Leo’s advise about dating and sex are mostly aimed towards man

[bambi]

3 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@bambi, didn't Leo explain how he generalizes?

The following is a quote from one of his posts.

"What's unhealthy for society is denying the obvious psychological differences between men and women.

When I say man, what I really mean is masculine. If a man is not masculine then what I say doesn't apply. Just because there are feminine men doesn't touch my point."

Do you think we can talk about this stuff without generalizing?

He isnt defining for you what is masculine or feminine, he can't do it in any meaninfull way without reducing to useless propositions like feminine is life and masculine is death lol!, which in of itself is an arbirary construct.

Hes trying to create a set of criteria that can apply ubiqitously to male psychology, and it doesnt exist. Jung theory counters this, and Jung was correct. 

Psychology is informed somewhat by biology, but its complex and emergent. 

Any set of traits you can arbitrarily define as mascule or feminine, would only be half the picture for a healthy human, independent of gender, so this dichotomy is mostly useless. Its basically archaic and a poor attempt to deal with human and their diversity. Its useful some of the time in some of the places, just like a hammer.

The core problems we face in soceity are not borne out of a lack of strong traditional gender roles, its borne out of millenia of pain, shame, oppresion and cruelty. Humans will natually return back to their symbiotic state when their pathologies are removed. This symbitioic state will be diverse dependant upon the individuals unique pyschological preferences and constructs. 

 

[Keryo Koffa]

Just now, RendHeaven said:

Nope, sexual polarity is a blessing. Best thing anyone could've ever possibly invented. Thank you God.

Thesis (Polarity) → Anti-Thesis (Non-Duality) → Synthesis (Transcendence)

Afterward, you got more than you put in, that's the nature of Synergy.
Both parts reinforce each other, so if you care about the polarity, you integrate it.
Your "male" aspects benefit from your "female" aspects and vice versa.
It's like a boomerang, the cycle will complete and the polarity is it flying around.
But you do yourself a disservice by ignoring throwing (masculine) or catching (feminine).

Of course "feminine" and "masculine" are an arbitrary designation of polar mechanics.

"The two-sex division was adopted, separating and balancing these most necessary but
seemingly opposing tendencies. Only beginning consciousness needs these kind of controls."

[bambi]

13 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Bambi is very apt at starting arguments and beating people over the head with a stick.
He sees himself justified, thinking his criticisms are obvious and the other side ridiculous.
Not leaving enough room to start a conversation, he quickly gets dismissed.
In the back of his mind, he is the one being hammered by others' passive-aggression.

To give you an insight into his interpretations, this is what you look like to bambi:

Here's a low-fat version of the Bambi Criticism Smoothie:
Emerald's "favoritism" conflates each woman with the peak ideal of the feminine polarity, ignoring individuality, and hoarding all the best traits while refusing men the same courtesy. Additionally, the very dichotomy is a self-perpetuating schema, that prescribes behavior and ignores the universal humanity within each individual, because of the stereotypes left over from cultural evolution. There's a reductionist narrative, that separates, imposes, and backwards-rationalizes itself by assigning traits by genders, and is nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy, that's been spun throughout the ages, then justified and projected onto evolution. Emerald's feminine sexuality is holistic, unlike the "toxic masculine", and all women are bailed out from toxic materialist behavior, because "the only source of evil is men". Emerald is lost in the role of a spiritual ego saint, a lofty high ground of narcissistic morality posturing.

So that's the demon bambi sees himself arguing with, getting ever more riled up.

Partially true lol! 

I am 110% aware of everything that is happening, you mispercieve me. I dont feel myself hammered by others passive aggression 

I mainly come on here for the psychedelic section, and when I veer out of there for leisure, the deep degree of bullshit that permeates this forum is jarring, and seemingly most of the server is complicit. I enjoy and see it as my responsibility to point out the delusions.. 95% of all conversations are people talking past each other. 

A poster literally called Emerald a saint, and they weren't being facetious. Modern AI calls her self absorbed and condescending, the irony only seems to be lost on me.

Your write up is good. But I'd add in the subjectivity of her assessment, she creates her own subjective ideals and interpretations based on her anecdotes, and imposes them universally.

Second even within her own holistic ideal, she has a partial and incomplete understanding. In her world there are no universaly attractive male traits to women or if she sometimes does acknowledge this, she further claims they arent powerful enough to influence womens mating choice, citing this organic irrational unqiue femine process that only she knows about as she is the superior saint. And that men with our stupid logic can never understand this as our whole mating process is simply surface level attraciton. Her whole paradigm is fucked, its pure fiction

Her analysis is so poor, its concerning that people even take it seriously

[RendHeaven]

4 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Thesis (Polarity) → Anti-Thesis (Non-Duality) → Synthesis (Transcendence)

Afterward, you got more than you put in, that's the nature of Synergy.
Both parts reinforce each other, so if you care about the polarity, you integrate it.
Your "male" aspects benefit from your "female" aspects and vice versa.
It's like a boomerang, the cycle will complete and the polarity is it flying around.
But you do yourself a disservice by ignoring throwing (masculine) or catching (feminine).

Of course "feminine" and "masculine" are an arbitrary designation of polar mechanics.

"The two-sex division was adopted, separating and balancing these most necessary but
seemingly opposing tendencies. Only beginning consciousness needs these kind of controls."

whatever nerd

i like girls

i win

[Nemra]

13 minutes ago, bambi said:

Its useful some of the time in some of the places, just like a hammer.

Maybe he is only focusing on that because it aligns with his experience and doesn't care to specify what he actually thinks about this stuff.

[Keryo Koffa]

4 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:

whatever nerd, i like girls, i win

Take it, I prefer garlic bread, but to each their own

[bambi]

19 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Maybe he is only focusing on that because it aligns with his experience and doesn't care to specify what he actually thinks about this stuff.

Im sorry but what type of post is this?! 'maybe he' lol

Cmon dude

[Keryo Koffa]

@bambi Yeah... and their reasoning is often
the same just reversed even without Em.

I mean, the whole subforum is fucked tbh
It's kind of implied, to begin with, I'd say

And the Spiritual subforum is getting cooked too
Even the psychedelics start to get repetitive

I'd love to find the 5% you're talking about

[Nemra]

3 minutes ago, bambi said:

Im sorry but what type of post is this?! 'maybe he' lol

Cmon dude

Both of you could be misinterpreting each other.

He doesn't like to explain what he means that much, which could be problematic.

[bambi]

6 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Both of you could be misinterpreting each other.

He doesn't like to explain what he means that much, which could be problematic.

Lol not your hypothetical imposition is pointless and meaningless, how do you not see that?

What if his dog bit him as a child and the dog was male and thats informing his views, what if what if what if what if lol

[Nemra]

@bambi, dude, calm down.

If you think that you'll understand everyone's perspective just by a few posts, then you will be lost in your meaningless, stupid combative mode.

[bambi]

18 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@bambi, dude, calm down.

If you think that you'll understand everyone's perspective just by a few posts, then you will be lost in your meaningless, stupid combative mode.

No, dont post stupid shit that has no bearing under the guise of trying to help me. If you think 'maybe he' is helping anyone you are a fool. No offence

[Nemra]

Just now, bambi said:

No, don't post stupid shit that has no bearing under the guise of trying to help me. If you think 'maybe he' is helping anyone you are a fool. No offence.

No offense, said the triggered one, lol.

And you think you're helping people here?

Go breathe some fresh air.

[bambi]

2 minutes ago, Nemra said:

No offense, said the triggered one, lol.

And you think you're helping people here?

Go breathe some fresh air.

Im not triggered, Im asserting my boundaries with a fool. Do you not see the irony here, you're giving me foolish unsolicated advice, while simulteanously asking me who do you think Im helping? LOL are you seriously this dense?

[Nemra]

2 minutes ago, bambi said:

Im not triggered, Im asserting my boundaries with a fool.

Yeah, with stupid boundaries.

4 minutes ago, bambi said:

Do you not see the irony here, you're giving me foolish unsolicited advice, while simultaneously asking me who do you think Im helping? LOL are you seriously this dense?

The irony is unbearable.

[bambi]

Just now, Nemra said:

Yeah, with stupid boundaries.

The irony is unbearable.

The solution is to simply speak your own perspective and let me and Leo speak ours. If I need your help, Im capable of asking you directly and explicitly. I can assure you there will be 0 ambiguity there.

Why not share your view on the conversational topics? Where does the utility of masculine/feminine attributes lie, what are these to you? what about gender constructs are accurate or helpful? Whats you view?

[Nemra]

@bambi, sorry, but I won't share it with you. It's interesting how you diverged from what we were talking about.

[Leo Gura]

@bambi Tone it down please. You make people disinclined to participate here. You don't need to bash people over the head who disagree with you. There is a better way.

Edited October 4 by Leo Gura

[bambi]

32 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@bambi Tone it down please. You make people disinclined to participate here. You don't need to bash people over the head who disagree with you. There is a better way.

Understood

[bambi]

18 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

@bambi you can start your own topic and express your views on masculinity. Just a suggestion. 

I am aware of the thread starting feature, and my capacity to start that.  Thanks for the suggestion

My views are expressed repeatedly in this thread though, and I think my writing is clear and concise, and have verified this ad naseum with AI models. Everyone who's ever worked for me has indicated my ability to concisely articulate my point or idea. So it's strange how people are struggling to comprehend it