Who is more lustful, men or women?

[Emerald]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

There are tiers of itchiness.

That's true. 

To use my metaphor, I'd say I have a 25% itch towards Scooby Doo sex... and a 75% itch towards Gordon Ramsey sex.

Either way, it may come across that women aren't as lustful. 

But it's just that we're pickier because it's more complicated for us to scratch the itch in a way that's really gratifying. 

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Emerald said:

But it's just that we're pickier because it's more complicated for us to scratch the itch in a way that's really gratifying. 

Or, the lower tier is not as important because it is easier to scratch for women than it is for men.

$5 is worth more the poorer one is.

When sex is easy to get, it is meaningless.

Edited October 4 by Leo Gura

[yetineti]

@Emerald

Leo beat me to the punch. But I’ll still give my 2¢ as someone who has been quite intrigued by this matter myself.

First, I must say, your description of sex is almost exactly how I feel about it. I have felt my take is more feminine, for a man, however.

Then again, most men do not look into their minds and emotions as much as some of us here. So many men do not even understand what they want. I think they want what you described as well.

Like Leo said, there’s levels of itch. But I’d say there’s just levels of emotional capacity for men. Almost every guy I’ve met that has slept around a lot is playing a role. One they are almost never happy with. They usually had some dysfunctional family and/or idea of what love is. Also, women get pursued. Men have to pursue. If we stop pursuing it is hard to resume. So, many men, getting results, convince themselves of anything to not stop pursuing.

It is like a drug or how people with lots of money feel they need more. Except it’s guys acting like they aren’t lonely or not knowing they are lonely, because they’re having sex with lots of women and ‘shouldn’t be’ lonely.

But also the number of people having sex, especially for men, has gone down substantially.

If that isn’t a sign men want more than scooby doo sex than nothing is.
 

Edited October 4 by yetineti

[Emerald]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Or, the lower tier is not as important because it is easier to scratch for women than it is for men.

$5 is worth more the poorer one is.

I don't really think this factors in that much because we're really talking about two different modes of operating. And I can operate in both modes.

Like, I can have sex in the Masculine way or the Feminine way. 

With the Masculine way, sex is an a to b journey to orgasm. And I can get this through watching porn or even having sex with random guys I feel nothing for if I wanted to. And it's just very physically oriented and the stimulation feels pretty good... but not good enough to want very often.

With the Feminine way, sex is a non-linear soak in subtle erotic emotions. And I can't get this in any other format than fantasizing about or having sex with a man that I feel a deep sense of intimacy with. And it's mostly an emotional whole body somatic experience.

And it's the latter that feels really gratifying and motivating with tons of libidinal energy.... bordering on obsession. And it is the one that I fantasize more about.

The former is one of those, once a month kind of things where it's like "sure why not, I'm feeling squirrelly enough."

[yetineti]

@Emerald 
 

You’re missing the point that - yes, while men fall into the pattern you describe:

1. Not healthy for them.

2. Not a choice or preference.

3. Is a product of getting less sex on average than the average woman.

[yetineti]

Men are truly gratified the same way, through the same relationship patterns and same passionate sex as women.

It couldn’t be any other way.

Everything else is a game.

Edited October 4 by yetineti

[Emerald]

1 hour ago, yetineti said:

@Emerald

Leo beat me to the punch. But I’ll still give my 2¢ as someone who has been quite intrigued by this matter myself.

First, I must say, your description of sex is almost exactly how I feel about it. I have felt my take is more feminine, for a man, however.

Then again, most men do not look into their minds and emotions as much as some of us here. So many men do not even understand what they want. I think they want what you described as well.

Like Leo said, there’s levels of itch. But I’d say there’s just levels of emotional capacity for men. Almost every guy I’ve met that has slept around a lot is playing a role. One they are almost never happy with. They usually had some dysfunctional family and/or idea of what love is. Also, women get pursued. Men have to pursue. If we stop pursuing it is hard to resume. So, many men, getting results, convince themselves of anything to not stop pursuing.

It is like a drug or how people with lots of money feel they need more. Except it’s guys acting like they aren’t lonely or not knowing they are lonely, because they’re having sex with lots of women and ‘shouldn’t be’ lonely.

But also the number of people having sex, especially for men, has gone down substantially.

If that isn’t a sign men want more than scooby doo sex than nothing is.
 

I do know that most men do want more than Scooby Doo sex. It wouldn't be interesting to sleep with a man if that's all there was.

Men are still living, breathing, emotional human beings that long to love and be loved. And even if some men may deny it, the desire for sex is directly linked to the desire for connection and love.

But I have witnessed that men tend to be highly compelled to seek out sex and sexual pleasure for its own sake.... mostly because of the enjoyment of the physical sensations.

If we take away sex itself and we just think about self-pleasuring, you'll find that most men will frequently masturbate because they are compelled by the physical sensation and to seek orgasm. And this is where the Scooby Doo analogy comes in because Scooby Doo just enjoys the process of eating itself without much complex discrimination.

And as long as there is physical attraction to the image of the woman, then it will suffice to scratch the physical itch... even if he does crave for more emotionally oriented sexual experiences. And his desire for more emotional sexual experiences won't deter his drive towards orgasm. 

For women, they usually won't masturbate or seek sex as frequently because it doesn't really scratch the emotional itch that compels her more towards sex. And she doesn't feel as strong of a drive towards climax and the physical sensations associated with sex like a man does.

And this is why people often think that women are less lustful than men.

We are not. It's just that there are other angles we are focused on that take precedence over the raw physical element. And we don't generally get very excited by things like seeking variety either. 

[yetineti]

@Emerald We agree women and men are lustful. Please consider alternate reasoning for men’s behavior though.

You say we’re compelled. I agree. Compelled means forced or obligated. This implies a fundamental, external circumstance applying some pressure to men’s behavior.

What is this pressure? 

Men don’t know when or if they get laid soon. That is the pressure.

Women know they can get laid whenever they want. Obviously, safety, timing, social statues, etc. are all still factors. But those are separate worries. Getting laid is easy for a woman.

That is why you guys don’t masturbate the way we do and why we can’t just consider self pleasuring - separate from sex - as you mentioned.

If you didn’t know when or if you could get laid OR if you simply had to pursue instead of wait/choose - you’d get a lot crazier masturbating too.

But it’s just different games. I’m not complaining and I do not envy women’s side of things either. But to use your analogy of wine and sex… most men can afford beer… sometimes. If they could afford the wine and open a nice bottle just for a taste - they would. But wine is expensive. And the pursuit of women is costly (emotionally), leading to a spiral that all to easily takes over the status quo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 4 by yetineti

[yetineti]

Imagine men and women are both seeking nourishment at a banquet. The banquet represents emotional and physical fulfillment.

Women, in this analogy, are like chefs with access to a wide variety of ingredients. They can curate, choose, and wait for the best meal because they have more access to the process. They know that when they make a choice, it will be a meal worth savoring, carefully selecting what will truly fulfill them in the long term.

Men, on the other hand, are like scavengers in a sense. They’re trying to find a satisfying meal but are often left hungry or with fewer options. So, when they finally find something to eat, even if it’s not the best quality or what they were hoping for, they grab it out of hunger. As a result, this can give the impression that men only care about the quantity of food, not the quality, when really they’re just not given the same access to nourishment.

[Princess Arabia]

Things would switch up in a heartbeat if most men knew how to please a woman sexually, and I mean really good. You don't see teenagers or very early 20's women needing to be wine and dined, needing too much foreplay or needing to be in a relationship of wanting a lot of mental stimulation before sex, do you.

Most older women 30's and up will tell you they were wild in their younger days or had a few scooby doo (I find that term funny) sex and sex was more spontaneous and free. It's that they've been with enough males in their younger days and because the sex was so so; and now they need all that extra stuff to get them going and feeling ready. Men are finding it harder because women just can't be bothered for all that just to get let down if the guy doesn't please them sexually. After all, you are entering their bodies and sometimes it can be painful if they aren't fully stimulated.

I know I will get flack from some of you men, but it's just what it is; and you will tell me that I haven't been with the right men and yadie yada. All this women need to be this and women need stimulation and emotional connection stems from all that. Let her find her a man who really satisfy her in bed, he'll be begging her to leave him alone or he be saying her sex drive is high. No, you just know how to please her, and she just can't get enough. Most all women's sex drive is high, it's just they are more selective because of the cost of giving it up and she's been there too many times. Now, she needs incentive.

Go ahead, lay it on because I don't know what the hell i'm talking about. Young girls don't care because they haven't been there yet; and that's why a lot of men love young girls and virgins and women who don't sleep around. Not much to compare them to. Drunk girls in bathrooms and clubs and bars are less inhibited which is a state of being carefree just like the young so they'll give it up without too much foreplay which is a turn on for some men who can't be bothered with all that extra foreplay baggage if his intention is just to get laid.

Edited October 4 by Princess Arabia

[yetineti]

I don’t know how old we are or where we’re from, so things may differ. But I am a young adult male in the US.

Yes - most men have no idea if what they’re doing is correct in the bedroom. And most of it is missed through lack of foreplay as mentioned. Also lack of patience, just wanting to get laid, ED, etc.

Most importantly it is missed through lack of experience.

Men and women in the US are suffering due to gross misunderstandings and having less sex because of it.

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Do we not see the difference in our problems?

You ladies are complaining about how you get laid and we men are complaining about if we get laid.

Because you ladies know you’ll get laid soon enough, as us men wonder how we’ll get laid next.

This is the whole genders game!!!

I’m not complaining!!!

We both know the sex has to line up soon in the relationship. Naturally, unforced. But how we get there is the difference between a cat and a bird!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 4 by yetineti

[Leo Gura]

@yetineti Keep it respectful. Mind your obnoxious tone.

Edited October 4 by Leo Gura

[yetineti]

My bad. Sorry everyone.

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, yetineti said:

My bad. Sorry everyone.

Good

[AION]

@Emerald I didn’t expect gloryholes from you 

[Spiritual Warfare]

10 minutes ago, AION said:

@Emerald I didn’t expect gloryholes from you 

 

[Spiritual Warfare]

Women don’t have any idea what being horny actually means.

[Girzo]

@Spiritual Warfare has no idea that women get horny.

[Spiritual Warfare]

2 minutes ago, Girzo said:

@Spiritual Warfare has no idea that women get horny.

Someone skipped biology classes.

[RendHeaven]

1 hour ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Women don’t have any idea what being horny actually means.

bro announced he has no motion