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[Bobby_2021]

You guys have to understand this: Every news about North Korea that comes from South Korea is meant to denigrate the North Korea. It's a propaganda piece.

Because South Koreans are racist towards North Koreans.

No North Korean troops is engaged in the Russian special military operation in Ukraine.

They are there for joint training at best.

https://www.reuters.com/world/pentagon-chief-says-cannot-confirm-reports-north-korean-troops-russia-possible-2024-10-19

 

[Bobby_2021]

23 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Breaking News: North Korea 🇰🇵 to send thousands of soldiers to fight in Ukraine

 

 

This is the quintessential demonstration of propaganda in the real world. I didn't even watch it at first because I knew it would be crap, and it is.

Notice how he doesn't give any solid confirmation about NK troops fighting in Ukraine. All he cares is to imprint the idea of NK troops fighting in Ukraine so that he can rally more support from the general public to keep up this bullshit war.

And he is "concerned" about NK troops in Ukraine. Fuck offf. He is not concerned about Ukraine nor Korea nor Russia. Typical propaganda hit piece.

Now I have no confirmation either. Every country conducts joint military exercises. There is just not enough confirmation to make that claim.

[Nemra]

4 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

South Koreans are racist towards North Koreans.

Could you expand on that?

[Scholar]

7 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

This is the quintessential demonstration of propaganda in the real world. I didn't even watch it at first because I knew it would be crap, and it is.

Notice how he doesn't give any solid confirmation about NK troops fighting in Ukraine. All he cares is to imprint the idea of NK troops fighting in Ukraine so that he can rally more support from the general public to keep up this bullshit war.

And he is "concerned" about NK troops in Ukraine. Fuck offf. He is not concerned about Ukraine nor Korea nor Russia. Typical propaganda hit piece.

Now I have no confirmation either. Every country conducts joint military exercises. There is just not enough confirmation to make that claim.

What is unreasonable about this? There is good reason to be concerned. North Korea and Russia are in a defensive pact, and I am not sure if Russia is currently conduction joint military exercises while in a state of war, with tens of thousands of north korean troups.

 

Ukraine ought to be supported, and using such news to drum up support is a very good idea.

[Nemra]

 

 

Edited October 20 by Nemra

[Bobby_2021]

13 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Could you expand on that?

That is just that. South Korean is racist af. The weird perception you have about North Korea is manufactured exclusively by "sources" coming from the South. Which are lies and propaganda. This is like trusting Israel to report what's happening in Gaza. They will always lie and cheat in the most flagrant of ways.

Which is why if you pay close attention you will know that most news about North Korea will go by "South Koreans intelligence reports" followes by some weird characterization of NK. 

12 minutes ago, Scholar said:

Ukraine ought to be supported, and using such news to drum up support is a very good idea.

A good idea is to halt the weapons shipments to some ongoing genocide and funnel it to Ukraine. That is something I would agree.

[Nemra]

@Bobby_2021, how are you comparing Israel and SK?

SK isn't doing the same thing like Israel is doing right now.

Also, if sources are coming from SK, that doesn't mean that they are being racist towards NK.

Why do you think people in NK want to escape from there?

Consider that the NK government is brainwashing their people.

Edited October 20 by Nemra

[Hatfort]

Putin visited North Korea recently, so maybe this is true, their relations are good and beneficial to each other. Russia doesn't need North Korean troops to win though.

I'm hearing peace deal conversations are happening discreetly. Russian minimal conditions: no NATO, neutrality, respect for its minorities, no more proxy wars, and Russia keeps the new four territories but no more.

[Bobby_2021]

3 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Why do you think people in NK want to escape from there?

Most people are escaping for better economic opportunities, which is the case for almost all countries who got ruined from a colonial past.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Ukraine had better watch out, how will they ever defeat this?

 

[Bobby_2021]

2 minutes ago, Hatfort said:

Putin visited North Korea recently, so maybe this is true, their relations are good and beneficial to each other.

Is it true that NK is fighting Ukraine alongside Russia? NO.

But we all think of the same, discuss it as if it is reality.

So the propaganda piece has worked. It created a false picture in your mind which evokes emotions that could be funneled for alterior purposes. 

That is how propaganda works my friends.

[Bobby_2021]

2 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Ukraine had better watch out, how will they ever defeat this?

 

Ukraine will be defeated either way. 

How much blood they want to spill is the question?

Or how long until they collapse.

I give it 3-6 months.

Or 9 months if you stretch it at max. Unlikely they will last beyond that.

[PurpleTree]

Seems not like a very smart move.

I mean North Korea probably wants to get real war experience and test weapons and such for their war against South Korea or other countries.

But now probably just more countries are going to get involved.

[Scholar]

31 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

That is just that. South Korean is racist af. The weird perception you have about North Korea is manufactured exclusively by "sources" coming from the South. Which are lies and propaganda. This is like trusting Israel to report what's happening in Gaza. They will always lie and cheat in the most flagrant of ways.

Which is why if you pay close attention you will know that most news about North Korea will go by "South Koreans intelligence reports" followes by some weird characterization of NK. 

A good idea is to halt the weapons shipments to some ongoing genocide and funnel it to Ukraine. That is something I would agree.

There is no genocide occuring in Israel.

[Nemra]

@Bobby_2021, also, NK and Palestine aren't the same.

Are you using NK sources to conclude that SK is lying about NK?

16 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Most people are escaping for better economic opportunities, which is the case for almost all countries who got ruined from a colonial past.

Well, the government is making the escape much harder for them.

Is NK colonized?

No. And the government isn't doing anything to elevate its people.

Edited October 20 by Nemra

[Bobby_2021]

15 hours ago, Nemra said:

NK and Palestine aren't the same.

They are similar, in terms of the destruction inflicted on them directly or indirectly with US support. 

15 hours ago, Nemra said:

Are you using NK sources to conclude that SK is lying about NK?

no, from my experience. 

15 hours ago, Nemra said:

And the government isn't doing anything to elevate its people

It is doing everything it can in their power. It is operating under sanctions and it can only do so much. 

[Nemra]

12 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

They are similar, in terms of the destruction inflicted on them directly or indirectly with US support. 

They aren't being bombed like hell.

12 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

It is doing everything it can in their power.

What have they done?

12 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

It is operating under sanctions and it can only do so much. 

Why shouldn't NK be sanctioned?

Edited October 21 by Nemra

[Bobby_2021]

1 hour ago, Nemra said:

Why shouldn't NK be sanctioned?

Because maybe it's cruel to starve thousands of kids to death?

1 hour ago, Nemra said:

What have they done?

Plenty of social programs are there.

[Nivsch]

On 17.10.2024 at 7:33 PM, Bobby_2021 said:

Ukraine

Why to want to get a territory back is to risk in nuclear war?

[Nivsch]

On 17.10.2024 at 7:16 PM, Bobby_2021 said:

Most of them are willing to trade in territories for not fighting a war for neocons on the other side of globe. 

Do you think they will feel OK when be left with a smaller territory then before the war?

And if so, how do you explain this?