About bullying, domination, 'devilry', etc...

[Javfly33]

Would it be possible that there is no such a thing as 'bad' people in reality?

If you really observe... why the one that looks for oneself well being and survival is the bad one and the victim is the good one?

For example, If I am a bully and to raise myself i bully a weak person... the 'bad' one is the weak person for not loving himself and looking for himself.

Is not me for looking for myself, because God created a Life that is about individuality.

The victim does not get victim for being in a weak circumstances!! The victim gets victim because of accepting that weakness spot!! It does not love or respect itself, if not the victim should fight back.

 

So is not my issue, i am not bad for taking advantage of a weak being in Gods dream...he is responsible for not being weak!! Not me! I am just a character of God and the game is survival so im playing. 

By the way, I have never be a Bully...in fact I struggled most of my life with inferiority complex...more being bullied for sure...

Until one day i realized...wait... The bully is not bad...The bully is actually doing things more right than me...thats why he Wins. And I lose. He chooses itself and i didn´t so he won and i Lost.

God rewards the devils and punishes the 'angels'. Because the devils are not really devils!! And the angels are not really angels! Is the opposite as you would think. 

[Schizophonia]

Let's say there are socialy non-desirables persons, because of their sociopathic behavior.

[Keryo Koffa]

You raised a good point about "Slave Morality", but it's a negative or zero-sum paradigm lock

[Schizophonia]

4 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

"Slave Morality"

Mr/Mrs has read Nietzsche eheh.

[Keryo Koffa]

4 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Mr/Mrs has read Nietzsche eheh.

Just my basic YouTube studies 😁

[Consept]

@Javfly33

I see your point, in some ways the victim can be somewhat culpable in not fighting back. But I think the dynamic of bullying would mean that there's a power differential between thr bully and victim. In some cases this can be very wide like a celebrity, let's call for example duddy and a non-celebrity who works for him. Duddy specifically knows how to manipulate and bully this person and can also put fear in this person that no one will believe them. 

We have to accept that there are going to be more powerful people tha  others in our society, the question is, do the strong people protect them or do they take advantage of them. 

[Leo Gura]

@Javfly33 No, you are a devil, just like everyone else.

Nice try.

Edited September 25 by Leo Gura

[Joshe]

@Javfly33 James Allen touches on this topic a lot.

It is commonly supposed that to get ahead in business, one has to deceive and play games. People justify their deceptions by saying things like "other people are doing it, and the only way to play against them is to play their game... if you don't play, they will take advantage of you and you will not win... you HAVE to play because it's the only way to win".

It reminds me of a time Leo said something like he doesn't own a gun and he said others might say "Well, what if you need one? What if someone kicks down your door and a gun could have saved you?" And Leo said something like "yeah, that's the risk I take by not partaking in guns". 

James Allen talks about the character you build when you take the high road and do not deceive. Sooner or later, the deceiver's karmic debt will mount up and their whole game will collapse, whereas the man who never lies and who builds his life from integrity will never have those regrets and can build on solid ground. They will show others that it can be done and in the process, will gain far more reward than the deceivers because they will earn the trust of their fellows and their psyche will be guilt-free and can rest in peace knowing they have done good. You cannot have this peace if you embody devilry. 

If you're interested in James Allen's teachings, I think they are in the public domain but here's a PDF of most of his works: 
https://1lib.sk/book/23422791/948a89/james-allen-21-books-complete-collection.html

Edited September 25 by Joshe

[Keryo Koffa]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

@Javfly33 No, you are a devil, just like everyone else. Nice try.

Can you make a video on how to transcend being a mere devil and become the demon lord?

[Keryo Koffa]

48 minutes ago, Joshe said:

It reminds me of a time Leo said something like he doesn't own a gun and he said others might say "Well, what if you need one? What if someone kicks down your door and a gun could have saved you?" And Leo said something like "yeah, that's the risk I take by not partaking in guns". 

I'm in a steelmanning mood, I will take @Javfly33's side & extract from his mind THIS:

Huh?! Didn't expect this to pop up, damn Javfly's mind is freaky! Oh well, point made

Edited September 25 by Keryo Koffa

[Javfly33]

23 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

I'm in a steelmanning mood, I will take @Javfly33's side & extract from his mind THIS:

Huh?! Didn't expect this to pop up, damn Javfly's mind is freaky! Oh well, point made

@Keryo Koffa LOL. I guess I was correct When I thought I was going to pick up some big karma by turning to the other side.

[Keryo Koffa]

46 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

@Keryo Koffa LOL. I guess I was correct When I thought I was going to pick up some big karma by turning to the other side.

Well, you know what they say: "Transcend & Include", karma is karma, "Gotta burn it all!" 😁
And there's way more where that came from, hehe

[mmKay]

Quick lazy post I'll edit tomorrow 

That perspective is rationalizing your selfishness and blaming the abuse on the victim. Typical mental gymnastics of abusers

[Hojo]

No one is bad everyone is in Heaven right now. We are looking out of heaven we do not have identities we are only as good as our spiritual connection to reality. Society creates dis unification with God as God cannot have societies they are a separation.Unless the society is perfect communism with no identity it has separation. The people become traumatized and the results are what we describe as 'bad people'. The bad people are still in heaven and are still welcome with God even as they do the acts. This is because there is no such thing as a bad act to God.God purposefully creates dis unity to discover itself even as a society this allows maximum exploration. There are no bad people in heaven.

God came down as Jesus and said we are all permanently in heaven.

Edited September 25 by Hojo

[Javfly33]

46 minutes ago, mmKay said:

Quick lazy post I'll edit tomorrow 

That perspective is rationalizing your selfishness and blaming the abuse on the victim. Typical mental gymnastics of abusers

mmm but you still think Abusers are the bad ones? Thats your Karma...

Surrender it and you´ll see the 'victims' are the same as Bullys...

In fact the mere fact that you have VICTIM in your vocabulary means you are still using the dualistic paradigm

In my world victim no longer exists.

My life is my karma. Im responsible for everything.

My biggest bully is my GURU. I bow down to him.

 

1 hour ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Well, you know what they say: "Transcend & Include", karma is karma, "Gotta burn it all!" 😁
And there's way more where that came from, hehe

💪🔥 

Edited September 25 by Javfly33

[Joshe]

I was a total fucking prick when I was 17-22. I was the epitome of "fuck it, fuck them, I'm looking out for myself, the world is cold, I will be colder". I would lie, steal, cheat, you name it... It took some time but the karma showed up and my life slowly turned to absolute shit and it only got worse and worse.

The lies add up. The enemies add up. Your reputation becomes known and you are hated and you hate the ones who hate you and you act like you don't care. After a few years of living like this, it becomes too heavy. Amidst all the suffering and acting like I didn't give a fuck, it eventually became obvious that I couldn't continue on like this. My options were either to change or to kill myself, so I thought that I would stop being bad and see if my life improved. I wasn't spiritual and didn't have any good concept of karma but I had good intuition and pattern recognition, so I thought it was worth a try to see if being good would solve my problems.

What do you know... by the time I was about 25, my life wasn't an absolute disaster anymore. After I made the decision to be good, I had to wade through my karmic debt for another 2-3 years, but eventually, all the suffering that came from it was gone. I didn't have anymore enemies and no one was lying to me and I wasn't lying to anyone else. I didn't hate people and they didn't hate me. This transformation was probably only possible because I moved away from my hometown where I incurred all the karma from. 

I probably would have commited suicide if I didn't stop because the consequences of my ways produced a life that was not worth living. You don't simply "burn through" karma of this type. You have to live with it and carry it and suffer the consequences and you might think you're big and bad and can handle it, but you should heed my warning if you embrace this path. 

It's not something you really want to fuck around and find out about. But... you gotta do what you gotta do. 

In other words, it is in YOUR best interested to not be a piece of shit. The person who benefits the most from being good is YOU and the person who suffers the most from being bad is YOU. This is reason number one to be good. It's not just about contribution or morality. It's so YOU don't suffer. 

Edited September 25 by Joshe

[Javfly33]

@Joshe Thanks for sharing very insightful.

 

[Joshe]

Anytime @Javfly33. Thank you. 

[Princess Arabia]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Javfly33 No, you are a devil, just like everyone else.

Nice try.

Love it. The devil at it's tricks.

[Javfly33]

@Leo Gura @Princess Arabia No. The devils are the ones that call God a devil. 

I am conscious enough Im Love at every milisecond of my existence, therefore any act I do is good. 

Is YOU GUYS THAT CREATE EVIL by calling me a devil.

 Leo you even literally created a video some years ago where you said that bad does not exist. Have you forgotten my friend?

By me not judgning Bullies and seeing that they are eternally innocent, I dissolve the ego structure. 

 

Edited September 25 by Javfly33