Which Mystical Path Is The Most Effective?

[What Am I]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

5-MeO-ism

This is a good point. A strategic use of 5-MeO-DMT has the potential to be more powerful for spiritual transformation than all the mystical traditions combined. It can blast you right to the heart of the matter. It's perhaps not for everybody, but it's quite the spiritual tool.

[integration journey]

2 hours ago, What Am I said:

This is a good point. A strategic use of 5-MeO-DMT has the potential to be more powerful for spiritual transformation than all the mystical traditions combined. It can blast you right to the heart of the matter. It's perhaps not for everybody, but it's quite the spiritual tool.

Would you say the same about 5-MeO-MALT?

[Davino]

Psychedelics

Walked all the mysticals path you can mention. Ain't nothing like 5meos

[What Am I]

29 minutes ago, integration journey said:

Would you say the same about 5-MeO-MALT?

Probably, but I've only used 5-MeO-MALT a couple times, so it's difficult to say for sure. From the reports I've read as well as my own experience, it does seem to be the only other psychedelic besides 5-MeO-DMT that is a guaranteed rocket into the coveted superconscious state. Very different from all other psychedelics, which merely dance around the subconscious level and occasionally dip their toe into superconscious if you're very lucky or talented.

Edited September 29 by What Am I

[integration journey]

1 hour ago, What Am I said:

Probably, but I've only used 5-MeO-MALT a couple times, so it's difficult to say for sure. From the reports I've read as well as my own experience, it does seem to be the only other psychedelic besides 5-MeO-DMT that is a guaranteed rocket into the coveted superconscious state. Very different from all other psychedelics, which merely dance around the subconscious level and occasionally dip their toe into superconscious if you're very lucky or talented.

good point. 

[Applegarden8]

I will show you the Guru and you can go to his Ahshram, you just need a plane ticket. Will you drop everything and go? He is very effective.

[Jodistrict]

The starting point is the vast knowledge of the East where they approached spirituality as a subjective science.  Western religion never developed the scientific precision of the East. The Yoga Sutras outlines any spiritual path.   The problem with the Eastern approach is the time it takes.   If you had gone to Adi Shankaracharya in the middle ages and asked him to teach you Advaita Vedanta, he would of said you weren’t ready and you would have to do service in hopes of being qualified to learn Vedanta in the next lifetime.  The qualifications to even be permitted to learn the knowledge were very high.  So you didn’t have any immature silly people running around claiming they are god.  The question is if we can use tools such as psychedelics to cut down the time it takes to get into deeper states of awareness.

[What Am I]

5 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

If you had gone to Adi Shankaracharya in the middle ages and asked him to teach you Advaita Vedanta, he would of said you weren’t ready and you would have to do service in hopes of being qualified to learn Vedanta in the next lifetime.  The qualifications to even be permitted to learn the knowledge were very high.  So you didn’t have any immature silly people running around claiming they are god.

Interesting point. There's no denying the barriers to entry are way less now, which may or may not be a good thing.

5 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

The question is if we can use tools such as psychedelics to cut down the time it takes to get into deeper states of awareness.

I'd say definitely yes in the case of 5-MeO-DMT. It's even starting to be used at reputable meditation retreats, in both breakthrough and sub-breakthrough doses.