Why am I not a crocodile?

[stephenkettley]

I am curious to know if the answer to this question would be a profound one?

Secondly, is there a way to validate it with an answer that can be found in direct experience? One possible answer I came up with to this question was that "I am not a crocodile because the universe is going to live through every single experience of itself and currently it is doing me. That's why I am not a crocodile." - but is this an answer from my experience around me or is it just a speculation?  What can I use in direct experience to get the answer to the WHY part of this question?

[Princess Arabia]

Don't crocodile exists? Everything exists. It's all you. You are a crocodile. Right now you're only conscious of being Stephen. 

[Sandroew]

9 minutes ago, stephenkettley said:

"I am not a crocodile because the universe is going to live through every single experience of itself and currently it is doing me. That's why I am not a crocodile."

Thats literally how i would sound in my head. It is possible that its coming from Leo, but if not we came to the same conclusion separately. Thats pretty cool!  

(But current me now needs to stop distracting himself with the forum now.)

[Keryo Koffa]

It's a strange loop

[Keryo Koffa]

@stephenkettley Here's an example:

Let's put @Princess Arabia & @Sandroew next to each other.

From @Princess Arabia's POV, she is herself. And from @Sandroew's POV, he is himself.

So now they both may wonder why they're themselves and not each other.

So let's switch them, @Princess Arabia becomes @Sandroew and @Sandroew becomes @Princess Arabia.

Now the question reverses, why is @Princess Arabia @Sandroew and not @Princess Arabia? And vice versa.

So then we reverse again and we're back where we started.

We are who we are, who we evolved to be from previous configurations and our perspectives & positions.

At some point, we were or might be a crocodile, but the sense of self would be so different, we wouldn't question it.

In fact, every being seems to be perfectly aligned being themselves with a unique personal POV.

So then, "we" are not a crocodile unless we simultaneously include the memory that contextualizes it.

Then we'd be a metamorphic being who could switch identities and retain previous awareness and context.

But unless we become it, our current experience continues to identify us with our body through our awareness POV.

Where are we? In the body, brain, mind? Why are we so conveniently localized and attuned to the POV of "this" vessel?

That's a long story!

Edited September 15, 2024 by Keryo Koffa

[Davino]

You are a crocodile to yourself, that's the analogy of self-deception

Regarding your particular question. It's just because of the nature of forms. An understanding must come about what is "form", the nature of impermanence and Reality as a shape-shifting experience.

[Sandroew]

@Keryo Koffa What kind of Rob Schneider-esque example is that my friend!

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Sandroew said:

@Keryo Koffa What kind of Rob Schneider-esque example is that my friend!

Lol. I was just reading it and couldn't even come up with a response. I was going to say, well, now I know what it's like to be Sandroew. 

[Sandroew]

@Princess Arabia You would do the helicopter for sure! Hahahah

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Sandroew said:

@Princess Arabia You would do the helicopter for sure! Hahahah

Didn't get it. What helicopter.

[stephenkettley]

@Sandroew haha I am sure Rob Schneider would be proud that he made it onto a self actualisation forum!

[stephenkettley]

@Keryo Koffa This is interesting! My question is, why is my awareness currently experiencing this right now and not the crocodile?

[Princess Arabia]

It's like asking why is an orange not an apple. It just isn't.

[Sandroew]

@Princess Arabia Nevermind me im just joking around, but we are spamming the topic too much.

@stephenkettley He can be glad that we gave The Hot Chick a new perspective.

[Keryo Koffa]

Just now, stephenkettley said:

@Keryo Koffa This is interesting! My question is, why is my awareness currently experiencing this right now and not the crocodile?

Well, the greater identity of which you are a part is experiencing everything including the crocodile.

The crocodile has its own experience and so do you in this vast world localized in indra's-net.

The previous identity materialized various perspectives and became each of them.

And you are one of the experiences it became in order to explore them.

Imagine you exist inside a void and wanna create something.

Imagine you want to create others and worlds.

And experience them as others.

You split yourself.

Here you

are.

An intelligent

Holon within the grander Infinity.

Imagine having to simultaneously control every cell.

It's much easier to outsource that consciousness and cooperate with them.

So then each part of the experience is arranged in a holographic configuration to allow the whole.