Women are my only and only distraction from Enlightment

[Keryo Koffa]

2 minutes ago, LambdaDelta said:

Basically how ego death works, you contract to zero which expands you to infinity

Aha! That's why science and maths forbids you to divide by 0! Social-Matrix EgoDefMech

[CARDOZZO]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Most guys here would love to find a girlfriend but struggle to make it happen.

And the journey to develop that skillset is very time-consuming, distracting, and unspiritual. That's what this whole thread is about.

Sure, it is a long hiring process.

Dating consciously is a matter of patience, mistakes, ups and downs.

Generally guys don't have these traits because they are horny like crazy.

When i am looking consciously to choose a girl, I focus on femininity, humor and adventure spirit. 

[Terell Kirby]

6 hours ago, Emerald said:

And a huge part of that has been about recognizing and accepting the limits to my ability to know... whilst also exercising faith in my own experiences of God consciousness and exercising faith in my own inner compass of my intuitions and insights.

Nice

[LambdaDelta]

7 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Aha! That's why science and maths forbids you to divide by 0! Social-Matrix EgoDefMech

But you can cause a buffer overflow by sending a payload of psychedelics 

[Breakingthewall]

15 hours ago, Emerald said:

 

 

14 hours ago, Emerald said:

There is no guarantee that my mind isn't lying to me. I

I'd say that there is guarantee that your mind is lying you in an absolute level, since any explanation of infinity is false by definition. It may be true at a local, relative, cause/effect level, but at an absolute level the only explanation of infinity is that it is infinite.

That is, at an absolute level, saying that God creates limited experiences for a reason is like saying that Toyota cars break down rarely. It is something apparently true, on a relative level, but from an infinite point of view it means absolutely nothing. Then that God that does things could be a cosmic force, the universe, anything, but ultimately finite. Interesting, but not absolute.

Edited September 8 by Breakingthewall

[CARDOZZO]

26 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

Yes! I also can’t relate to the dismissive approach to the illusion and the finite.  

If both dualities are one, then both are valued and even complementary. The existence as a human or in a finite form is not a God’s mistake.

The expansion and the awakening is incredibly important and doing it to some extent aids in living the illusion and the finite existence with more awareness, consciously, with more wisdom, joy, passion, and appreciation of life and beauty. The frame of the ego/illusion/story allow God to live through us and express itself through us, this is the reason we have been created by God in the first place.

We can’t really get rid of the illusion (at least without loosing sanity). We only can choose whether living it consciously or not. The difference is huge. 

The never ending expansion for the sake of expansion, while abandoning the earthly aspects of life, my life as a human, as an individual, and as an ego, feels not only unnecessary but impossible in human form, at some point one faces their limits and have to surrender.

The ultimate spiritual path, as I see it, is the balance between Yin and Yang.

If one values both and gives them the respect they deserve when they’re calling, this is perfect in my view. This is what I understand that you have done from your post.

There is a Hindu God who is both Yin and Yang, symbolizing the value of integrating both of the dualities and being ONE.

 

 

 

Are you brazillian?  

[Lyubov]

Javfly I would invite you to inquire deeper on how you’re living your life and why you believe women are a distraction to your spiritual growth and evolution. You may find women are some of the best teachers on life. You may find by idolizing or othering them then labeling that as a distraction is actually all you and within your control and will to resolve. I would stop labeling other people as distractions and not act as a victim. It’s impossible to be a victim and it’s impossible for anything to be a distraction unless you allow it to be. I would assume where you would have to focus is on your integrity and your belief system. Women are not the problem here.

Edited September 8 by Lyubov

[Salvijus]

4 hours ago, Someone here said:

@Javfly33 sex is the most overrated thing ever . Like you just cum and experience 9 seconds of a tingly sensation. 

Now what ?!

Nothing.

😂 Living up to Ramana maharishi picture I see. 

[Salvijus]

3 hours ago, Brittany said:

A man who is peaceful, blissful, is full inside, loves himself, feels one with everything around him, sees the divinity in everyone, etc. that is pursuing a girlfriend:

His journey won't feel like he is "gaining" something. He already feels complete, so there is nothing to gain.  It will just be another part of God to experience. He is dancing with divinity. She cannot make him "more" of anything. He identifies as nothing and isn't adding anything to his identity or self concept.

I would imagine for a guy like that. Girlfriend is just another friend. 

[Buck Edwards]

1 hour ago, Lyubov said:

Javfly I would invite you to inquire deeper on how you’re living your life and why you believe women are a distraction to your spiritual growth and evolution. You may find women are some of the best teachers on life. You may find by idolizing or othering them then labeling that as a distraction is actually all you and within your control and will to resolve. I would stop labeling other people as distractions and not act as a victim. It’s impossible to be a victim and it’s impossible for anything to be a distraction unless you allow it to be. I would assume where you would have to focus is on your integrity and your belief system. Women are not the problem here.

Totally agree. Don't know how others can't see it. Clear as day. 

[Schizophonia]

Enlightment =/= falling in depression.

Edited September 8 by Schizophonia

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

No, I’m Israeli.

Hence, I have ‘Apolitical member’ status because apparently I am “too self-biased” for speaking my truth about Israel and the IDF from my real life experience (which was heavily dismissed) and point of view, in response to people who know very little about Israel and demonize the shit out of it without any consequences ✨

I don't even notice that status. I only see your name and that beautiful deer looking like it's flying in the snow. I bet no one even cares.

[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, Brittany said:

I understand.

A man who is peaceful, blissful, is full inside, loves himself, feels one with everything around him, sees the divinity in everyone, etc. that is pursuing a girlfriend:

His journey won't feel like he is "gaining" something. He already feels complete, so there is nothing to gain.  It will just be another part of God to experience. He is dancing with divinity. She cannot make him "more" of anything. He identifies as nothing and isn't adding anything to his identity or self concept.

But a man who is neurotic, feels empty inside, doesn't like himself, is filled with judgements and comparisons, sees only separation, doesn't see the divinity in everyone, etc. that is pursuing a girlfriend:

His journey will feel like he is "gaining" or adding something to himself, increasing in some way, finally feeling complete. It won't be a dance of consciousness. But of gaining something to fill a hole. Becoming something. Something that is being added to his identity or self concept.

This forum is filled with men in the latter category. And that journey doesn't feel as good, and so dating is a terrible experience for them.

And where does monogamy fit into this? I would say more in the neurotic section

[Forestluv]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

any explanation of infinity is false by definition. It may be true at a local, relative, cause/effect level, but at an absolute level the only explanation of infinity is that it is infinite.

That is, at an absolute level, saying that God creates limited experiences for a reason is like saying that Toyota cars break down rarely. It is something apparently true, on a relative level, but from an infinite point of view it means absolutely nothing. Then that God that does things could be a cosmic force, the universe, anything, but ultimately finite. Interesting, but not absolute.

A juicy paradox:

If "any explanation of infinity is false", then the explanation you give of infinity is false.

The construct involves distinctions such as absolute vs. relative, infinite vs. finite and true vs. false. . . From one perspective there is insight and value, yet there are steps prior to the construct created. 

Consider: "at an absolute level the only explanation of infinity is that it is infinite.". . . The statement "infinite is infinite" is closer to source since it is an explanation without explanation. . . Then we take steps away. . . "That is, at an absolute level. . . ". . . now, distinctions and meanings are introduced to the blankness. If the mind holds those meanings as true, the blankness is no longer blank. There are now points. . . To have grounding, the mind relates to the point as if it is real and gives it stability. This allows for a structure to be built. Without the points of grounding, the mind melts back to liquid. I've spent thousands of hours watching the mind do this and I'm fascinated by the initial steps of creating distinctions, thoughts, beliefs, concepts, meanings. . . and how the mind relates to it as if it were real.

I'm not saying the idea quoted is right or wrong. My mind lives in a reality of true / false, partial truths and unlimited forms of 'what is' that can be created. . .

9 hours ago, Emerald said:

I have experienced infinite knowledge twice... and it is completely overwhelming. It showed this to me to help me remember that my path doesn't have to do with expansion of knowledge but rather to do with contraction of knowledge.

In fact, in my last Ayahuasca experience, I kept affirming "I am choosing to be limited" as I was cutting myself off from the infinite knowledge as God was showing me the burdens of the infinite on the shoulders of the finite.

Similarly, I've had a few experiences of infinite: one was completely overwhelming to my mind-body, two were peaceful to the mind-body. . .  My limited human form, Forest, can only embody a tiny fraction of what has been revealed.  This limitation can allow for great mystery and curiosity. Yet it also creates experiences of hardships. For example, there is knowing of infinite forms to render reality within mindspace. My limited mind is aware of this, yet my limited human mind-body only gets to render reality in one form - that which is. Right now, there are infinite ways to render reality, yet I only get one which includes: a sound I interpret as my neighbor's dog barking, a bodily sensation of being annoyed, memories of peaceful times before he and his dog moved in and thoughts whether I should buy an ultrasonic dog bark deterrent. The rendering of reality changes with time, yet at any given time I only get one form. After being shown unlimited, these types of limitations can be hardships to me.

[Breakingthewall]

10 minutes ago, Forestluv said:

Forest, can only embody a tiny fraction of what has been revealed. 

You can easily embody all the knowledge of the infinity, it's very simple: nothing means anything, existence exist, there are not limits. That's it. 

It may seem anticlimax, boring, lacking in salt, but no, it is absolute beauty

Edited September 8 by Breakingthewall

[Keryo Koffa]

Quick Latest Conversation Context Summary:

 Someone here: Sex is just a chemical reaction

 Salvijus: Your pic says it all!

 Brittany: When dating: Wholesome lightworkers > Energy vampires

 Ishanga: Anything else is a deal with the devil or a work contract

 CARDOZZO: Weeding out horny mofos from hq ones is a long process

 Salvijus: Guys like that are too enlightened for gfs

 Breakingthewall: Monogamy, anyone? Too neurotic I guess.\
 

 LambdaDelta: Psychs can throw you out of the loop.

 Breakingthewall: Everything is a lie. God needs no reasons to fuck around.

 Lila9: God ain't stupid. Yin & Yang both matter. Expansion without Experience is Void

 Forestluv: Then "your sentence is false" also. Infinity is fascinating...

 Breakingthewall: Stop yappin', nothing exists, over and out!
 

 CARDOZZO: Brazili?

 Lila9: Israeli, hence Apolitical Ban.

 Princess Arabia: All I see is a pretty deer.

 Lila9: Thanks, but I can't do politics

[gettoefl]

23 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You can easily embody all the knowledge of the infinity, it's very simple: nothing means anything, existence exist, there are not limits. That's it. 

It may seem anticlimax, boring, lacking in salt, but no, it is absolute beauty

Yes by your definition perhaps

You should see the woman I saw just walking down the street

Edited September 8 by gettoefl

[Princess Arabia]

12 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Quick Latest Conversation Context Summary:

 Someone here: Sex is just a chemical reaction

 Salvijus: Your pic says it all!

 Brittany: When dating: Wholesome lightworkers > Energy vampires

 Ishanga: Anything else is a deal with the devil or a work contract

 CARDOZZO: Weeding out horny mofos from hq ones is a long process

 Salvijus: Guys like that are too enlightened for gfs

 Breakingthewall: Monogamy, anyone? Too neurotic I guess.\
 

 LambdaDelta: Psychs can throw you out of the loop.

 Breakingthewall: Everything is a lie. God needs no reasons to fuck around.

 Lila9: God ain't stupid. Yin & Yang both matter. Expansion without Experience is Void

 Forestluv: Then "your sentence is false" also. Infinity is fascinating...

 Breakingthewall: Stop yappin', nothing exists, over and out!
 

 CARDOZZO: Brazili?

 Lila9: Israeli, hence Apolitical Ban.

 Princess Arabia: All I see is a pretty deer.

 Lila9: Thanks, but I can't do politics

lol. AI Keryo at work. @Breakingthewall's is pretty funny.

[Forestluv]

56 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You can easily embody all the knowledge of the infinity, it's very simple: nothing means anything, existence exist, there are not limits. That's it. 

It may seem anticlimax, boring, lacking in salt, but no, it is absolute beauty

That's an aspect I'm very familiar with. . . I tried to introduce another aspect which is difficult to articulate with language because any combination of words I use is interpreted in a way which excludes other ways.

I'm not disagreeing with the idea above. It is That within That. I'm trying to articulate there is a 'space prior' to the initial points created and that the mind uses points as grounding. Yet what I'm referring to would be incorrect within the space quoted. Someone would be correct to write: "No, no Forest . . . that is not what Breakingthewall is saying". . . This is why it's incredibly difficult for me to convey to some spaces. I don't have the ability to articulate multiple forms of rendering simultaneously. This is part of the human limitation hardship I live with, mentioned in an earlier post.

Edited September 8 by Forestluv

[Salvijus]

50 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

Quick Latest Conversation Context Summary:

 Someone here: Sex is just a chemical reaction

 Salvijus: Your pic says it all!

 Brittany: When dating: Wholesome lightworkers > Energy vampires

 Ishanga: Anything else is a deal with the devil or a work contract

 CARDOZZO: Weeding out horny mofos from hq ones is a long process

 Salvijus: Guys like that are too enlightened for gfs

 Breakingthewall: Monogamy, anyone? Too neurotic I guess.\
 

 LambdaDelta: Psychs can throw you out of the loop.

 Breakingthewall: Everything is a lie. God needs no reasons to fuck around.

 Lila9: God ain't stupid. Yin & Yang both matter. Expansion without Experience is Void

 Forestluv: Then "your sentence is false" also. Infinity is fascinating...

 Breakingthewall: Stop yappin', nothing exists, over and out!
 

 CARDOZZO: Brazili?

 Lila9: Israeli, hence Apolitical Ban.

 Princess Arabia: All I see is a pretty deer.

 Lila9: Thanks, but I can't do politics

Hehe