We Are Fucked.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Religious individuals seem to be thriving, gaining traction and laughter alongside atheists in this forum. They garner over 100K likes daily on platforms like TikTok and YouTube, and it’s evident everywhere online. It feels as though they have triumphed, Jesus fans is too strong. I must admit, I harbor a deep resentment towards religious people, and I don’t sympathize with them for being misguided. Enough is enough. 

When Trump wins the presidency, they will express gratitude to God, and soon enough, everyone will be knocking at your door, urging you to accept Jesus. It's time to stop what you’re doing. Don’t be fooled for a second into thinking life is worth living; it feels as if they have already won and will continue to gain power. The only potential shift could occur if Leo engages in debates with religious individuals, but it seems unlikely. 

Honestly, it feels like life is coming to an end. There appears to be little we can do; the brainwashing is far too strong.

 

[Schizophonia]

No it's your world.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Schizophonia said:

No it's your world.

Absolutely not! People are indeed accepting Jesus and embracing dogmatic religion. If living in a fantasy world brings you comfort, that’s your choice, but I refuse to ignore the reality of this situation.

 

[Schizophonia]

4 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Absolutely not! People are indeed accepting Jesus and embracing dogmatic religion. If living in a fantasy world brings you comfort, that’s your choice, but I refuse to ignore the reality of this situation.

 

No i meant it's you who see that, because it's you in deny. Your pseudo now is literally "Spiritual warfare" and you have a pp which represents the devil lol.

In my world i almost never see people who turn religious, that's not a subject.

Edited September 26 by Schizophonia

[Spiritual Warfare]

6 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

No i meant it's you who see that, because it's you in deny. Your pseudo now is literally "Spiritual warfare" and you have a pp which represents the devil lol.

In my world i almost never see people who turn religious, that's not a subject.

I don’t care if you don’t see many people turning to religion! It’s happening right now, yes, right now! Perhaps it’s not evident in your community, but the entire world will be affected in one way or another.

[Nemra]

Religious people are annoying as hell, but you are talking about fundamentalists.

I think normal Christians are blinded by fundamentalist Christians, and if fundamentalist Christians come to power, normal Christians won't have much to lose, imo.

[Joshe]

22 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

No it's your world.

Instead of saying "No it's your world.", why not first ask questions and try to confirm your intuition is correct? 

Come to the Bible belt of the US and it will be in your world. Christianity was on its last legs and some studies say it still is, but I've lived here most of my life and I can tell you, Christianity is growing in my area and it's not just some information silo I'm stuck in. Is it growing world-wide, IDK, but there most certainly is a marked resurgence where I live. I suppose it could be the "loud minority" or whatever that's called, but it doesn't appear so. 

When I was growing up here, Christianity was largely kept out of the public but this isn't the case anymore. There are more churches than ever, more church marketing efforts than ever, more social media religious posts than ever, more noticeable at school events, etc. 

Arizona state senator invites prayer group in chamber, speaks in tongues:

AFAIK, this is new. 

Edited September 26 by Joshe

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Nemra said:

Religious people are annoying as hell, but you are talking about fundamentalists.

I think normal Christians are blinded by fundamentalist Christians, and if fundamentalist Christians come to power, normal Christians won't have much to lose, imo.

The notion of a "normal Christian" is quite a joke. Every religious person seems misguided and should be sent to another planet. I would love to believe that normal Christians exist, but unfortunately, they do not. Every Christian I encounter online appears to be the same repetitive character.

 

[Applegarden8]

30 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Religious individuals seem to be thriving, gaining traction and laughter alongside atheists in this forum. They garner over 100K likes daily on platforms like TikTok and YouTube, and it’s evident everywhere online. It feels as though they have triumphed, Jesus fans is too strong. I must admit, I harbor a deep resentment towards religious people, and I don’t sympathize with them for being misguided. Enough is enough. 

When Trump wins the presidency, they will express gratitude to God, and soon enough, everyone will be knocking at your door, urging you to accept Jesus. It's time to stop what you’re doing. Don’t be fooled for a second into thinking life is worth living; it feels as if they have already won and will continue to gain power. The only potential shift could occur if Leo engages in debates with religious individuals, but it seems unlikely. 

Honestly, it feels like life is coming to an end. There appears to be little we can do; the brainwashing is far too strong.

 

Relax. It's not that black and white. Reality does not function just like that. Nobody is going to come and brainwash you except from some isolated incidents usually from people that are already in your life. Besides, do you think that Trump is religious, just curious?

Nobody has time to come and offer Jesus to you and me. They rather go to KFC and watch some tiktoks because they got to work tomorrow.

Edited September 26 by Applegarden8

[What Am I]

I realize those such as Ken Wilber make the suggestion that a fundamentalist religious viewpoint is a less evolved stance than an atheistic viewpoint, but I wonder if that's actually true. Sure, they're both missing all the nuance involved with what's actually happening in reality, but the atheist's view is so bleak and off the mark, I'd dare say I favor someone who's religious since they're at least closer to the truth. Especially when we're talking about non-Western religions. Of course, both stances are a plague on humanity that needs to be eventually overcome.

@Spiritual Warfare are you an atheist?

[Nemra]

@Spiritual Warfare, normal Christians exist. I see them every day. By normal, I don't mean that I can talk to them. They are a bit tolerant and more pacifist.

However, they would rather side with people who share the same religion.

[Spiritual Warfare]

7 minutes ago, Applegarden8 said:

Relax. It's not that black and white. Reality does not function just like that. Nobody is going to come and brainwash you except from some isolated incidents usually from people that are already in your life. Besides, do you think that Trump is religious, just curious?

Nobody has time to come and offer Jesus to you and me. They rather go to KFC and watch some tiktoks because they got to work tomorrow.

Trust me, it’s not like that. Unfortunately, a cult is not silent; it attacks. 

 

 

[What Am I]

17 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Arizona state senator invites prayer group in chamber, speaks in tongues:

This is outrageous, no getting around it.

But if we take their actions to be an honest attempt at genuine spiritual experience, at least they have the right idea. They're just heavily misguided.

Edited September 26 by What Am I

[Spiritual Warfare]

7 minutes ago, What Am I said:

I realize those such as Ken Wilber make the suggestion that a fundamentalist religious viewpoint is a less evolved stance than an atheistic viewpoint, but I wonder if that's actually true. Sure, they're both missing all the nuance involved with what's actually happening in reality, but the atheist's view is so bleak and off the mark, I'd dare say I favor someone who's religious since they're at least closer to the truth. Especially when we're talking about non-Western religions. Of course, both stances are a plague on humanity that needs to be eventually overcome.

@Spiritual Warfare are you an atheist?

That's a great comment! However, atheists tend to be more open-minded, which is a significant benefit. Religious individuals often disregard other worldviews and only focus on what their dusty old books say, which is a red flag. And just to clarify, I'm not an atheist; I misspoke in my previous comment. I was typing quickly out of frustration.

 

[Spiritual Warfare]

7 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Spiritual Warfare, normal Christians exist. I see them every day. By normal, I don't mean that I can talk to them. They are a bit tolerant and more pacifist.

However, they would rather side with people who share the same religion.

That's great; I wish I had met them. However, fundamentalist Christians can be quite extreme. I was in a live debate where a Christian stated he would sacrifice his son if God told him to, believing that God would have a good reason for such an action.

 

[PurpleTree]

Not in Europe

[What Am I]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

That's a great comment! However, atheists tend to be more open-minded, which is a significant benefit. Religious individuals often disregard other worldviews and only focus on what their dusty old books say, which is a red flag. And just to clarify, I'm not an atheist; I misspoke in my previous comment. I was typing quickly out of frustration.

 

Right, it's almost like a catch-22. Atheists are simultaneously more open to the possibilities while also being extra closed off to the ones that really matter. And as you say, those who are strongly religious vehemently claim you'll burn in hell for entertaining any philosophy other than theirs. I guess setting the example of what's really possible with consciousness is the best we can do for now.

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

And just to clarify, I'm not an atheist; I misspoke in my previous comment. I was typing quickly out of frustration.

Good deal, I figured you probably aren't, considering your username.

[Nemra]

14 minutes ago, What Am I said:

I'd dare say I favor someone who's religious since they're at least closer to the truth.

No. They care too much about being moral, often dogmatically.

Edited September 26 by Nemra

[What Am I]

4 minutes ago, Nemra said:

No. They care too much about being moral, often dogmatically.

Sure, but they at least believe in a multidimensional reality. Perhaps I misspoke though when I said fundamentalists may be more advanced. Their extreme dogmatism might just outweigh any advantages gained from believing in an expansive existence.

Edited September 26 by What Am I

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, PurpleTree said:

Not in Europe

I believe Europe will be corrupted by American stupidity. Scandinavia is the only safe place; I live here, but we are often influenced by American ideologies and all that nonsense.