The Biggest Challenge for God: Accepting his loneliness and finally Enjoying it

[Javfly33]

This is the Only Game in town...

Nothing has ever worked for no one in the external world, ultimately we never find satisfaction in the outside.

 

The final war and struggle of finding satisfaction in the outside ends by you Accepting your Infinite loneliness and embracing It to the fullest.

Going within and Realising there was never anything external. It was all a proyection. There is Only You. 

 

It is not a coincidence Next sadhguru Talk Next week is titled: "Within, the Only solution".

 

Edited September 27 by Javfly33

[Atb210201]

Ahh yes

But it's not lonely

It's unity, inclusion, connectedness, wholeness and completeness at it's best

It's I am you and you are me and we are one

It's love

It's beauty

It's everything

It feels good

 

[Davino]

Satisfaction is not found inside either. The same outward trap now is being done internally.

All things come and go, this is the nature of Reality. If one finds peace in this truth, then satisfaction may come.

Edited September 27 by Davino

[Someone here]

I don't follow. What does "infinite loneliness " got to do with interior satisfaction?  If you ask me ..that sucks ass to be alone . Do you enjoy the feeling of being alone ? I mean to a certain degree its fine .and to a certain extent. But like everything eise ..too much of it will kill ya .Imagine you woke up one day and found yourself the only human being on the planet ..what would be your feelings?

For some it would be heaven..for some it would be hell .

Edited September 27 by Someone here

[Breakingthewall]

god, or the reality, is in absolute perfection, absolute happiness, absolute existence alive, there is not loneliness. Just because a reason: there are not limits. It's like a yes that never ends, like a smile that is nailed in the eternity. The absolute is laughing always, it's absolute power, it's much more than more, it's infinity. This reality is not alone, alone is a human idea created by the appearance of many. Alone doesn't exist, is nothing. How to define an abyss that has no bottom and is alive? It's the glory of existence, where all of us are going to merge because we are that. 

Edited September 27 by Breakingthewall

[Hojo]

that means becoming and experiencing nothing forever and not fighting it. When that happens God deletes itself, the ultimate goal. Then you are in forever dream but never exist again.

Edited September 27 by Hojo

[Lyubov]

God has no challenges 

God is not alone because that would then mean there is a way to be not alone but absolute collapses all opposites. 

God fills all space and everything. 
 

You never feel alone when connected to god because it’s impossible to be alone because to be alone implies a finite end or lack of something. 
 

You think you are are alone? How? God is there 😁

Edited September 28 by Lyubov

[Someone here]

@Javfly33 weird . I don't know why you didnt follow up on this thread .is it because all the comments are disagreeing with you ?

well..i want to say that i don't agree with you in the logical deduction of jumping from :

A) nothing external will ever make you happy .

B) therefore only accepting solipsism will make you happy!🥴

Like the two things are completely not related. 

Although I do agree that solipsism is true .but let's set something straight ..you're not awake to solipsism because if you are you should have a life shattering existential crisis of knowing :"holy fucking shit ! Nobody exists but me and everything is a dream in my head "😵‍💫

for me personally..I know solipsism is true and no one is reading this right now except me ..but I'm playing games because well...there is nothing else to do .

So be dead honest ..are you actually awake to solipsism? 

Yes or no ?(with Sadhguru voice).

 

[PurpleTree]

Loneliness is just another idea.

Being alone in the universe does seem very scary to the human mind though.

[Inliytened1]

On 9/27/2024 at 2:13 PM, Javfly33 said:

This is the Only Game in town...

Nothing has ever worked for no one in the external world, ultimately we never find satisfaction in the outside.

 

The final war and struggle of finding satisfaction in the outside ends by you Accepting your Infinite loneliness and embracing It to the fullest.

Going within and Realising there was never anything external. It was all a proyection. There is Only You. 

 

It is not a coincidence Next sadhguru Talk Next week is titled: "Within, the Only solution".

 

When you awaken one of the realizations will be that you are completely and utterly alone as a God.  This is more shocking to God than it is terrifying.   But it is both.  God isn't lonely - it just terrifies God in finite form to realize that God is alone imagining all beings.  And that all Beings are itself.  It terrifies God because it is a massive recontextualizaton of everything it has ever known and now it has to live in that same reality that has been recontextualized by awakening.  So it has no other choice but to go back to sleep for the sake of the dream.  There is a lucidity there but it's not the same as knowing it Absolutely and directly.

Edited October 2 by Inliytened1

[Javfly33]

50 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

When you awaken one of the realizations will be that you are completely and utterly alone as a God.  This is more shocking to God than it is terrifying.   But it is both.  God isn't lonely - it just terrifies God in finite form to realize that God is alone imagining all beings.  And that all Beings are itself.  It terrifies God because it is a massive recontextualizaton of everything it has ever known and now it has to live in that same reality that has been recontextualized by awakening.  So it has no other choice but to go back to sleep for the sake of the dream.  There is a lucidiy there but it's not the same as knowing it Absolutely and directly.

the most close ive been to that fear is when ive done 5-leo-dmt but im not sure deducing from a psychedelic as 'truth'. At the end of the day is just another chemical hijaSo im still doubtful of the validity of 

Have you had that terror just with peak meditation experiences? @Inliytened1

[Keryo Koffa]

No, no, no, it's just proof that you don't have control over reality, else you could feed everyone insights telepathically, but there is a greater force at work here for the sake of this experience, and it has nothing to do with God being lonely because God can split and interact with itself indefinitely and illusion is just interpretation, while omniscience does not imply a void. Reality and your subconscious synchronize each other, as they filter imagination into actuality, of which the ego is but one piece, created out of the relation to the experience its perspective and unique sense of self emerged out of. Sure, everything is you, but there's also you as the fulcrum of individual experience, simultaneously, as is everyone else, like a coral with a thousand mouths.

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Javfly33 said:

the most close ive been to that fear is when ive done 5-leo-dmt but im not sure deducing from a psychedelic as 'truth'. At the end of the day is just another chemical hijaSo im still doubtful of the validity of 

Have you had that terror just with peak meditation experiences? @Inliytened1

There is a realization that doesn't admit any doubt: the total breaking of limits. This implies absolute emptiness, since any form blurs until it disappears, and it also implies what could be called absolute love, which is that in the total formless void, only something remains immune to the absolute extension of infinity: your substance. your substance is not reduced by expansion but is expanded. then total, infinite reality is your substance. Your heart opens and what you are expands. This is not someone who can be alone, it is love, and that is what you are. It is not you, you are formless love that expands to infinity, and you cannot understand this with your mind, and you must disappear.

you must die, and then, you live. you must abandon everything, and you will have everything. loneliness? Anyone who talks even the slightest about loneliness is not even remotely close to having opened up to the totality. Loneliness is just an idea caused by limitation.

[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

the most close ive been to that fear is when ive done 5-leo-dmt but im not sure deducing from a psychedelic as 'truth'. At the end of the day is just another chemical hijaSo im still doubtful of the validity of 

Have you had that terror just with peak meditation experiences? @Inliytened1

Yes.  It doesn't matter how awakening happens. 

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

you must abandon everything, and you will have everything.

That means that you have to abandon yourself. That's the most difficult point in enlightenment, because you can't do that at will because it's precisely you who have to dissapear . You should let yourself fall into the void and dissapear. Then a claim will arise: hallelujah. Not a trace of you could remains. 

Edited October 2 by Breakingthewall

[Javfly33]

9 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

There is a realization that doesn't admit any doubt: the total breaking of limits. This implies absolute emptiness, since any form blurs until it disappears, and it also implies what could be called absolute love, which is that in the total formless void, only something remains immune to the absolute extension of infinity: your substance. your substance is not reduced by expansion but is expanded. then total, infinite reality is your substance. Your heart opens and what you are expands. This is not someone who can be alone, it is love, and that is what you are. It is not you, you are formless love that expands to infinity, and you cannot understand this with your mind, and you must disappear.

you must die, and then, you live. you must abandon everything, and you will have everything. loneliness? Anyone who talks even the slightest about loneliness is not even remotely close to having opened up to the totality. Loneliness is just an idea caused by limitation.

 

9 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yes.  It doesn't matter how awakening happens. 

 

7 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

That means that you have to abandon yourself. That's the most difficult point in enlightenment, because you can't do that at will because it's precisely you who have to dissapear . You should let yourself fall into the void and dissapear. Then a claim will arise: hallelujah. Not a trace of you could remains. 

I get that but i why it is scary? If is good?

I also had the emptiness when taking oxycodone, but instead of fear there was nothing, just bliss for me and me...fuck love, love is fear. I prefer the empty bliss, thats why im a mr tree bleeder devotee 🤣 🤣 🤣

 

Additionally who cares about love? All beings are in their own world, the game is lost at this point, when one opens up to reality the rest of reality is not opened so they give you a slam on the door. Thats why my father hanged himself, he realized love was impossible with the devils motherfuckers, they were going to be devils all their life, so he said fuck it and im pretty proud of it for doing that, he probably attained mukti at that moment of fuck everything 😆

 

I don´t like the love, i like trascending the love, trascending the infinity, trascend everything, game can not be won, because game itself is karma and duality. it Only exist to go beyond it 

Edited October 3 by Javfly33

[inFlow]

@Javfly33 It's the biggest challenge for the MIND. God has no challenges.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

Additionally who cares about love? All beings are in their own world, the

Love is a word to define the substance of that you are made, and you are the reality. It's like the infinite void, by the fact of being unlimited, has a spark, a power inside, and that power It is inexhaustible, it is the source that flows from the infinite. You are that and everything that exists is that. It's absolutely obvious.

It is not taking 5meo and feeling love or perceiving it, in fact I have never had that experience with 5meo, it is disappearing and only the absolute emptiness remains, and in that emptiness there is something that opens, the one who opens is you, who is the emptiness, and what arises from you is all reality, absolute power, and that is what you are. You are not someone who perceives absolute power, you are absolute power without form, and that is love, because what we call love is the force of existence, then you have everything, there is nothing else to access, there is no 1 mm of doubt, that is enlightenment

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

get that but i why it is scary? If is good?

It's not that it's scary, it's that is extremely difficult. How could you dissapear? If you are with yourself 24/7 since you ve memory. You can't make the you dissapear, it's something that have to happen. A lot of meditation, 5 meo is useful to make the shell softer but never happens with 5 meo, because 5 meo keeps a part of the you, always. 5meo is a tool to promote that happens. To me happened with long meditation, with 1 puff of weed, in the bed in the middle of the night, in some moments. It's the dissolution of the self , then the substance remains, it's still you, but formless, without limits, but you perceive exactly what you are

[Javfly33]

 

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Love is a word to define the substance of that you are made, and you are the reality. It's like the infinite void, by the fact of being unlimited, has a spark, a power inside, and that power It is inexhaustible, it is the source that flows from the infinite. You are that and everything that exists is that. It's absolutely obvious.

It is not taking 5meo and feeling love or perceiving it, in fact I have never had that experience with 5meo, it is disappearing and only the absolute emptiness remains, and in that emptiness there is something that opens, the one who opens is you, who is the emptiness, and what arises from you is all reality, absolute power, and that is what you are. You are not someone who perceives absolute power, you are absolute power without form, and that is love, because what we call love is the force of existence, then you have everything, there is nothing else to access, there is no 1 mm of doubt, that is enlightenment

Ok, now i understand you. I agree with that and matches my experience except this:

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there is no 1 mm of doubt, that is enlightenment

Enlighment will be when you are conscious of you 24/7. If mind keeps appearing as the source of truth/identity, clearly we haven´t done the work complete yet.

When Enlightment happens there must be no option to go back to the mind or the memory as an identity, you can use it, sure, but we are still using it an identity. So absolute Clarity has not happened yet, is obvious. 

 

Edited October 3 by Javfly33