Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[AtmanIsBrahman]

To add to what people have said, Quote 78 does seem poorly thought out. It's surprising to see this of Leo.

The most obvious problem is what would be considered a lie and who would decide. Lies aren't always obvious factual lies, they can come in many subtler forms. Even if the lies are factual it's hard to prove that the person wasn't just misinformed. A department of lying in practice would lead to totalitarianism. 

[UnbornTao]

Can't tell whether the croc meal is AI or real.

Edited October 26, 2024 by UnbornTao

[Yimpa]

 

[Thought Art]

@UnbornTao All Leo can eat these days…

[UnbornTao]

4 hours ago, Yimpa said:

 

@Thought Art

Cabbage Awakening for me.

Edited October 26, 2024 by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

We already have perjury laws and enforcement. It's not as difficult as you guys imagine. It just needs to be more strictly and widely applied and enforced.

A lie could be legally defined as statements that are demonstrably false and said with the knowledge it is false. For example, Bill Clinton lied about his affair, so he should be banned from government forever.

If it's just a matter of difference of opinion or perspective, then that is allowed.

A panel of 9 judges could oversee evidence for every case of disbarment. A jury could also be used as a check to abuse. Our legal system already handles such things. There would need to be reasonable evidence to get someone disbarred.

Lies are not purely subjective things. Lies can be demonstrated. The notion that lies are just a matter of personal opinion is part of the whole corruption. The entire legal system is based on subjective judgements of humans and determining very grey cases. How do you decide whether someone committed treason, or sexual abuse, or fraud, or racial discrimination, or patent infringement? Courts decide such things every day. It's not perfect but it's good enough.

Basically just apply perjury laws to all government officials automatically and rigorously.

Of course politicians could still mislead and deceive in other ways, but at least they couldn't outright lie about factual matters. Which would weed out the most corrupt and shameless politicians.

Edited October 26, 2024 by Leo Gura

[enchanted]

 

18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The notion that lies are just a matter of personal opinion is part of the whole corruption. 

Nice.

 

[Davino]

Leo don't you think it is your responsability to make an express Trump video or go talk on some show about USA election politics?

Just saying I would do my bit if I were on your situation. Call out the devil, shamelessly 

[Davino]

Btw, I would like to thank @Princess Arabia for the idea of making a Blog Discussion Mega-Thread. It had a very positive domino effect

[Thought Art]

I disagree with Leo’s election prediction. 
 

I also disagree with his view that Kamala is hollow. 

Edited October 26, 2024 by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

If only Trump didn’t take over from Obama’s economy… 

Well, Trump may win. It’s gonna be messy. 

[Ash55]

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

I disagree with Leo’s election prediction. 

I too i think Kamala will win just barely, I hope leo is wrong on his prediction lol
 

[Leo Gura]

The electoral map is not in Kamala's favor. If she loses one major Rust Belt state, she basically loses.

I have a hard time believing she will win every Rust Belt state. She basically needs to win 4 coin flips in a row.

I hope I'm wrong.

Edited October 26, 2024 by Leo Gura

[lostingenosmaze]

https://www.actualized.org/insights/2024-election-prediction

Funnily enough, Owen Cook also thinks Trump's gonna win the election:

 

[enchanted]

Maybe lots of women will secretly vote for Harris. 

[Socrates]

@lostingenosmaze I watched that the other day, it is so underwhelming seeing Owen being so clueless about politics.

The bottom line is if you dont have a model to understand politics aimed to progress a nation, you will dumb it down to social skills as the major skill to be a politician like Owen does.

People need an explicit understanding of systems, tools, and institutions and less airy fairy stuff, this was painful to watch.

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, enchanted said:

Maybe lots of women will secretly vote for Harris. 

That would have been the case with Hillary, but it wasn't.

Edited October 26, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura Huh, she seems like she’d actually be a decent president. Let the shit show begin I’d trump gets elected. 

[Thought Art]

So, people really vote on feeling and personality hey?

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura 

Is someone like Trump the strongest person on earth?