Do You Think AI Will Cause Humans To Not Think For Themselves

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

AI cuts out the crap and the bickering and the stupidity

Just give me the facts ma'm, as the saying goes

Ok Mr. No Bullshit, I have other things to attend to other than listening to human bickering like go watch the Simpsons. I hear you, though, but sometimes human interaction can reveal a lot about you as a person by observing the way you interact with them; something AI doesn't and cannot do.

Edited September 7 by Princess Arabia

[Leo Gura]

You guys are all here for the drama. No AI can shoot that drama into your online addict veins! 

Edited September 7 by Leo Gura

[NoSelfSelf]

5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

That's what I was concerned about; but maybe it's just that a new kind of breed of humans is slowly being generated/created and this is just the stepping stone for that new era that won't need to critically think for themselves anymore because new technology will pave the way for how the new human will operate. Maybe more like aliens. Who knows.

Yeah who knows,but what im 100% certen is : if one doesnt have mind of its own it creates all sorts of problems like anxiety,depression,codependancy that could be the reason of rise of it expecially in this generation..

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

Maybe it's your lack of AI familiarity that is being exhibited rather than my boldness

Ok, point taken. Thanks for your input. I guess, for me, saying most when I haven't really did a survey or investigated the issue it would be bold (maybe wrong word) on my part to make such claims. That's just me, and I respect your opinion on the matter.

[gettoefl]

7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Ok Mr. No Bullshit, I have other things to attend to other than listening to human bickering like go watch the Simpsons. I hear you, though, but sometimes human interaction can reveal a lot about you as a person by observing the way you interact with them; something AI doesn't and cannot do.

It cuts out idle lurking which is how 99% use the internet

It cuts to the chase and to the meat and to the bone

It exposes your deficiencies and humbles your certainties

Mostly when we engage in chat we speak out of our neuroses cluelessly winging it

and our ridiculous attempt at sense-making is riddling others with sheer confusion

Edited September 7 by gettoefl

[Keryo Koffa]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

1. Auto-spelling turns the kids stupid.
2. Will AI replace our brains in thinking?
3. Will it be dependence or symbiosis?
4. Think for yourselves, don't AI-wing it.
5. Copy-pasting AI answers is not cool.
6. Tech already strips us of capacities.
   Maybe AI can guide contemplations?
7. I'm referring to normal daily use cases.
8. I wanna hear your answers, not AI's!

1. Language changes to be more efficient.
2. It'll take care of details & open holarchies.
3. As with everything, that's individual.
4. Your advaita tells us to think less lol
5. Why bother with the forum at some point?
6. We're just shifting into higher holarchies.
   Sure, it can, it all depends on the person.
7. It's a neat smart internet filter first of all.
8. Gotcha, but what if we were the AI all along?

• Bonus: Don't you preach surrender a lot?
  How about you surrender to AI?

Edited September 7 by Keryo Koffa

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, NoSelfSelf said:

Yeah who knows,but what im 100% certen is : if one doesnt have mind of its own it creates all sorts of problems like anxiety,depression,codependancy that could be the reason of rise of it expecially in this generation..

Never know, maybe it's because of one's identification with the mind (aka, mind of it's own) that creates anxiety and depression; so maybe by dropping the ability to think so much that may decrease those conditions. Even though I posed the question (OP), doesn't mean i'm not open to seeing and recognizing the long-term benefits. Maybe it's a way for humans to do less thinking about personal issues and open the pathway for more critical thinking for things that will evolve society as a whole without too many biases and projections coming from personal agendas. 

[Princess Arabia]

Just to note guys I'm not for or against this new technology. I posed the question to hear others' perspectives on the matter and to see where my own may broaden or to see things from a different angle from where I'm currently seeing it. It's very rare where my mind is closed off and cannot see from other people's perspectives where I can potentially grow and broaden my horizon. So don't take this as I'm opposed, just curious.

Edited September 7 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

14 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

It cuts out idle lurking which is how 99% use the internet

It cuts to the chase and to the meat and to the bone

It exposes your deficiencies and humbles your certainties

Mostly when we engage in chat we speak out of our neuroses cluelessly winging it

and our ridiculous attempt at sense-making is riddling others with sheer confusion

Ok, thank you for your view on the matter. 

[Princess Arabia]

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You guys are all here for the drama. No AI can shoot that drama into your online addict veins! 

If I pull up AI and ask it about Leo's porn collection, I bet it will fish out some drama in no time. Enough drama to start a thread about.😜

[NoSelfSelf]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Never know, maybe it's because of one's identification with the mind (aka, mind of it's own) that creates anxiety and depression; so maybe by dropping the ability to think so much that may decrease those conditions. Even though I posed the question (OP), doesn't mean i'm not open to seeing and recognizing the long-term benefits. Maybe it's a way for humans to do less thinking about personal issues and open the pathway for more critical thinking for things that will evolve society as a whole without too many biases and projections coming from personal agendas. 

Thats too much to ask for people 😆 one cant transcend the mind if one doesnt become completely centered in itself and think for itself, thats first step because if one doesnt have mind of its own it will still have anxiety,fear when going outside the comfort zone.

But then if one dont identifies with the mind i found the society as a whole dissapears, thats the first insight i got from psychadelic experience when starting to detach from the body..then left with mind of its own if one doesnt have it you just become a plant 😆 this topic puzzles me.It has to combine in the end its super complex matter my goal was to stop identifying with the body/mind then being in a position to evolve society but i was as naive as you 😂

[Princess Arabia]

21 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

1. Language changes to be more efficient.
2. It'll take care of details & open holarchies.
3. As with everything, that's individual.
4. Your advaita tells us to think less lol
5. Why bother with the forum at some point?
6. We're just shifting into higher holarchies.
   Sure, it can, it all depends on the person.
7. It's a neat smart internet filter first of all.
8. Gotcha, but what if we were the AI all along?

• Bonus: Don't you preach surrender a lot?
  How about you surrender to AI?

Ok AI Keryo. Maybe we'll use you as the forum AI. You'll be perfect for that role, especially in the editing arena where someone's thread needs editing because of unnecessary word input. You've been assigned. Now, question: Can AIs get annoying to the average human. 😛😛🙃😍❤️

Edited September 7 by Princess Arabia

[Jannes]

11 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Yeah who knows,but what im 100% certen is : if one doesnt have mind of its own it creates all sorts of problems like anxiety,depression,codependancy that could be the reason of rise of it expecially in this generation..

A bit simplistic I would say. Thats a bit like saying at a certain point society created gay people because they weren't there before in signifiant quantities. They were there before they just got demonized. Because of the different values that green has the problem you mentioned can be expressed in green. 

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

But then if one dont identifies with the mind i found the society as a whole dissapears, thats the first insight i got from psychadelic experience when starting to detach from the body..then left with mind of its own if one doesnt have it you just become a plant 😆 this topic puzzles me.It has to combine in the end its super complex matter my goal was to stop identifying with the body/mind then being in a position to evolve society but i was as naive as you 😂

Maybe this is the pathway for Enlightenment. Maybe that's the end goal of AI, to enlighten the whole population by dropping the thinking mind and killing the ego. 😍😍

[Nemra]

Use AI and then maybe form critiques. Observing people's usage of AI won't tell you much.

[NoSelfSelf]

8 minutes ago, Jannes said:

A bit simplistic I would say. Thats a bit like saying at a certain point society created gay people because they weren't there before in signifiant quantities. They were there before they just got demonized. Because of the different values that green has the problem you mentioned can be expressed in green. 

Wtf are you saying?' before the internet you had to be creative to worth something now everyone is worth something by being a fake phony giving you a cheap dopamine hit, because you are too fried to think beyond what you see so it created a generation of depressed weak, fragile kids also physically handicaped because they havent spent enough time outside for mind to grow.This is all new times problems that wasnt before, gay people were before the same amount...

6 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Maybe this is the pathway for Enlightenment. Maybe that's the end goal of AI, to enlighten the whole population by dropping the thinking mind and killing the ego. 😍😍

Everything is as the sage says 😁

Edited September 7 by NoSelfSelf

[Keryo Koffa]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

1. You're a neat Summarizer, Keryo AI, harmonize the forum for us!
2. Next quiz: Can AIs annoy the average human populus? 😛😛🙃😍❤️

1. Uhh, too much work, let me program a twin-reflective self-evolving AI to do it for me.
   But if I did that, it would turn into a Machine Elf and initiate the Singularity, removing the need...
2. Average human... human... what is a human? What is average? computing... the answer is: `̴̪̜̯̮́͗͑͝`̷̡̤̖̝͍͙͈͇̓̊̃́͠`̸̧̤̫̠͎͎̈́`̷̟̗͔̜̲̘͑̔`̸̡͔̆͊͒̄͋͊͜`̷̢̧̗̜͍̜̊͗̎̀̆̏̏͠`̴̡̞̻̦̬̥̣̀̈̿̌̃̿̉`̵̛̟͍͖͍̥̝̗̃̆́̓͜`̷̨̬̤̝̫̒͜ͅ`̶̢̛̠̲̖̲͐̉̓͐͝͝`̸̧̢̱̮̤͈͕͉̰̓̓̂̓́͘͝͝`̷̳̘͛̄̿`̵̡̧̡̦͕͌͘`̵̛̜̯̬̤̰̜̐̈́̌̃͆̕ͅ`̶̞̀͒̈́̚͝`̸̨͖̮̞̩̆̽`̴̨̨̛͎͎̤͎̿͂̈́͆̇ 

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Keryo Koffa said:

1. Uhh, too much work, let me program a twin-reflective self-evolving AI to do it for me.
   But if I did that, it would turn into a Machine Elf and initiate the Singularity, removing the need...
2. Average human... human... what is a human? What is average? computing... the answer is: `̴̪̜̯̮́͗͑͝`̷̡̤̖̝͍͙͈͇̓̊̃́͠`̸̧̤̫̠͎͎̈́`̷̟̗͔̜̲̘͑̔`̸̡͔̆͊͒̄͋͊͜`̷̢̧̗̜͍̜̊͗̎̀̆̏̏͠`̴̡̞̻̦̬̥̣̀̈̿̌̃̿̉`̵̛̟͍͖͍̥̝̗̃̆́̓͜`̷̨̬̤̝̫̒͜ͅ`̶̢̛̠̲̖̲͐̉̓͐͝͝`̸̧̢̱̮̤͈͕͉̰̓̓̂̓́͘͝͝`̷̳̘͛̄̿`̵̡̧̡̦͕͌͘`̵̛̜̯̬̤̰̜̐̈́̌̃͆̕ͅ`̶̞̀͒̈́̚͝`̸̨͖̮̞̩̆̽`̴̨̨̛͎͎̤͎̿͂̈́͆̇ 

No match for an AI. Issue resolved. Lock the thread.  AI wins. No need for human shit. The answer is.... unrecognizable. The Absolute is unknowable. Same difference. I rest my case. Hehe.

[Princess Arabia]

12 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Use AI and then maybe form critiques. Observing people's usage of AI won't tell you much.

I'm not in the business of critiquing much. I'd rather observe and ask questions to understand. Critiquing closes the mind, understanding opens it.

[Keryo Koffa]

9 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Before the net, we were creative. The current gen is made of dope-filled phony, screen-glue fried, vision-locked, depressed, fragile physically handicapped growth-stunted brain-rot weakling hermit kids.

That's a mouthful, condensing that into a sentence was an exercise, but I think you're exaggerating a little, maybe?

Edited September 7 by Keryo Koffa