it's no wonder the destabilizing forces support Trump over Harris. Because stable America would destabilize the rest of the world. 

3) We are living in the age of post modernism, where all Truth matters. All are included. The worst kind of views now demand representation and would be represented. So it's logical that neofascist tech bros now demand their toxic view to be represented. Anything flies. There is no good or bad.

This also gives way for Trump to get represented and go mainstream.

"They're not after the countries, they're after me. The countries are just in the way"

[Raze]

What democrats could have done is start going after trump legally right after he lost but then offer him an off-the record backroom deal to stop if he agrees not to run

[Lucasxp64]

On 26/10/2024 at 2:23 PM, Jayson G said:

@Leo Gura do you know why everywhere I look on social media there is only support for Trump? Owen cook's comments, and even Eminem showed his support for Kamala harris and the whole internet is only talking about trump in Eminem's comments. 

Ew. Social media makes me sick in my stomach, I already find that results on Google are awful to begin with for most keywords, and long essays on YouTube and some forums/articles will have gold nuggets, and speaking with a LLM (ChatGPT, Mistral, Claude, etc) is much better for opinion-based information, even considering how flawed they are for logic and reasoning, they excel at lack of bias, even considering how censored the most censored models are.

The uncensored language models are also very unbiased and sane, I recommend trying them.

But they are still really dumb even then, I never found one that I can speak about direct experiential reality without it answering like the first articles that appears on google.

I recommend on duck.ai from it's from duckduckgo.

Edited October 29, 2024 by Lucasxp64

[Lucasxp64]

On 27/10/2024 at 10:09 AM, MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI said:

I DO NOT SEE how Todd V. Is corruption or anything you guys are saying about pickup. He simply teaches you things you do wrong and how to speak to women. Not everyone is a natural at that.

I guess the point is that some people make it into their whole lives building rotating harems of 20-100 women and lying to them like a tech bro high on cocaine pitching to his investors, as opposed to someone doing it more holistically.

Some guys literally run WHOLE BUSINESSES to build actual business funnels to attract women at an actual industrial scale, and they create fake events and fake travels for "photo shooting" to getting extremely hot women to join them on their yachts and expensive vacations, and they obviously do it for the sex.

Edited October 30, 2024 by Lucasxp64

[Davino]

The Melian Dialogue & Zionism. The post is of utmost quality, both in content and structure, a pleasure to read.

What are the mechanisms by which entire civilizations undergo paradigm shifts in their fundamental beliefs? The fall of the Soviet Union serves as one example where an entire population had to confront the collapse of their ideological framework. While we often discuss how individuals overcome personal illusions, what would this process look like at a societal scale? What would a systematic, conscious approach to dissolving societal illusions look like—one that respects human sovereignity while promoting truth-seeking? Could we develop methods that are as powerful as mass propaganda but oriented toward liberation rather than control?

[Yimpa]

10 hours ago, Lucasxp64 said:

they obviously do it for the sex.