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Why ChatGPT Is Objectively Better Than Claude

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I have used both and have paid for subscriptions for GPT-4 and Claude 3.5. From using both for the past few months, I have to say that ChatGPT is superior in many ways. If you are looking for an all around decent AI, ChatGPT is the way to go.

Here are my reasons why I like ChatGPT better than Claude:

1. ChatGPT is connected to the internet and can cite you links to the sources it used. This is good for research. Claude cannot do this.

2. ChatGPT remembers your conversations. Claude doesn’t.

3. ChatGPT I have noticed gives more detailed answers. I ask it for lists and it comes up with more than Claude does.

The only thing I have found Claude to be superior to ChatGPT at is in terms of writing. It is really good at logical reasoning, discussions, and analyzing writing. I often find myself using GPT first and then I double check with Claude. I have found that ChatGPT sometimes overlooks errors in writing and logical reasoning whereas Claude is better at noticing that and providing nuance. I like how Claude also is more direct, whereas GPT can be highly agreeable. Both apps are good. But if I had to choose one, it would be GPT.

Which do you think is better?

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“Our most valuable resource is not time, but rather it is consciousness itself. Consciousness is the basis for everything, and without it, there could be no time and no resource possible. It is only through consciousness and its cultivation that one’s passions, one’s focus, one’s curiosity, one’s time, and one’s capacity to love can be actualized and lived to the fullest.” - r0ckyreed

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Chatgpt is better hands down. 


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Have used both on full subscription for general and technical work. Whilst GPT is more formulaic/ PG, on coding, image generation and now reasoning tasks with o1 it is by far superior.


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What kind of stuff do you use chat gpt or Claude for? I haven’t used either but how would you recommend using those tools? 

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5 hours ago, r0ckyreed said:

ChatGPT is connected to the internet and can cite you links to the sources it used. This is good for research. Claude cannot do this.

If you want the latest data, then yes.

5 hours ago, r0ckyreed said:

ChatGPT remembers your conversations. Claude doesn’t.

What do you mean?

5 hours ago, r0ckyreed said:

ChatGPT I have noticed gives more detailed answers. I ask it for lists and it comes up with more than Claude does.

Maybe you have to ask differently.

By the way, you can ask them about what kind of outputs they can provide.

5 hours ago, r0ckyreed said:

The only thing I have found Claude to be superior to ChatGPT at is in terms of writing. It is really good at logical reasoning, discussions, and analyzing writing.

That's the thing I love about Claude AI.

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ChatGPT can remember things you’ve said in previous conversations. When you open up a new chat in Claude, it does not recall who you are or what you talked about. ChatGPT knows I am a 27 year old male and other details about me and my conversations. It will literally bring things up I’ve said in previous conversations. This makes GPT superior in my book. 

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“Our most valuable resource is not time, but rather it is consciousness itself. Consciousness is the basis for everything, and without it, there could be no time and no resource possible. It is only through consciousness and its cultivation that one’s passions, one’s focus, one’s curiosity, one’s time, and one’s capacity to love can be actualized and lived to the fullest.” - r0ckyreed

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Here’s an example of GPT vs Claude:

Me: What is self image, self-esteem and self-worth?

GPT: 

**Self-image** refers to the mental picture or idea one has about themselves. It includes how you see your physical appearance, personality traits, abilities, and roles in different areas of life. This image is influenced by past experiences, relationships, and societal expectations, and can be positive, negative, or somewhere in between.

**Self-esteem** is the evaluation of your self-image—how much you appreciate and value yourself. It's about the overall judgment of your worth, abilities, and qualities, often influenced by how you perceive others see you, achievements, and life experiences. High self-esteem means having a positive, appreciative view of oneself, while low self-esteem reflects feelings of inadequacy or inferiority.

**Self-worth** goes deeper than self-esteem and is the belief that you are inherently valuable, deserving of love, respect, and good things, simply because you exist. It’s an intrinsic sense of worthiness that isn’t tied to external achievements, validation, or circumstances. A healthy sense of self-worth means seeing yourself as worthy regardless of successes or failures. 

In essence, self-image shapes how you see yourself, self-esteem evaluates how you feel about that image, and self-worth defines your inherent value as a person.

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Me: What is self-worth self image self-esteem?

Claude: 

Self-worth, self-image, and self-esteem are related psychological concepts that describe how individuals perceive and value themselves:

1. Self-worth:
- The sense of one's own value or worth as a person
- Belief that you are valuable as a human being, regardless of external factors

2. Self-image:
- The mental picture or perception you have of yourself
- Includes how you see your physical appearance, personality traits, and abilities

3. Self-esteem:
- Overall evaluation or appraisal of one's own worth
- Encompasses beliefs about oneself and emotional states, such as triumph, despair, pride, and shame

These concepts are interconnected:
- Self-image contributes to self-esteem
- Self-worth influences and is influenced by self-esteem
- A positive self-image can lead to higher self-esteem and a stronger sense of self-worth

Would you like me to elaborate on any of these concepts or their relationships?

 

See how ChatGPT gives more in-depth analysis? 

ChatGPT is objectively superior.

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“Our most valuable resource is not time, but rather it is consciousness itself. Consciousness is the basis for everything, and without it, there could be no time and no resource possible. It is only through consciousness and its cultivation that one’s passions, one’s focus, one’s curiosity, one’s time, and one’s capacity to love can be actualized and lived to the fullest.” - r0ckyreed

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Claude AI:

Self-worth, self-image, and self-esteem are closely related psychological concepts that deal with how individuals perceive and value themselves:

1. Self-worth:

This refers to the sense of one's own value or worth as a person. It's an internal sense of being good enough and worthy of love and belonging, regardless of external factors like achievements or others' opinions.

2. Self-image:

This is the mental picture or perception that a person has of themselves, including their appearance, abilities, personality traits, and roles in life. It's how you see yourself, which may or may not align with how others see you or reality.

3. Self-esteem:

This is the overall evaluation or appraisal of one's own worth. It encompasses beliefs about oneself (e.g., "I am competent," "I am worthy") and emotional states, such as triumph, despair, pride, and shame. High self-esteem means having a generally positive overall evaluation of oneself.

These concepts are interconnected:

- Self-image contributes to self-esteem, as how you perceive yourself influences how you feel about yourself.

- Self-worth can be seen as the foundation for healthy self-esteem, as it's about valuing oneself intrinsically rather than based on external factors.

- A positive self-image and high self-esteem can reinforce a sense of self-worth, and vice versa.

Developing and maintaining healthy levels of self-worth, a positive self-image, and high self-esteem are important for mental health and well-being. They can influence one's relationships, decision-making, and overall life satisfaction.

Would you like me to elaborate on any specific aspect of these concepts?

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Well, it provides different answers for me.

I think if you want to immediately get an answer from an AI, maybe ChatGPT would be better than Claude AI (although I'm not sure), but to get in-depth responses, you have to ask more questions from different angles.

The answers depend on the quantity and quality of the questions and the model that you are using.

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41 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Claude AI:

Self-worth, self-image, and self-esteem are closely related psychological concepts that deal with how individuals perceive and value themselves:

1. Self-worth:

This refers to the sense of one's own value or worth as a person. It's an internal sense of being good enough and worthy of love and belonging, regardless of external factors like achievements or others' opinions.

2. Self-image:

This is the mental picture or perception that a person has of themselves, including their appearance, abilities, personality traits, and roles in life. It's how you see yourself, which may or may not align with how others see you or reality.

3. Self-esteem:

This is the overall evaluation or appraisal of one's own worth. It encompasses beliefs about oneself (e.g., "I am competent," "I am worthy") and emotional states, such as triumph, despair, pride, and shame. High self-esteem means having a generally positive overall evaluation of oneself.

These concepts are interconnected:

- Self-image contributes to self-esteem, as how you perceive yourself influences how you feel about yourself.

- Self-worth can be seen as the foundation for healthy self-esteem, as it's about valuing oneself intrinsically rather than based on external factors.

- A positive self-image and high self-esteem can reinforce a sense of self-worth, and vice versa.

Developing and maintaining healthy levels of self-worth, a positive self-image, and high self-esteem are important for mental health and well-being. They can influence one's relationships, decision-making, and overall life satisfaction.

Would you like me to elaborate on any specific aspect of these concepts?

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Well, it provides different answers for me.

I think if you want to immediately get an answer from an AI, maybe ChatGPT would be better than Claude AI (although I'm not sure), but to get in-depth responses, you have to ask more questions from different angles.

The answers depend on the quantity and quality of the questions and the model that you are using.

Now do GPT and compare.


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41 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@r0ckyreed, have you subscribed to the Pro plan for Claude AI?

Yes I have. 3.5 Sonnet

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“Our most valuable resource is not time, but rather it is consciousness itself. Consciousness is the basis for everything, and without it, there could be no time and no resource possible. It is only through consciousness and its cultivation that one’s passions, one’s focus, one’s curiosity, one’s time, and one’s capacity to love can be actualized and lived to the fullest.” - r0ckyreed

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ChatGPT:

Self-image, self-esteem, and self-worth are related but distinct concepts that shape how individuals perceive themselves and their value in the world.

1. Self-Image: This refers to the mental picture or idea one has of oneself. It includes how you see your physical appearance, personality traits, and abilities. Self-image is shaped by personal experiences, feedback from others, and how you compare yourself to others.

2. Self-Esteem: Self-esteem is the evaluation or judgment one makes about their self-image. It refers to how much you like, approve of, or value yourself. High self-esteem reflects a positive self-evaluation, while low self-esteem suggests feelings of inadequacy or inferiority.

3. Self-Worth: Self-worth is a deeper and more fundamental sense of one's value as a person, independent of external achievements or validation. It is the inherent belief that you are worthy of love, respect, and happiness simply because you exist, regardless of your performance or the opinions of others.

In summary:

Self-image is how you see yourself.

Self-esteem is how you feel about what you see.

Self-worth is the intrinsic sense that you are valuable as a person, regardless of external circumstances.

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Just now, Sandhu said:

@r0ckyreed Objectively?

Sure. If you get rid of your biases and look at it objectively, GPT has more features than Claude and performs better overall.

Just evaluate it objectively. It is like saying who is smarter, Elon Musk or Tesla? There is an objective answer to the question. Look objectively at their cognitive development. Now, apply that to GPT vs. Claude. Look at the developments of them.


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1 minute ago, r0ckyreed said:

Sure. If you get rid of your biases and look at it objectively, GPT has more features than Claude and performs better overall.

Just evaluate it objectively. It is like saying who is smarter, Elon Musk or Tesla? There is an objective answer to the question. Look objectively at their cognitive development. Now, apply that to GPT vs. Claude. Look at the developments of them.

You yourself mentioned in op that Each AI perform comparatively better than other in different scenarios. So, drawing a simple conclusion like this is unnecessary, this whole thread is unnecessary.


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@r0ckyreed, how long have you been using both of them?

How did you do your measurements of them?

To be honest, I now purchased the plus plan for ChatGPT 4o.

I think that observing the first response is not a good way to know which is the best.

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However, I like that ChatGPT has internet access and has GPTs. It can also give me outputs that aren't only text-based.

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7 hours ago, Sandhu said:

You yourself mentioned in op that Each AI perform comparatively better than other in different scenarios. So, drawing a simple conclusion like this is unnecessary, this whole thread is unnecessary.

Donald Trump will perform better Einstein at some things, but that doesn’t mean he is more consciously developed than Einstein. If you look at the whole, ChatGPT is better in almost every category.


“Our most valuable resource is not time, but rather it is consciousness itself. Consciousness is the basis for everything, and without it, there could be no time and no resource possible. It is only through consciousness and its cultivation that one’s passions, one’s focus, one’s curiosity, one’s time, and one’s capacity to love can be actualized and lived to the fullest.” - r0ckyreed

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7 hours ago, Nemra said:

@r0ckyreed, how long have you been using both of them?

How did you do your measurements of them?

To be honest, I now purchased the plus plan for ChatGPT 4o.

I think that observing the first response is not a good way to know which is the best.

Been using them for almost a year now.

Yeah, you want to have a conversation with them. Just one question isn’t good.

What you thinking of GPT-4? Pretty cool huh? You can link a whole article and it will analyze it whereas Claude cannot do that. I’ve had it analyze a YouTube video before which was cool. 

I use both of them. I am not sponsored by ChatGPT, so if Claude comes out with Claude 4 Opus, and if it includes all the features ChatGPT has and more, then I would switch over in a heartbeat. As of right now, GPT 4 is a better AI model overall than Claude 3.5z

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“Our most valuable resource is not time, but rather it is consciousness itself. Consciousness is the basis for everything, and without it, there could be no time and no resource possible. It is only through consciousness and its cultivation that one’s passions, one’s focus, one’s curiosity, one’s time, and one’s capacity to love can be actualized and lived to the fullest.” - r0ckyreed

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