Who is more lustful, men or women?

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Schizophonia said:

He looks a bit skinny, i wonder if it has played a role in his CFS development.

Nah, he did a 40-day dry fast like Jesus.
 

[yetineti]

@Princess Arabia No I do not blame you, ladies. But please remember I said it is wrong for me.

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Nah, he did a 40-day dry fast like Jesus.
 

Ahah.

[yetineti]

@Spiritual Warfare Emotions aren’t a sign of weakness; they’re what makes us human. But if it makes you uncomfortable, maybe you're the one who should step out.

Edited October 4 by yetineti

[Princess Arabia]

42 minutes ago, yetineti said:

@MsNobody Perhaps I am an outlier. I crave authenticity. Makeup feels inauthentic.

It only feels that way because you take it personally and believe you've been tricked. You take it as her communicating something untruthful to YOU, when it could well be something that makes her feel better about herself. The mind is what's making the distinction between working on your self-esteem in a more studios way as in reading books, therapy, videos and just dabbing on some make-up and nice clothes to do the trick. If the end result is the same, what's the difference. Only to the mind there is one.

Might I also add that a man is not going to put on raggedy clothes, and smelly shoes and dirty socks and torn underwear and fucked up hair to go look for a date. Same body, different accessories. There's no difference between a man dolling himself up with cologne, nice clothes and shoes and doing his hair than a woman wearing make-up. I'm sorry, there just isn't. Both are accessories and both are not who they truly are as a person.

Edited October 4 by Princess Arabia

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, yetineti said:

@Spiritual Warfare Emotions aren’t a sign of weakness; they’re what separate adults from children. But if it makes you uncomfortable, maybe you're the one who should step out.

You are crying because of the topic I started and the comments I made. I’m not the one who should adapt for anyone else, stop playing the victim. If you cry so much, then you can ask your mom to kiss you on the cheek, so maybe you'll get some kind of feeling of arousal.

[Princess Arabia]

9 minutes ago, yetineti said:

@Princess Arabia No I do not blame you, ladies. But please remember I said it is wrong for me.

No, I get that. Just look into why. Always question why. You don't have to, I'm just saying it may reveal something more to you if you're doing it right than about the woman wearing the make-up not being authentic. Why do you feel she's not being authentic. Is it because you value looks so much. Think about it without judging yourself, you might be surprised.

I've done this with my self on numerous occasions and got to know myself and my weaknesses many times so I could work on improving them. Whenever something bothers me about somebody, I ask why and it usually reveals something that I'm not comfortable with about myself. Just saying. Not speaking about crude, obnoxious and downright disrespect, but just subtle things or things that didn't really call for me to be triggered over.

[yetineti]

@Spiritual Warfare Actually I criticized you, there was public agreement from others and now you’re whining and trying to get an upper hand on me or something. No clue what you’re saying really.
 

If you’re done with the insults, you started a good conversation and I’d like to resume that.

Listen, I was being obnoxious before. I get it.

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[Princess Arabia]

7 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

You are crying because of the topic I started and the comments I made. I’m not the one who should adapt for anyone else, stop playing the victim. If you cry so much, then you can ask your mom to kiss you on the cheek, so maybe you'll get some kind of feeling of arousal.

You have gone a bit too far I think with the mother's thing. I think we all have a right to express ourselves as long as it's respectful, even if it's something we don't like. This is defaming.

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, yetineti said:

@Spiritual Warfare Actually I criticized you, there was public agreement from others and now you’re whining and trying to get an upper hand on me or something. No clue what you’re saying really.
 

If you’re done with the child like insults though, you started a good conversation and I’d like to resume that.

Listen, I was being obnoxious before. I get it.

I also agreed with you; but because I didn't want to instigate, I didn't affirm. Now, he has gone too far with the insults bringing in your mother into this.

[yetineti]

@Princess Arabia You have helped me reimagine this. You're right, it's not inauthentic if it's what makes the girl feel good. What I should have said is, I cannot relate. I am... ...very comfortable with the way I look. I couldn't imagine really changing much. I'm not super attractive, I just don't really feel the need for any social norms or anything, for better or worse. For instance, I just grew out my hair for like two, three years. Everyone said I looked great. I was getting a lot of attention. And it got hot out. And I just shaved it all. Because I was sick of brushing it as well. Everyone was mad at me. I forgot I cut my hair the day after I cut it. Other than the fact that I was just more comfortable. I've been wearing the same pack of Hanes t-shirts, plain, for years. I'm clean, but I don't have the need for fashion anymore. I used to buy outfits. I bought good outfits. I used to get complimented on my fashion. All I care about is people. And their personalities now. So when a girl puts on makeup, or does something to impress a guy, whatever it is, I guess I just feel like most people are trying way too hard. And I don't relate with that. Nobody's being inauthentic. Like I said, I was wrong about that.

For the record, I get uncomfortable when I see men playing social games and stuff as well. It might not be in the form of makeup or fashion, but trust me, I know the ways men talk and the way men lie, and it's just a different side of the same coin. I just can't relate because I'm not attracted to men, so it's not as personal of an occurrence or observation for me.

Edited October 4 by yetineti

[yetineti]

@Princess Arabia

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I also agreed with you; but because I didn't want to instigate, I didn't affirm. Now, he has gone too far with the insults bringing in your mother into this.

I appreciate that. He is just being obnoxious like I was not to long ago. It’s all good though.

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, yetineti said:

@Princess Arabia You have helped me reimagine this. You're right, it's not inauthentic if it's what makes the girl feel good. What I should have said is, I cannot relate. I am... ...very comfortable with the way I look. I couldn't imagine really changing much. I'm not super attractive, I just don't really feel the need for any social norms or anything, for better or worse. For instance, I just grew out my hair for like two, three years. Everyone said I looked great. I was getting a lot of attention. And it got hot out. And I just shaved it all. Because I was sick of brushing it as well. Everyone was mad at me. I forgot I cut my hair the day after I cut it. Other than the fact that I was just more comfortable. I've been wearing the same pack of Hanes t-shirts, plain, for years. I'm clean, but I don't have the need for fashion anymore. I used to buy outfits. I bought good outfits. I used to get complimented on my fashion. All I care about is people. And their personalities now. So when a girl puts on makeup, or does something to impress a guy, whatever it is, I guess I just feel like most people are trying way too hard. And I don't relate with that. Nobody's being inauthentic. Like I said, I was wrong about that.

Yes. If it's the one thing I've learnt in life is that it's all about us. There's truly no other and people are just a reflection of ourselves. When we interact with people, we get to understand ourselves more. What we don't like in others is not necessarily what we see in ourselves that we don't like, but there's something there that makes us uncomfortable about ourselves and the way we see ourselves.

Life is truly a learning experience, and if we can learn how to look pass the surface and truly examine our likes and dislikes, our triggers and angers, there's a lot there to discover. We don't need to fix it, just become aware of it so we respond differently because life is about responding not reacting.

Edited October 4 by Princess Arabia

[yetineti]

@Princess Arabia So, might I ask, do you think more women wear make up because they personally enjoy the way it makes them look or because they’ll attract more men? Or both equally?

Because I feel like the majority of women do wear makeup. Maybe there’s some trend where some percentage of women wear less make up once in a relationship - I don’t know. 
 

This could explain a category of people not engaging because of misconceptions of what is expected of them.

I think something similar can be said for men that believe they need a great paying job to even speak to women.

[Princess Arabia]

16 minutes ago, yetineti said:

@Princess Arabia So, might I ask, do you think more women wear make up because they personally enjoy the way it makes them look or because they’ll attract more men? Or both equally?

Because I feel like the majority of women do wear makeup. Maybe there’s some trend where some percentage of women wear less make up once in a relationship - I don’t know. 
 

This could explain a category of people not engaging because of misconceptions of what is expected of them.

I think something similar can be said for men that believe they need a great paying job to even speak to women.

Women aren't thinking about men when they wear their make up. Clothes, may be, but not make-up as much. From they're teenagers they're learning how to apply make-up. Cosmetology schools aren't teaching ladies how to attract men. Men took it upon themselves that everything women do is about them. About attracting them, when most times, except when it's intentional and deliberate, women are just being women. Men shave, women wear make-up. It's like you putting on a pair of jeans versus a pair of dress pants versus a jogging suit. 

It's a tool for attraction, but it's not the main reason why so many wear it. Millions of married women wear make-up, women who hate men wear make-up and Christians who aren't trying to attract, wear make-up. Geesh, Oprah wears tons of make-up; what man is she trying to attract. Ever see her without make-up. Why she care with all them millions. She feels better and looks better for it's own sake.

 

Edited October 4 by Princess Arabia

[Keryo Koffa]

[yetineti]

@Princess Arabia Interesting. Honestly I don’t know where the idea that makeup was for men came from. But I understand what you’re saying.

Makeup has become the norm, it seems. It’d be like saying ‘brush your teeth to look sexy.’ Nobody brushes their teeth to look sexy. We just brush our teeth and that happens to make us ‘sexier.’

I guess the difference could be that while makeup is just something that happens, attraction aside, it does seem to be quite altering. Not as much as implants or something but you know what I mean?

When I say I’m not attracted to it - my personality loves simplicity. Make up doesn’t ‘have to be done’ and a certain part of my brain rationalizes it away as bad for the skin, not needed, etc.

To be fair, I do this too much, admittedly.

Makeup is attractive to me as well. It’s when it wipes off on my sweatshirt or comes off the ‘disappointment’ sets in. I would’ve much rather just had the ‘natural’ woman.

Maybe I am being picky. I know we’re all allowed preferences but I wonder if this is sensible of me or not.

I just think a lot of men feel immense pressure and want to stop ‘playing the game’ entirely. Men and women can ‘level up’ but there’s not too many things a man can do as consistently and as effectively as putting on makeup. Or other things, like getting nails done, which more women seem to do than men.

There’s this idea going around that porn has increased men’s expectations immensely - true.

But makeup then almost does the opposite of that.

Because men also don’t realize how good they could have it as every girl seems so far out of our league, as makeup and the other things mentioned enable any girl with some extra money to look like a super model.

Edited October 4 by yetineti

[Yimpa]

 

[yetineti]

@Yimpa Exactly friend! 😂

[Emerald]

3 hours ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

@Emerald You are the most intelligent and well-spoken woman I have ever met. I want you to meet my family.

Thank you for the kind words