Women are my only and only distraction from Enlightment

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

"The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Yes, I noticed that's what happens to certain types. It's funny the reactions the different types shows. This was when I first got into this stuff and was a like a kid in the candy store, now it's like second nature to me now and i just blend into whatever is happening and relate to them however. I thought everybody would wanna hear this stuff, but little did I know as with so many stories I've seen on here. It's a phase that I'm glad I'm all over with. It's quite interesting , though, the different reactions I observed during this phase. Made me even think, they all knew this deep, deep down but was in unconscious denial. 

Edited September 8 by Princess Arabia

[Emerald]

6 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I'd say that there is guarantee that your mind is lying you in an absolute level, since any explanation of infinity is false by definition. It may be true at a local, relative, cause/effect level, but at an absolute level the only explanation of infinity is that it is infinite.

That is, at an absolute level, saying that God creates limited experiences for a reason is like saying that Toyota cars break down rarely. It is something apparently true, on a relative level, but from an infinite point of view it means absolutely nothing. Then that God that does things could be a cosmic force, the universe, anything, but ultimately finite. Interesting, but not absolute.

I'm just sharing my subjective experiences and what I have come to believe and have chosen to exercise faith in based off of those experiences.

It is all that any human could ever hope to do, which can be a hard pill to swallow.

I must surrender to the fact that everything I've ever experienced could be totally illusory (including my awakenings)... but also to recognize that my subjective perspective is the only vector of reality that I have access to... and that it is the only compass that I can operate off of and exercise faith in that enables me to preserve my own sovereignty. 

And I am choosing to exercise faith in my imperfect subjective perspective as a valid wisdom compass for navigation. It is only then, that I can truly be a sovereign being standing in my own power.

Though of course, I could alway be wrong. And that is okay too.

[Emerald]

9 hours ago, gettoefl said:

@emerald do you have children or a partner might i ask if it's not too intrusive

Yes I have a partner, and 2 kids... a 13 yo and a 9 yo.

[Princess Arabia]

10 minutes ago, Emerald said:

And you can also find the infinite couched within the finite. For example, a couple months ago, my family and I went into a cafe. And my daughter was talking to me about something, and in that moment, there was this palpable feeling that that moment was everything happening in the universe. It's hard to explain.

Kind of like sometimes if I'm on here for a bit in one day, talking back and forth, different topics, different people, all in for about 2hrs straight or so, then.......log off to find myself alone in my room. I can't explain that feeling, it's like before I was all engaged and now all alone in a split second. The difference in feeling is unfathomable and hard to put in words. As if I'm all alone in the Universe, just my room exists and all that talk never happened....then boom, back to reality. All that happened in a split second. So, I kinda understand what you mean.

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, Emerald said:

I'm just sharing my subjective experiences and what I have come to believe and have chosen to exercise faith in based off of those experiences.

It is all that any human could ever hope to do, which can be a hard pill to swallow.

I must surrender to the fact that everything I've ever experienced could be totally illusory (including my awakenings)... but also to recognize that my subjective perspective is the only vector of reality that I have access to... and that it is the only compass that I can operate off of and exercise faith in that enables me to preserve my own sovereignty. 

And I am choosing to exercise faith in my imperfect subjective perspective as a valid wisdom compass for navigation. It is only then, that I can truly be a sovereign being standing in my own power.

Though of course, I could alway be wrong. And that is okay too.

What I meant is that ultimately, infinity is absolutely empty in the sense that it's impossible that god wants anything, like being an individual, or hidden anything. Could happen relatively, in a given moment in the infinity, but in the whole infinity no, there is no intention, no real change, no movement, just because it's infinite. Then, any perception that we could have, even it seems very true, is just relative,  not false but not absolute. The absolute is just total, is the essence, only the essence is real, and it's nothing that can be defined, just totality, existence.

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Submissive women are the most treacherous . They never truly love, they only look at their selfishness, although they say yes to everything. For sex they are great, but as a partner in your life, they are shit. Nobody is perfect .

Submissive men are too. Never the same character, they go in and out, they'll agree with everything but only if it makes them feel good and they're in their role at the time, they can get confusing and put you on the spot for doing something they didn't mind you doing before but now they're feeling dominant so it feels different to them. That's why I said before this dynamic is a complicated one. Brings new definition to the relationship phrase " It's complicated".

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Brings new definition to the relationship phrase " It's complicated".

Are long relationship with sex involved something that is not a hell in any single case in the history? I'm not sure

Edited September 8 by Breakingthewall

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

What I meant is that ultimately, infinity is absolutely empty in the sense that it's impossible that god wants anything, like being an individual, or hidden anything. Could happen relatively, in a given moment in the infinity, but in the whole infinity no, there is no intention, no real change, no movement, just because it's infinite. Then, any perception that we could have, even it seems very true, is just relative,  not false but not absolute. The absolute is just total, is the essence, only the essence is real, and it's nothing that can be defined, just totality, existence.

I like the way you phrased this. 

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Are relationship with sex involved something that is not a hell in any single case in the history? I'm not sure

Only when it's transactional, brief and non-personal. Ups and down to everything. 

[Davino]

36 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I tried that on some men and they watched a little bit, got scared, and told me to turn that shit off.  

That's the bad thing of being a woman in a relationship.

I've reflected so many many times how lucky I am to be into Awakening as a man in the relationship. If I was the woman and I dated a hard nosed guy he would roll his eyes every time I presented him the possibility of Awakening.

Luckily women are receptive, open and sensitive which allows for a better entry into Mysticism.

39 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

This was a couple years back, now I just listen to jazz music to entertain and give them a lap dance. Lol

Lmao you're not Princess Arabia

You're Queen Arabia

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Only when it's transactional, brief and non-persona

Exactly, that's the absolute truth 😅

[Princess Arabia]

7 minutes ago, Davino said:

Lmao you're not Princess Arabia

You're Queen Arabia

Goddess Arabia to some. Lmao. Or I should say Ebony Goddess.

Edited September 8 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Davino said:

Luckily women are receptive, open and sensitive which allows for a better entry into Mysticism.

Yes, that's the beauty of femininity. This is why some men love it so much and why I love being a woman. 

[Davino]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Goddess Arabia to some

Seeing your beloved as God is the most profound relationship advice I can give.

I stand by this statement 

[Forestluv]

@Javfly33 I think some of my experiences may overlap with yours. Not exactly the same, yet perhaps some key similarities.

About 5 years ago I was dating a woman that seemed pretty open about spirituality and actualization. We planned to take a trip to Peru together. I went to Peru a month earlier than her. I went to the mountains of Peru, lived with a tribe and did Ayahuasca ceremonies. There were profound shifts, awakenings, erasing of duality, connections to God/Truth/Oneness. . . My girlfriend now seemed to be in another world and we couldn't live in both worlds simultaneously. I did not want to return to that dualistic world with her. I didn't want to devolve from conscious states of Enlightenment. I could see all the sorts of things that would pull me back down. And I knew she was incapable of joining me. So I decided to be True - I called her and broke up. 

When I returned to the U.S. I started feeling desires to be in a relationship with a woman. There are really beautiful aspects to romantic relationships. And I really thought I would be able to maintain my transcended states while engaging in a relationship - it would be a new form of experience. Perhaps she and I could synergize, grow, create and expand. So I started with a relationship with someone with LOTS of chemistry. . .There were aspects of beauty, connection and magic that were so satisfying. Yet there was devolving back into ordinary things - dualities, ego, right and wrong, petty personality conflicts etc. After about a year we broke up and then I was able to see how much was lost since my Peru trip. It was as if I was exposed to Enlightenment and then got De-Enlightened and it sucked. 

After that, I dated very rarely because I could quickly see the price I would need to pay. What's frustrating is that the "two worlds" overlap. There are flashes of "Enlightment' within the relationship. Sometimes really profound - and that gives me hope. Yet it's never enough to overcome the whirlpool that pulls me back into the ordinary world of personalities, egos and petty crap. I haven't dated anyone for years. At times I really miss aspects of it.

So I may be able to relate somewhat, yet unfortunately I'm unable to provide a solution.

Edited September 8 by Forestluv

[Leo Gura]

@Forestluv That is because relationships are about survival, and spirituality is not. The more you intermingle survival into your spirituality the more corrupt it will get. Which is why the most spiritual people are monks who live in caves.

Edited September 8 by Leo Gura

[Davino]

@Forestluv I feel you brother

[fopylo]

@Leo Gura

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

That is because relationships are about survival, and spirituality is not. The more you intermingle survival into your spirituality the more corrupt it will get.

Yeah, relationships are about survival, but survival is also that brain of yours that is thinking and writing all of this stuff.

Isn't it the perfect combination - Survival & Consciousness?

Survival and consciousness... What comes first? Feels like the chicken and the egg...

I might be really dumb

[Davino]

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Despite sex being quite overrated, sexual programming is hard wired in the masculine psyche to levels I'm still astonished to discover. It's not going anywhere any time soon.

[Emerald]

10 hours ago, Davino said:

@Emerald Thanks for sharing. I've always wondered how highly conscious femenine Spirituality would look like. I recognise deeply the role that my humanity makes in the large scope of my living time, as a matter of fact I know that no transcendence is possible without a holistic embrace of my life as limited form. 

There's a lot to do in the embodied realms of existence, which can be tremendously divine and natural. Although I wound invite you to consider why this is an "or" "or" situation instead of an "and" "and" situation.

I've always had this crazy idea that you can do everything in life. It goes in pendulum and now maybe you are in the phase of profound presence and playing God's Game but that doesn't close the door to Infinite Awakenings, Infinite Truth, Infinite Love, Infinite Consciousness, Infinite Perfection, Infinite Self-Understanding, Infinite God...

So make me understand why it has been the case for you that playing the game has become the new spiritual meaning? And why you've decided to close the trascendental door?

The reason why is very straightforward. I genuinely don't prefer to transcend because I don't prefer how it is. 

And in my heart of hearts, I prefer to be embodied as this human and to forget the infinite to embrace innocence and unburden myself.

Also, it's a little like the difference between a person who enjoys playing video games versus a person who likes to deconstruct the console. 

Certainly, you could do both. But I'm not as interested in deconstructing the console as I am actually playing the game... though deconstructing the console here and there for the purpose of enriching the gameplay is definitely interesting to me.

So, it's just a preference. And you could have a preference for one, the other, or both... depending on what your life path is.

And what my Ayahuasca experiences have shown me is that I was created specifically as God's vacation from God to make the infinite existence manageable for that part of its consciousness... among tons of other things it does to be effortlessly present with and to feel the totality of the infinite suffering it must always be knowing, creating, loving, and experiencing forever and ever and at infinitely deep levels. 

And it is always encouraging me to be like a hobbit and to have fun and enjoy like I did when I was a child, as it created this life to give this point of its consciousness mercy from the infinite suffering. 

It even once brought me back into memories of when I was obsessed with Scooby Doo as a young child, and it wanted me to embrace that childlike spirit again.

It's like in the movie Citizen Kane where his last word was "Rosebud". (I won't spoil the ending the movie here, but it definitely relates to the theme of relinquishing power and embracing joy and simplicity)

Now, my supposition is that God splits off the parts of itself that are more Yin as these parts feel the pain and burdens of the everything-ness aspect of the infinite and then incarnates them into limited forms so that they can find mercy from the too-much-ness... but of course I'm not sure of this. It's just me putting 2 and 2 together to make sense of what I experienced.

So, the spiritual is really one and the same with the material. They're not separate.

And it is the same as any other human being's experience, only with the contrast of the infinite... which enriches the lived experience.