Do you have any physical symptoms from doing „inner work"?

[PurpleTree]

Could be from meditation, inquiry etc?

[PurpleTree]

Seemingly i have quite a lot but i didn’t want to name them i wanted to hear about yours from you guys.

Could also just be a story, idea, wishful thinking, nothing, or other stuff going on in the body like gut issues, inflammation etc.

I‘ve always been quite sensitive to sensations in the body. Which can also be bad/uncomfortable.

[jimwell]

The physical symptoms are usually caused by dissatisfaction, physical and mental trauma, disappointments, and other forms of suffering.

If you do serious internal work for many years, you’ll start to feel the pleasurable physical components of self-esteem, self-respect, and self-acceptance. Emotions have physical components. 

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, jimwell said:

The physical symptoms are usually caused by dissatisfaction, physical and mental trauma, disappointments, and other forms of suffering.

Could you elaborate what type of physical symptoms you mean?

[PurpleTree]

Should maybe have wrote physical sensations instead of symptoms that sounds more right.

[What Am I]

Yes, definitely. I wrote about my own experience in the post below:

You can also find a good description in Adyashanti's book called "The End of your World". Here's a pastebin of the relevant chapter: https://pastebin.com/VGmB5jH5

[Princess Arabia]

(Negative) Changes in my diet. Cravings. (Positive) More calm and less agitated or triggered. If that happens, it's short-lived.

[PurpleTree]

7 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

(Negative) Changes in my diet. Cravings. (Positive) More calm and less agitated or triggered. If that happens, it's short-lived.

 

7 hours ago, What Am I said:

Yes, definitely. I wrote about my own experience in the post below:

thx guys

7 hours ago, What Am I said:

You can also find a good description in Adyashanti's book called "The End of your World". Here's a pastebin of the relevant chapter: https://pastebin.com/VGmB5jH5

That’s actually very helpful

for me it’s so gradual that it seems whatever is happening will take years and years to unfold.

a twitching here

feeling of heat there

palpitation here

stuck energy here

feverish feeling in the head

often feeling very heavy sometimes switching to feeling very light

And basically all seems to be going on from mostly inquiry, i don’t do sitting meditation.

The feelings/sensations are often subtle but still so prominent that i wonder why there aren’t more threads on this all the time.

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

 

thx guys

That’s actually very helpful

for me it’s so gradual that it seems whatever is happening will take years and years to unfold.

a twitching here

feeling of heat there

palpitation here

stuck energy here

feverish feeling in the head

often feeling very heavy sometimes switching to feeling very light

And basically all seems to be going on from mostly inquiry, i don’t do sitting meditation.

The feelings/sensations are often subtle but still so prominent that i wonder why there aren’t more threads on this all the time.

If you're not on a healthy diet, symptoms will appear worse. The nervous system also has to be able to handle all this Spiritual stuff also or it will cause the body to go into shock. It's like an electrical system, where if overloaded, can cause an imbalance within the body. 

This is why physical changes happen. Mentally, changes happen also but the symptoms are different and probably harder to spot as the physical is easy to pinpoint and bring your attention towards. So having a healthy can help to ease some of these symptoms where the body gets help in it's performance. 

[Princess Arabia]

 

[PurpleTree]

7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

If you're not on a healthy diet, symptoms will appear worse. The nervous system also has to be able to handle all this Spiritual stuff also or it will cause the body to go into shock. It's like an electrical system, where if overloaded, can cause an imbalance within the body. 

This is why physical changes happen. Mentally, changes happen also but the symptoms are different and probably harder to spot as the physical is easy to pinpoint and bring your attention towards. So having a healthy can help to ease some of these symptoms where the body gets help in it's performance. 

Yea thanks well I‘ve had gut, neck, back issues and some inflammation issues and chronic farigue etc. for a while.

And even 10 years ago signs of arthritis which the doctor said was very young but not unheard of.

I feel like the body was turning against itself a bit or the mind was turning against the body or whatever like people who have all those auto immune disorders .

But it’s actually not that easy for me to find a great diet and such I tried carnivore, keto, fodmap etc.

And right now I work in nursing so i usually just eat what’s available here.

Edited September 25 by PurpleTree

[What Am I]

5 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

That’s actually very helpful

for me it’s so gradual that it seems whatever is happening will take years and years to unfold.

a twitching here

feeling of heat there

palpitation here

stuck energy here

feverish feeling in the head

often feeling very heavy sometimes switching to feeling very light

And basically all seems to be going on from mostly inquiry, i don’t do sitting meditation.

The feelings/sensations are often subtle but still so prominent that i wonder why there aren’t more threads on this all the time.

If your spiritual training is legit and it's dropping you into altered states which access your subconscious and superconscious, the increased demand on your energetic system will be an expected byproduct. Doing some research on "kundalini syndrome" should provide more details. It's something that can eventually be overcome, but it can take up to a few years.

My worst bout was a 6-day period after some 5-MeO-DMT usage. It was absolutely brutal, with full insomnia the entire time, a consistent 140bpm resting heart rate, as well as extreme fear and anxiety. On a spiritual level, it's as if I continued to trip the entire time, being pulled forcefully into a God-level state of realization while a mysterious electrical sensation shot through my body.

It's all worth it though, because your system can eventually catch up to the new demands and reveal its higher order of operating. It offers the opportunity for a much more embodied existence with a relieving of the previous small sense of self which created the illusion of separation. The whole process seems to be a natural function of the human body, and a true form of purification.

Edited September 25 by What Am I

[Princess Arabia]

26 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

But it’s actually not that easy for me to find a great diet and such I tried carnivore, keto, fodmap etc.

I'm not sure of your blood and body type which sometimes is a requisite for knowing which specific foods to stay away from and which ones are best. E,g. some people do very badly eating nightshades (eggplant, tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, to name a few) and those foods are considered healthy and mostly from the earth.

Others, as in those with celiac disease, cannot have wheat or gluten. So, it's not that simple as to just recommend whole foods or foods from nature as some bodies have immunity to certain whole foods. However, it's best to start from there if there are no known allergies and work backwards through the process of elimination. 

You say you work in nursing and probably work in a hospital where the food there is usually terrible, so I empathize with that; but, and not to sound callous, if you really wanted to make a change, and your health was of vital importance, you would find a way instead of giving into just what's available to you. It's called taking responsibility for your health and not putting it into the hands of others. Doesn't have to be perfect, but humans usually do find a way where there's a will. We use too many excuses for our lack of willingness to make the changes we know we need to make to improve our health. It's really not that hard to do. I used to work in a restaurant as a waitress and I would sometimes bring in my own food to eat because the healthier options there was so limited, and I got tired of eating the same thing. I would even bring in my smoothie maker and whip up a smoothie from their greens, bananas and whatever else i could find. So, like I said, where there's a will there's a way. I didn't let the excuses of the mind creep in, in that respect. 

Edited September 25 by Princess Arabia

[Hojo]

Yes I get electricity in my brain everyday.

Since awakening my brain has been shooting electricity through it non stop. I can feel the electricity get ready to shoot through my brain and then I feel electricity shoot through the neural or veinal connections in my brain. Like I can feel the specific vein or neurons that are being shocked. 

Edited September 25 by Hojo

[PurpleTree]

6 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm not sure of your blood and body type which sometimes is a requisite for knowing which specific foods to stay away from and which ones are best. E,g. some people do very badly eating nightshades (eggplant, tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, to name a few) and those foods are considered healthy and mostly from the earth.

Others, as in those with celiac disease, cannot have wheat or gluten. So, it's not that simple as to just recommend whole foods or foods from nature as some bodies have immunity to certain whole foods. However, it's best to start from there if there are no known allergies and work backwards through the process of elimination. 

You say you work in nursing and probably work in a hospital where the food there is usually terrible, so I empathize with that; but, and not to sound callous, if you really wanted to make a change, and your health was of vital importance, you would find a way instead of giving into just what's available to you. It's called taking responsibility for your health and not putting it into the hands of others. Doesn't have to be perfect, but humans usually do find a way where there's a will. We use too many excuses for our lack of willingness to make the changes we know we need to make to improve our health. It's really not that hard to do. I used to work in a restaurant as a waitress and I would sometimes bring in my own food to eat because the healthier options there was so limited, and I got tired of eating the same thing. I would even bring in my smoothie maker and whip up a smoothie from their greens, bananas and whatever else i could find. So, like I said, where there's a will there's a way. I didn't let the excuses of the mind creep in, in that respect. 

Tiger blood and good body, nono jk

Well yes I‘ve tried basically all that stuff, no nightshades, keto, carnovore, veggie, no lectins and many others.

Actually keto, no lectins and carnivore were decent for a while but very restrictive and also after a month started feeling worse on keto and carnivore, I‘ve been stict with diet for many moons and such so it’s not like I didn’t try. What I found is that i at least need enough easily digestible proteins few times a day because of blood sugar etc.

 

6 hours ago, What Am I said:

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My worst bout was a 6-day period after some 5-MeO-DMT usage. It was absolutely brutal, with full insomnia the entire time, a consistent 140bpm resting heart rate, as well as extreme fear and anxiety. On a spiritual level, it's as if I continued to trip the entire time, being pulled forcefully into a God-level state of realization while a mysterious electrical sensation shot through my body.

I‘ve had a similar thing from my last mushroom trip like one and a half years ago. Less god stuff more jesus. Basically over a week of paranoia, almost psychotic. Ended up taking anti psychotics to sleep and ditched them after a week or so. Haven’t touched psychedelics since though.

 

 

Edited September 25 by PurpleTree

[PurpleTree]

6 hours ago, Hojo said:

Yes I get electricity in my brain everyday.

Since awakening my brain has been shooting electricity through it non stop. I can feel the electricity get ready to shoot through my brain and then I feel electricity shoot through the neural or veinal connections in my brain. Like I can feel the specific vein or neurons that are being shocked. 

I used to get brain zapps from MDMA and SSRI‘s (not in conjunction but separate) 

Not good stuff, very uncomfortable. 

Edited September 25 by PurpleTree

[Hojo]

@PurpleTree me too I took effecxor for 1 month to try anti depressants I forgot to take them or refill my subscribtion and I was at my friends house and my brain started feeling like it was being electrocuted every 5 minutes. I was like wtf is going on then looked at the sideeffects and saw it could do that. This feels like that only it feels like a bubble and then the bubble pops and releases more energy, effexor felts more like a tazer and this feels like a pop. Its uncomfortable while its coming up I can feel it bubble up and then pop. Effecxor was more intense this feels weird then good. It kind of feels like my awakening zaps but not as crazy. I dont know whats happening it just feels like I can feel my brain thinking now.

Edited September 25 by Hojo

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@PurpleTree me too I took effecxor for 1 month to try anti depressants I forgot to take them or refill my subscribtion and I was at my friends house and my brain started feeling like it was being electrocuted every 5 minutes. I was like wtf is going on then looked at the sideeffects and saw it could do that. This feels like that only it feels like a bubble and then the bubble pops and releases more energy, effexor felts more like a tazer and this feels like a pop. Its uncomfortable while its coming up I can feel it bubble up and then pop. Effecxor was more intense this feels weird then good. It kind of feels like my awakening zaps but not as crazy. I dont know whats happening.

Yea it’s wild honestly the body and all. 

These sensations that are seemingly mostly from inner work are not very uncomfortable to me though. It’s something between comfortable and uncomfortable. Sometimes wuite pleasant. Sometimes it feels quite heavy still somewhat comfortable. Often keeps me awake though. Sometimes quite dizzy und disorienting. Which can be somewhat unpleasant. It’s also just very hard to say what’s from what. Is it just brain fog or from inner work. But it doesn’t really matter anyway.

[BlueOak]

I find the parts of me holding onto patterns or emotions and integrate them using my own adapted version of teal swans completion process. (More direct and adaptive, less of a visualised routine). This can only occur when I am aware of them.

This quite often has a physical symptom attached. Either it already exists and has come to my awareness or is a result of healing, the emotion, pattern or trapped trauma

Tiredness.
Soreness in a muscle, the ribs are common, but sometimes other areas like the chest. 
Headaches.
Difficulty sleeping full nights.
Mild Colds when you detox something out of the body.
 

As an example 13 years ago when I turned on more of my emotional centers again, it felt like someone had ripped open the nerves in my chest for a brief moment.

I did a visualization/emotional inquiry on the area of the ribs a few weeks ago, and that felt like they were expanding or trapped nerves were unclenching around them. That was a fear pattern, an anxious freeze response trapped in that area of my body.

I distinguish less between physical ailments and emotional states less and less the more I do this work. The two for me are inseparable. 

 

[BlueOak]

As another example, I did some meditation on healing the heart area for the second time, and I felt like it was vibrating very softly, where the nerves were being assisted. Much like a sound bath. I have mild pain in my heart area from time to time.