Latest Ukraine/Russia Thread

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

So, easy to overthrow or be bought by Russia.

He is nothing, just the face that appears in the news. Those who send young people to the slaughterhouse are the oligarchy that caused the Euromaidan, what power will a comic actor have? He doesn't know anything about politics, he's just an actor, he does what he's told, he wants to keep his life, and as a tip, become a millionaire.

[Elliott]

1 minute ago, Hatfort said:

No, he is not surrounded by people who would kill him, he has certainly a very well-paid security apparatus surrounding him 24-7. He kicks out any opposing voice to this war, he is a de facto dictator. He is corrupt to the bone for the money that's coming from the West to finance this war, and all around him are as dirty as him as well. A part of the population is with him, the most Nazi nationalist ones, those are the ones that get to the top. Common people are trapped in this madness, it has to stop.

How many zelensky lieutenants have been assassinated then, the rubber meets the road somewhere.

[Hatfort]

3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

How many zelensky lieutenants have been assassinated then, the rubber meets the road somewhere.

Man, you're going sideways in the conversation, to who knows where. If Ukraine can win this war, that's what will happen. If Russia can win this war, that's what will happen. The second is truth, it's a matter of observation.

[Elliott]

5 minutes ago, Hatfort said:

Man, you're going sideways in the conversation, to who knows where. If Ukraine can win this war, that's what will happen. If Russia can win this war, that's what will happen. The second is truth, it's a matter of observation.

There would be some level of mutiny obviously, you're deflecting. Russia had a mutiny even.

Edited Saturday at 09:21 PM by Elliott

[Hatfort]

2 minutes ago, Elliott said:

There would be some level of mutiny obviously, you're deflecting. Russia had a mutiny even.

No, I'm talking about the reality of the war. You are talking about expectations that there are no signs they are going to come to reality, if they do, I will grant it to you, and Ukraine will recover all its territory including Crimea. It's not happening.

[Elliott]

2 minutes ago, Hatfort said:

No, I'm talking about the reality of the war. You are talking about expectations that there are no signs they are going to come to reality, if they do, I will grant it to you, and Ukraine will recover all its territory including Crimea. It's not happening.

Even Russia had a mutiny, has Ukraine had any sort of mutiny? The country opposes the war, where are even protests. You say Russians support the war, yet they had mass protests and a mutiny all the way in Moscow with a standing army.

At some point you have to look at reality.

Edited Saturday at 09:27 PM by Elliott

[Hatfort]

1 minute ago, Elliott said:

Even Russia had a mutiny, has Ukraine had any sort of mutiny? The country opposes the war, where are even protests. You say Russians support the war, yet they had mass protests and a mutiny all the way in Moscow with a standing army.

Putin just won the elections overwhelmingly, in the middle of the war, which clearly ratifies its policies by the people, and this is the most important issue for the country at this moment, so they voted about it. He has the popular support, and the military and economic capability to continue easily longer than it's rival, which is why it will win the attrition war.

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Even Russia had a mutiny, has Ukraine had any sort of mutiny? The country opposes the war, where are even protests. You say Russians support the war, yet they had mass protests and a mutiny all the way in Moscow with a standing army.

At some point you have to look at reality.

The riot that occurred in Russia was in protest of Putin's soft attitude. They asked for a more aggressive attitude

[Elliott]

7 minutes ago, Hatfort said:

Putin just won the elections overwhelmingly, in the middle of the war, which clearly ratifies its policies by the people, and this is the most important issue for the country at this moment, so they voted about it. He has the popular support, and the military and economic capability to continue easily longer than it's rival, which is why it will win the attrition war.

Putins opponent wasn't allowed to run in the election.

https://www.npr.org

Russian anti-war politician Nadezh blocked from running against Putin

Feb 8, 2024 · TALLINN, Estonia (AP) — Antiwar politician Boris Nadezhdin was rejected Thursday as a candidate in next month's presidential …

 

Why did russias elite unit mutiny then

[Elliott]

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The riot that occurred in Russia was in protest of Putin's soft attitude. They asked for a more aggressive attitude

There's been tons of anti war protests, an actual military mutiny even.

 

 

 

[Breakingthewall]

8 minutes ago, Elliott said:

There's been tons of anti war protests, an actual military mutiny even.

 

 

 

Think with logic. Russia right now is a country at war, if someone organizes an anti-war movement the same thing would happen than to Prigozhin. 

Russia now massively supports the war since they know that losing it would be ruin, and that winning it is practically certain and will bring enormous benefits in the long term. By winning this war, Russia acquires the status of a real world power. This brings economic benefits. In Africa they have already displaced great Britain and France, and it is only the beginning. 

Edited Saturday at 09:52 PM by Breakingthewall

[Hatfort]

3 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Putins opponent wasn't allowed to run in the election.

https://www.npr.org

Russian anti-war politician Nadezh blocked from running against Putin

Feb 8, 2024 · TALLINN, Estonia (AP) — Antiwar politician Boris Nadezhdin was rejected Thursday as a candidate in next month's presidential …

 

Why did russias elite unit mutiny then

The Russian elections had almost 80% turnout, of which almost 90% supported him. His support is overwhelming, and they voted based on this issue, which is the most important right now. Zelensky can ratify the support he has when he is ready, who by the way has banned a considerable number of political parties. Ukraine is a de facto fascist country that doesn't even hold elections and persecutes anyone who opposes the war. His tyranny will end as soon as the Western flow stops. He'll probably escape to London or Miami, where he owns extremely expensive homes, that's my prediction, but we'll see.

[PurpleTree]

Powerful speech by my boi Zelensky

 

[PurpleTree]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Russia acquires the status of a real world power. This brings economic benefits. In Africa they have already displaced great Britain and France, and it is only the beginning. 

Yet Russia was kicked out of Syria. 
 

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Yet Russia was kicked out of Syria. 
 

Yes, that place that is too conflictive for a time when it has to be focused on Ukraine. When Ukraine is finished, we will see how easy it is to displace Russia. waking up the bear was an extremely bad idea, very stupid

[PurpleTree]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes, that place that is too conflictive for a time when it has to be focused on Ukraine. When Ukraine is finished, we will see how easy it is to displace Russia. waking up the bear was an extremely bad idea, very stupid

Ok thanks for your valuable input. But i think i will put you on my ignore list too. For spewing hate laughing at people trying to defend themselves and bringing the level of this forum down with boring russian propaganda. Bye wally 

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Ok thanks for your valuable input. But i think i will put you on my ignore list too. For spewing hate laughing at people trying to defend themselves and bringing the level of this forum down with boring russian propaganda. Bye wally 

I really think that you sound low in understanding, and before you sounded different. Try to be more mature, to get deep into yourself and in the reality around you. I read you in the past and you seemed much more open. Now you sound like blocked, sarcastic, you are going in the wrong direction, try to rectify 

Edited Saturday at 11:55 PM by Breakingthewall

[Elliott]

2 hours ago, Hatfort said:

The Russian elections had almost 80% turnout, of which almost 90% supported him. His support is overwhelming, and they voted based on this issue, which is the most important right now. Zelensky can ratify the support he has when he is ready, who by the way has banned a considerable number of political parties. Ukraine is a de facto fascist country that doesn't even hold elections and persecutes anyone who opposes the war. His tyranny will end as soon as the Western flow stops. He'll probably escape to London or Miami, where he owns extremely expensive homes, that's my prediction, but we'll see.

You believe those numbers?

[Hatfort]

2 minutes ago, Elliott said:

You believe those numbers?

No, I believe your fake ones.

[Elliott]

2 minutes ago, Hatfort said:

No, I believe your fake ones.

Good, because most people don't including the officials that look over elections internationally.

Edited Sunday at 12:32 AM by Elliott