Why ChatGPT Is Objectively Better Than Claude

[Nemra]

Claude doesn't have access to the internet because of ethical, privacy, security, etc. reasons.

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Edited September 25 by Nemra

[Nemra]

Claude AI:

Here are the main reasons why I don't have access to the internet:

1. Design: I'm designed as a language model, not a web browser or search engine.

2. Static knowledge base: My information comes from a fixed training dataset, not live web access.

3. Privacy: Not connecting to external sources helps protect user privacy.

4. Predictability: My responses are based on my training, not variable internet content.

5. Computational constraints: Real-time web access would require significant additional resources.

6. Focus on language processing: My primary function is natural language understanding and generation.

7. Avoiding misinformation: I can't accidentally spread new, unverified information from the web.

8. Consistency: My knowledge, though limited to a cutoff date, remains consistent across conversations.

9. Ethical considerations: Limited access prevents potential misuse for accessing or spreading harmful content.

10. Specialization: I'm specialized for language tasks, not real-time information retrieval.

[r0ckyreed]

Good stuff. Claude is good in that fashion. However, having access to the internet would help it keep up to date on trends and other info. I noticed Claude said it avoids misinformation by not being connected to the internet, but Claude is making an assumption that it already has the correct info. The internet would help Claude keep up to date with most recent research. 

If Claude is really concerned about privacy, then they would require you to enter your password everytime. Instead, Claude just has you use your email with no password. That is some security lol. I think it’s pretty obvious to not post sensitive info online.

Claude is not the best for research, but it is very good for analyzing writing and pointing out errors. 

Edited September 25 by r0ckyreed

[Nemra]

2 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

If Claude is really concerned about privacy, then they would require you to enter your password everytime. Instead, Claude just has you use your email with no password. That is some security lol.

How is that less secure?

[r0ckyreed]

2 hours ago, Nemra said:

How is that less secure?

What I’m saying is that if Claude is so concerned about protecting privacy and security, they are going about it in an unusual way. They do not allow internet, but they don’t require you to enter a password to sign in. However, they do require you to confirm your email address when you sign into new device.

[OBEler]

Claude 3.5 sonnet is more human like and better to read. If you make roleplay games it's even more funny 

 

However Chatgpt4 especially with o1 beats it in everything else. Before o1 Claude was my favorite. Now it's clearly Chatgpt4. 

[r0ckyreed]

ChatGPT and Claude are amazing. They are both too good to not have both. I like them for different reasons. I find that each model performs differently depending on the question. For some questions, I’ll use ChatGPT and others Claude. I tend to default to ChatGPT for anything fact wise since it’s connected to the internet. If Claude could remember my previous conversations, then it would be my default.

[Thought Art]

ChatGPT told me it can’t access internet 

[Rigel]

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

ChatGPT told me it can’t access internet 

It can. Maybe you weren’t using 4o?

[mattm33]

This is what it said about internet. I have had to correct it a couple times. I asked which version I was using and it gave me the wrong answer.

[Rigel]

Ask it what happened in the news today. It definitely can access internet. It’ll provide links for the news outlets at the end of its summaries.

[Nemra]

The following is generated by Perplexity AI.

Context Window

Analysis

• Claude AI Sonnet 3.5's context window of 200,000 tokens allows it to handle extensive documents or long conversations seamlessly. This is particularly advantageous for tasks requiring deep contextual understanding, such as legal document analysis or comprehensive research projects.
• ChatGPT-4o's context window of 128,000 tokens is substantial and sufficient for many applications, it may require segmentation for very large datasets or prolonged interactions. This can be a limitation in scenarios where maintaining continuity over long exchanges is crucial.

Maximum Tokens

Analysis

• The maximum output token limit for Claude AI Sonnet 3.5 can reach up to 8,192 tokens, which is beneficial for generating detailed responses in one go. However, if not configured correctly (using the appropriate header), it defaults to a lower limit of 4,096 tokens, which may necessitate breaking down longer outputs into multiple parts.
• For ChatGPT-4o, empirical evidence suggests that the output limit varies between 4,096 and 8,192 tokens, depending on the user’s settings and application context. This flexibility allows users to adjust their expectations based on the task at hand but may also lead to confusion regarding the effective limits during usage.

Practical Implications

Use Cases:

• Claude AI Sonnet 3.5's high context window makes it ideal for applications requiring extensive data analysis or long-form content generation without losing track of prior interactions.
• ChatGPT-4o remains effective for many standard tasks but may require chunking for very long content or complex queries.

Performance in Conversations:

• Claude’s ability to maintain context over longer conversations allows it to provide coherent and relevant responses throughout extensive interactions.
• ChatGPT-4o can manage conversational flow but might struggle with continuity if the interaction exceeds its effective token limits.

Development and Coding Tasks:

• For developers needing rapid code generation or analysis of large codebases, Claude AI Sonnet’s larger context window facilitates better performance by allowing more code or documentation to be processed at once.
• ChatGPT-4o can still handle coding tasks effectively but may require more management of input sizes due to its comparatively smaller context window.

Conclusion

The choice between ChatGPT-4o and Claude AI Sonnet 3.5 largely depends on specific use cases:

• For tasks involving extensive context retention and the need for long-form content generation or complex data analysis, Claude AI Sonnet 3.5 offers a clear advantage with its larger context window and higher token limits.
• Conversely, ChatGPT-4o provides flexibility suitable for many practical applications but may require careful management of input sizes in contexts where continuity is critical.

[Nemra]

The following is generated by ChatGPT.

The latest models from OpenAI (ChatGPT-4o) and Anthropic (Claude 3.5 Sonnet) demonstrate significant advancements in their context windows and token limits, making them more suitable for large-scale tasks and long conversations or document analysis.

Context Window:

• Claude 3.5 Sonnet offers an impressive 200,000-token context window, allowing it to handle very large inputs such as entire books or hundreds of pages of documents. This capacity is ideal for analyzing large datasets, complex documents, or maintaining long conversations without losing context. It can manage up to approximately 500 pages of text, which equals about 150,000 words.
• ChatGPT-4o also has a robust 128,000-token context window, an improvement over previous versions of GPT-4. While smaller than Claude's, this context window can still handle around 300 pages of text, or 90,000 words, making it highly capable of analyzing long-form content and maintaining coherence over extensive interactions.

Output Token Limits:

• Claude 3.5 Sonnet allows a maximum output of 4,096 tokens in most cases, with some beta configurations supporting up to 8,192 tokens. However, even with the high context window, its output per response remains limited to this range, meaning that extremely long outputs would need to be split across multiple responses.
• ChatGPT-4o offers a similar output range, generating around 4,096 tokens per interaction, though some reports suggest it can go up to 8,192 tokens in certain cases. This makes it suitable for generating complex answers but may require managing outputs in stages for very lengthy responses.

Application & Performance:

• Claude 3.5 Sonnet excels in tasks involving reasoning, long document summarization, and coding, often outperforming GPT-4o in benchmarks related to reasoning and coding accuracy. For example, it achieved a 92% score in the HumanEval benchmark for coding tasks, compared to GPT-4o's 90.2%. Its larger context window is especially useful for maintaining context in extended interactions, making it a strong choice for long documents or intricate conversations.
• ChatGPT-4o, while not as strong in reasoning over extended contexts, performs better in natural language understanding, math, and visual tasks like diagram interpretation. It is also more feature-rich, offering multimodal capabilities such as image recognition, which Claude 3.5 lacks.

In summary, Claude 3.5 Sonnet is highly suitable for users needing extended context and reasoning over long interactions, especially in coding or document-intensive tasks. GPT-4o, while slightly behind in raw context handling, remains a versatile option with superior features for a broader range of applications, including multimodal tasks and faster response times.

[Nemra]

Introducing computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

[RightHand]

For coding, I find Claude much much better than GPT 4o or o1.

But for everyday use, yeah, 4o all the way baby.

Edited October 24 by RightHand