Vance-Walz VP Debate

[ryandesreu]

Civil yet sharp. Unusually respectful. 

 

[DocWatts]

Perfect summation of the debate:

[Fearey]

My favorite was Vance refusing to talk about Jan. 6. I think Walz should've just kept pushing on Jan. 6 until he got an actual response.

Edited October 2 by Fearey

[kray]

Walz didn’t do a great job in my opinion. His facts were of course valid, but I felt that he was trying to rush the point at times, instead of cornering Vance’s points. While Vance’s points were non factual for the most part, he did a much better job at structuring his points in a smart way. 

[DocWatts]

15 minutes ago, kray said:

Walz didn’t do a great job in my opinion. His facts were of course valid, but I felt that he was trying to rush the point at times, instead of cornering Vance’s points. While Vance’s points were non factual for the most part, he did a much better job at structuring his points in a smart way. 

Perhaps a double-edged sword of Walz being a genuinely nice person is that he wasn't prepared to be more confrontational towards Vance's cascade of bullshit, in the same way that Kamala was when she humiliated Trump during her debate.

In any case I don't think it will matter much, by this point everyone's mind is more or less made up, and a VP debate isn't going to move the needle one way or the other.

Edited October 2 by DocWatts

[ryandesreu]

Walz must have prepared for a cascade of bullshit because that's simply what MAGA is. He just didn't execute as well as he could have.

Vance did a good job pretending Harris was President for the last 4 years with his good-guy face on. He sure has a lot of different faces.

[Leo Gura]

Too much Waltzing, not enough hammering.

[Rafael Thundercat]

 

So immigrants blamed for the Housing Crisis or Not?

https://theintercept.com/2024/10/02/jd-vance-immigrants-debate/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaZDl3ie3nTStxVKvenXQ-32dQh8sBKi8oOUahKdBcWZhfKCke0-aQx_-G8_aem_9rLEpHrnjkyDMoo0keIgbQ

 

[ryandesreu]

7 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

 

So immigrants blamed for the Housing Crisis or Not?

https://theintercept.com/2024/10/02/jd-vance-immigrants-debate/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaZDl3ie3nTStxVKvenXQ-32dQh8sBKi8oOUahKdBcWZhfKCke0-aQx_-G8_aem_9rLEpHrnjkyDMoo0keIgbQ

 

The top causes for the housing crisis for the US abroad is lack of housing, zoning restrictions, and increased demand from investors. However, in some areas such as LA or Miami, immigration is the primary cause of housing issues. 

[Hardkill]

The VP debate was essentially a tie. It certainly will not affect the outcome of the election at all.

In fact, if you look at US political history, VP debates have never affected the outcome of any presidential elections.

[ryandesreu]

He brings up an important truth that many overlook.