Who is more lustful, men or women?

[Buck Edwards]

18 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Ever thought about bad boy with a good heart

[Keryo Koffa]

34 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

Ever thought about bad boy with a good heart

Ever thought about fairies and unicorns? 😁

[Princess Arabia]

38 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

Ever thought about bad boy with a good heart

Those are the ones who truly have the good heart, they're just trying to protect it by projecting a "bad boy" persona. It's the "nice guys" you gotta watch. 

6 hours ago, AION said:

 

 

Edited October 6 by Princess Arabia

[Ero]

58 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Man bun and “bad boy” are oxymoronic 😂

[AION]

2 hours ago, Buck Edwards said:

Simply offering ample of emotional stimulation to a woman will not work. Yes you are right about the emotional roller coaster thing. Women like that emotional adventure in a relationship. Women hate monotony. But they also want value out of the man. 

What kind of value? 

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, AION said:

What kind of value? 

To sustain her survival agenda and identification; whatever that is at the moment. It varies from woman to woman and from stages to stages. This is why people break up or outgrow each other. Their survival mechanisms change, and thus their partners aren't useful to them anymore and is in fact a hindrance to it. Most if it is on a subconscious level, though, and most people use other reasons and excuses for why they're no longer interested in being with that person unaware of the true nature of why. 

This is why some women will stay or leave and other women will stay or leave for the exact same things a particular man does. It depends on that woman's....all I explained above. Value to a woman from a man varies from woman to woman. Men copying each other and mimicking each other's behaviors in order to get a woman is useless because it all depends on the kind of woman you're trying to attract and even then, to sustain that, it depends on what she's looking for and her survival agenda and/or mechanism and egoic mind identity constructions.

[Buck Edwards]

15 minutes ago, AION said:

What kind of value? 

Spiritual value. Knowledge value. Aesthetic appeal. Containment. Emotional companionship, sexual satisfaction, affection, mastery, belongingness, leadership, charisma, honor, boldness, she wants to submit and worship her man, she wants to know the why she is worshipping him. He plays a master role in her life. For men a career plays an important role as they don't base their value on women, they can be independent of it. Men need a purpose to strive for and they are very focused on this.

For women, the aesthetic aspects of life are more important, for her the man in her life plays a central role in her life, she thinks about him constantly, she wants to know that he is dependable, he is her source, that's why a lot of women are attracted to leadership oriented men because the woman relies on his masculine energy,she wants to flow with him, she wants to be led by him, she wants him to take the initiative, if he doesn't have the qualities and values she wants, she will be disappointed by him and subsequently lose attraction for him. He can initially attract her with his personality, charisma, confidence, sex and emotional roller coaster, but he needs a value subset to continue the attraction going. It's a full tkme job for him that's why a lot of men get tired of attracting and keeping women, because it's not easy to hold down feminine devotion. He needs a lot as a man to keep the attraction going. The initial pull off is easy yet the process is tough. He can get a one night with her but long term is a lot of hard work. A lot of women lose attraction and interest over time. Charisma alone is not enough. She needs energetic connection. She wants to admire him deeply. He should be able to give her the fodder to keep up her admiration for him. A woman is looking for something in a man, she wants him as a package, not just an attractive man with a dick. She wants the whole thing. 

For a woman, her man is her dream. So obviously he means a lot to her. If she is holding him in such high regard then obviously her expectations are high, she wants to know why he is the man of her dreams and he sort of proves it through his actions. That's his value. 

Edited October 6 by Buck Edwards

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, Buck Edwards said:

Spiritual value. Knowledge value. Aesthetic appeal. Containment. Emotional companionship, sexual satisfaction, affection, mastery, belongingness, leadership, charisma, honor, boldness, she wants to submit and worship her man, she wants to know the why she is worshipping him. He plays a master role in her life. For men a career plays an important role as they don't base their value on women, they can be independent of it. Men need a purpose to strive for and they are very focused on this.

For women, the aesthetic aspects of life are more important, for her the man in her life plays a central role in her life, she thinks about him constantly, she wants to know that he is dependable, he is her source, that's why a lot of women are attracted to leadership oriented men because the woman relies on his masculine energy,she wants to flow with him, she wants to be led by him, she wants him to take the initiative, if he doesn't have the qualities and values she wants, she will be disappointed by him and subsequently lose attraction for him. He can initially attract her with his personality, charisma, confidence, sex and emotional roller coaster, but he needs a value subset to continue the attraction going. It's a full tkme job for him that's why a lot of men get tired of attracting and keeping women, because it's not easy to hold down feminine devotion. He needs a lot as a man to keep the attraction going. The initial pull off is easy yet the process is tough. He can get a one night with her but long term is a lot of hard work. A lot of women lose attraction and interest over time. Charisma alone is not enough. She needs energetic connection. She wants to admire him deeply. He should be able to give her the fodder to keep up her admiration for him. A woman is looking for something in a man, she wants him as a package, not just an attractive man with a dick. She wants the whole thing. 

 

Damn i almost went gay reading that. 

Edited October 6 by Javfly33

[Buck Edwards]

4 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Damn i almost went gay reading that. 

Being a man is a tough job. 

 

[AION]

A girl’s value (youthful looks and fertility) is given to her by god and L’Oreal. While we men have to earn our value. That is why we aren’t the same and this should be accountant for in the value exchange that is called a relationship. 

Edited October 6 by AION

[Keryo Koffa]

1 hour ago, Buck Edwards said:

Spiritual value. Knowledge value. Aesthetic appeal. Containment. Emotional companionship, sexual satisfaction, affection, mastery, belongingness, leadership, charisma, honor, boldness, she wants to submit and worship her man, she wants to know the why she is worshipping him. He plays a master role in her life. For men a career plays an important role as they don't base their value on women, they can be independent of it. Men need a purpose to strive for and they are very focused on this.

For women, the aesthetic aspects of life are more important, for her the man in her life plays a central role in her life, she thinks about him constantly, she wants to know that he is dependable, he is her source, that's why a lot of women are attracted to leadership oriented men because the woman relies on his masculine energy,she wants to flow with him, she wants to be led by him, she wants him to take the initiative, if he doesn't have the qualities and values she wants, she will be disappointed by him and subsequently lose attraction for him. He can initially attract her with his personality, charisma, confidence, sex and emotional roller coaster, but he needs a value subset to continue the attraction going. It's a full tkme job for him that's why a lot of men get tired of attracting and keeping women, because it's not easy to hold down feminine devotion. He needs a lot as a man to keep the attraction going. The initial pull off is easy yet the process is tough. He can get a one night with her but long term is a lot of hard work. A lot of women lose attraction and interest over time. Charisma alone is not enough. She needs energetic connection. She wants to admire him deeply. He should be able to give her the fodder to keep up her admiration for him. A woman is looking for something in a man, she wants him as a package, not just an attractive man with a dick. She wants the whole thing. 

For a woman, her man is her dream. So obviously he means a lot to her. If she is holding him in such high regard then obviously her expectations are high, she wants to know why he is the man of her dreams and he sort of proves it through his actions. That's his value. 

Sounds like a lot of effort on his side for...   what exactly, a devotee with benefits?

I might be starting to understand what harems are about...

Edited October 6 by Keryo Koffa

[AION]

1 minute ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Sounds like a lot of effort on his side for...   what exactly?

To breed and reproduce. 

[Keryo Koffa]

24 minutes ago, AION said:

To breed and reproduce. 

All these discussions start sounding like this is what the ideal polarity is supposed to look like:

[Emerald]

21 hours ago, Tenebroso said:

It is true you just find it uncomfortable. Serial Killers, Murderers, Abusers, Drug Dealers and worse have wives, girlfriends and admirers. Just because you don't like it does not make it true. You have no serious retort to this.

This just proves that anyone can find a partner and that you have nothing to worry about.

Trust me. I grew up in a little redneck town with some really unattractive guys some of them missing half their teeth with poor hygiene... and some of these toothless unattractive smelly guys were abusers and drug dealers too.

And they can still get a girlfriend/wife.

And growing up there has shown me that any fears that ANYONE has about being unlovable or undateable or unmarriageable are totally false.

And of course, some serial killers and murderers can be charming (like Ted Bundy) and can lure in unsuspecting women who just think "This guy is handsome and seems so nice.". It's not like murderers and stranglers advertise themselves as such to their victims.

And then, of course, anyone who gets fame is going to have weird fans that want to be their partner... even if that person is a murderer. I'm sure that Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, and Eileen Warnos all had a bunch of crazy people that wanted to sleep with them for their infamy.

But 95% of women (and men) don't want anything to do with a murderer or strangler if they know they're a murderer/strangler. It's only people with issues themselves that are into that sort of thing.

So, think about it this way... "If all these awful people can find women who are interested in them, then I definitely won't have any problem attracting a woman."

[AION]

Just because murderers can get women doesn’t mean all men are now safe and are eligible for reproduction. I have some nice guy friends who look good, have good teeth, nice car and hygiene and can’t get a gf to save their life. 

[Emerald]

21 minutes ago, AION said:

Just because murderers can get women doesn’t mean all men are now safe and are eligible for reproduction. I have some nice guy friends who look good, have good teeth, nice car and hygiene and can’t get a gf to save their life. 

All men are "eligible for reproduction". I know this because I've seen very unattractive guys have female partners. Just look around at the world, and you will see this.

Any man who believes that no woman will be attracted to him is just misinterpreting his lack of success with women as an indicator of universal unattractiveness... when it actuality, it's other issues that keep them from interacting women women normally... or interacting with women period.

[AION]

33 minutes ago, Emerald said:

All men are "eligible for reproduction". I know this because I've seen very unattractive guys have female partners. Just look around at the world, and you will see this.

Any man who believes that no woman will be attracted to him is just misinterpreting his lack of success with women as an indicator of universal unattractiveness... when it actuality, it's other issues that keep them from interacting women women normally... or interacting with women period.

They have some self esteem / self image issues. I tried to explain them about psycho cybernetics but they have a very short attention span, they don’t understand it. And they don’t have faith in the power of the sub conscious. It will be very hard for them to get rid of being thick skulled so they can change their self image. So most likely they won’t reproduce because they are stuck in their self fulling prophecy that is caused by their negative self image. So most likely they won’t reproduce. 
 

Historically only 33% of men have reproduced in history. So saying that all men are eligible to reproduce is not true. Some men just don’t have it in them. It is part of natural selection which is not something bad actually. It is just is as it is. 
 

You keep reiterating some anecdotal stories but things work different in hillbilly sub culture. Those women in hillbilly sub culture tend to act different than non hill Billy girls. 

Edited October 6 by AION

[Tech36363]

@Leo Gura i just gave up on girls 😂😂😂😂. My advice to people who suffer from sexual frustration for long time, suffering from failure with opposite sex, Just give up. 

Just give up. Move on. Somebody has to lose in this system. It's okay. If you keep holding onto your ideals of women you will continue to suffer. Let go and surrender to universes will

[Keryo Koffa]

18 minutes ago, Tech36363 said:

@Leo Gura i just gave up on girls 😂😂😂😂. My advice to people who suffer from sexual frustration for long time, suffering from failure with opposite sex, Just give up. 

Just give up. Move on. Somebody has to lose in this system. It's okay. If you keep holding onto your ideals of women you will continue to suffer. Let go and surrender to universes will

Well, that's one of the cosmic jokelines, you get flooded by what you seek once you truly stop caring.

[Emerald]

1 hour ago, AION said:

They have some self esteem / self image issues. I tried to explain them about psycho cybernetics but they have a very short attention span, they don’t understand it. And they don’t have faith in the power of the sub conscious. It will be very hard for them to get rid of being thick skulled so they can change their self image. So most likely they won’t reproduce because they are stuck in their self fulling prophecy that is caused by their negative self image. So most likely they won’t reproduce. 
 

Historically only 33% of men have reproduced in history. So saying that all men are eligible to reproduce is not true. Some men just don’t have it in them. It is part of natural selection which is not something bad actually. It is just is as it is. 
 

You keep reiterating some anecdotal stories but things work different in hillbilly sub culture. Those women in hillbilly sub culture tend to act different than non hill Billy girls. 

Yes, I agree. It's definitely their own self-fulfilling prophecy. There are zero qualities that a person could possess that would prevent them from striking a match.

And I have my doubts that the only 33% of men reproducing thing is correct as a percentage. And to the extent that men have been prevented from reproducing in the past in a disproportionate way to women, it has come about from social structures that incentivize parents to marry their daughters off into polygynous marriages with wealthy, powerful men.

Right now, however, most women are in control of their choices in partner... and prefer monogamous couplings and aren't as frequently forced into polygynous marriages.

And I only bring up anecdotes because that's where I'm from and where I witnessed lots of unattractive men who had girlfriends, wives, and a fulfilling social life.

But there's nothing too special or different about how the culture in my hometown works compared to other places in the country in regards to how relationships form. That's just the time period in my life where I was the most social and witnessed people of a variety of different levels of attractiveness getting on just fine with the opposite sex.

And the main difference between them and the guys on this forum who are certain that they're not "eligible for reproducing" is that they were socializing a lot and interacting with female peers in the process.