Sadhguru's Isha Foundation Raided

[Buck Edwards]

3 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Huge difference btwn the two men, and as with everything in the West, its watered down.. As a long time Martial Artist, every martial art that came from the east was watered down in the west, a black belt in the east is way more effective and knowledgeable than ones in the west, they have to travel to the east to get the "real" stuff, same situation here, the Yoga in the west is not the real deal, that is all..

You hit the nail right on the head! 

[Jodistrict]

5 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Huge difference btwn the two men, and as with everything in the West, its watered down.. As a long time Martial Artist, every martial art that came from the east was watered down in the west, a black belt in the east is way more effective and knowledgeable than ones in the west, they have to travel to the east to get the "real" stuff, same situation here, the Yoga in the west is not the real deal, that is all..

Sure, you have the Tibetan Lama that meditates in a cave for a year in the dead of winter and melts the snow with his energy generated from meditation.  You aren’t likely to find that in the West.  On the other hand, India has a talent for generating some of the most entertaining fake gurus around. 

Edited October 6 by Jodistrict

[Ishanga]

5 hours ago, Jodistrict said:

Sure, you have the Tibetan Lama that meditates in a cave for a year in the dead of winter and melts the snow with his energy generated from meditation.  You aren’t likely to find that in the West.  On the other hand, India has a talent for generating some of the most entertaining fake gurus around. 

There's no denying that, that aspect is everywhere, especially in recent times, corruption has infiltrated every aspect of our World, this is why the raising of Human Consciousness is so important, Corruption is the opposite of Being Conscious or Aware of Life and how Inclusive it is, if You fuck me over, Your fucking everyone over in the end... But sooner or later the West and the rest of the world will come along, its just plain old evolution, we are still like the cave men mentally and consciousness wise, but its slowly changing, the problem is that we don't destroy ourselves first before the World wakes up, we are too empowered today on all levels to destroy ourselves individually and collectively like in a nuclear war or other sort of major disaster...

[The Blind Sage]

On 10/6/2024 at 2:11 AM, PurpleTree said:

Has he really?

I mean there are Yoga studios everywhere before Sadhguru was popular in the west and even Sam Harris had a meditation app.

Yes, he absolutely has.

Yoga in the studios is not yoga lol...It's exercise. And not even effective exercise if you ask me. If you're looking for physical health I can't see studio yoga being better than lifting, pilates, mobility training, plyometrics, cardio etc. I guess it'd be ok for mobility but even then, if you're an athlete its such an inefficient way to train theres much better stuff today.

It's got bastardized sprinkles of authentic stuff in there like a few minutes of nostril breathing, maybe some chanting, maybe one asana in the sequence is accurate but even then, asanas need enormous levels of attention to refine your energy system, they don't just work because you've assumed the posture. It's adulterated stage orange/green trash, it's got nothing to do with genuine spirituality and mysticism. It's just a facade.

Also, you can't compare a meditation from an app to kriya yoga lol, they're of a completely different level of sophistication:

Don't get me wrong, there are other organizations that offer potent kriya yoga, but none of them even come close to the level of impact Isha has imo.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Dismiss Sadhguru all you want, it wont ultimately wont matter, this work is about you, not him. But to dismiss the practices, you'd have to be a fool/ignorant. 

[PurpleTree]

1 hour ago, The Blind Sage said:

Yes, he absolutely has.

Yoga in the studios is not yoga lol...It's exercise. And not even effective exercise if you ask me. If you're looking for physical health I can't see studio yoga being better than lifting, pilates, mobility training, plyometrics, cardio etc. I guess it'd be ok for mobility but even then, if you're an athlete its such an inefficient way to train theres much better stuff today.

It's got bastardized sprinkles of authentic stuff in there like a few minutes of nostril breathing, maybe some chanting, maybe one asana in the sequence is accurate but even then, asanas need enormous levels of attention to refine your energy system, they don't just work because you've assumed the posture. It's adulterated stage orange/green trash, it's got nothing to do with genuine spirituality and mysticism. It's just a facade.

Also, you can't compare a meditation from an app to kriya yoga lol, they're of a completely different level of sophistication:

Don't get me wrong, there are other organizations that offer potent kriya yoga, but none of them even come close to the level of impact Isha has imo.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Dismiss Sadhguru all you want, it wont ultimately wont matter, this work is about you, not him. But to dismiss the practices, you'd have to be a fool/ignorant. 

I don’t know i’ve never really tried it tbh. 
i tried some of his YouTube stuff but i found it ineffective. A buddy went to a talk of his. I thought about buying his book once but i’m now glad-ish i didn’t because maybe he’s a diddler of sorts?

[The Blind Sage]

5 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I don’t know i’ve never really tried it tbh. 
i tried some of his YouTube stuff but i found it ineffective. A buddy went to a talk of his. I thought about buying his book once but i’m now glad-ish i didn’t because maybe he’s a diddler of sorts?

You wont learn any proper techniques from Sadhguru online, you'd have to take an in-person program for that. Might as well use Sam Harris's app

His books vary in quality. Some of them are bad, just rehashes of his talks on youtube.
A few of them are pretty good, most notably "Karma, a yogis guide to crafting your destiny"

[The Blind Sage]

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